Welcome to Gaia! ::

Reply Room 304 ~ The Dir en grey Guild
Dir en grey, a boost for your intelligence? Goto Page: 1 2 [>] [»|]

Quick Reply

Enter both words below, separated by a space:

Can't read the text? Click here

Submit

Has anyone ever thought of you to be stupid because you listen to Dir en grey or metal?
Unfortunately, yes.
26%
 26%  [ 14 ]
Not that I recall.
30%
 30%  [ 16 ]
Who gives a damn about what they think?
42%
 42%  [ 22 ]
Total Votes : 52


staplegunman

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:23 pm


Well, not exactly. But just because you listen to Dir en grey doesn't mean you are stupid. Read this article:

MTV website
Mar 22 2007 5:13 PM EDT
Study Proves That Metalheads Aren't Boneheads
Research at British university disproves stereotype of metal fans as poor students.

By Chris Harris


If the ancient Greek philosopher Plato were alive today, would he be a Mastodon fan? Would Sigmund Freud have been into the work of Danzig? Might Mozart have been down with Lamb of God?

Perhaps, according to the findings of a recent study.

The research — conducted by Stuart Cadwallader and Jim Campbell of the National Academy for Gifted and Talented Youth at the University of Warwick in Coventry, England — shows a disproportionate number of students enrolled there listed heavy metal as their favorite kind of music.

As part of their research, Cadwallader and Campbell surveyed more than 1,000 students between ages 11 and 18. The school's student body of 120,000 ranks among the brightest 5 percent of youngsters in all of Britain, suggesting that metalheads aren't necessarily boneheads.

"There is a perception of gifted and talented students as being into classical music and spending a lot of time reading," said Cadwallader, a psychologist who presented the findings to the British Psychological Society on Wednesday. "I think that is an inaccurate stereotype. We are looking at a group with lower-than-average self-esteem that does not feel quite as well-adjusted. They feel more stressed out and turn to heavy metal as a way of relieving that stress."

Cadwallader further suggests that those who listen to metal often appreciate the "complex and sometimes political themes" contained within the music. "It has a tendency to worry adults a bit, but I think it's just a cathartic thing," he said. "It does not indicate problems."

Students were asked to describe their families, attitudes toward education, hobbies and media preferences. They were then asked to rank their favorite genres of music, and the researchers discovered that rock was the most popular form of music, closely followed by pop. The study unearthed differences between the types of music young people like and their attitudes: Those who dug metal seemed to have lower self-esteem, as well as "difficulties with friendships and family relationships."

Some of the students, according to the study, claimed to utilize metal to cope with the pressures that come with their intelligence level; the punishing sounds of heavy metal can help these students deal with their frustrations and anger.

"Perhaps the pressures associated with being gifted and talented can be temporarily forgotten with the aid of music," offered Cadwallader. "As one student suggests, perhaps gifted people may experience more pressure than their peers and they use the music to purge this negativity."

Cadwallader acknowledged that the findings challenge prior research about the types of people who'd be into, say, Ozzy Osbourne or Iron Maiden.

"There is literature that links heavy metal to poor academic performance and delinquency, but we found a group that contradicts that," he explained.

Still, it's rather hard to imagine Albert Einstein or Stephen Hawking rockin' out to Opeth.

Recommended listening for some of history's greatest minds:

» Mathematician Sofia Kovalevskaya: the Red Chord, the Dillinger Escape Plan
» Social philosopher Confucius: DragonForce, Dir en Grey
» Novelist Leo Tolstoy: Cannibal Corpse, Judas Priest
» Philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche: Necrophagist, Manowar
» Painter Leonardo da Vinci: Lacuna Coil, Ephel Duath
» Inventor and engineer Nikola Tesla: Strapping Young Lad, Killswitch Engage (the band Tesla is not metal!)
» Philosopher Immanuel Kant: Carcass, Gojira
» Astronomer Galileo Galilei: In Flames, Black Sabbath
» Physicist Marie Curie: Arch Enemy, Testament

For more heavy-metal goodness, check out the feature "The Greatest Metal Bands of All Time."






Taken from the MTV website. I should hope this study is the case seeing as I was in the top 3% (13th out of 544) of my graduating high school class and Dir en grey was my favorite band for almost all of high school. I think that this article brings up a good point. You can't judge someone's intelligence based upon what music they listen to. I also find it interesting that Dir en grey was compared to Confucious.

What say all of yeh?
PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:05 pm


Confucius say: Blood baby & sacrifice, oboeteiru no deshou?
Confucius say: Respect your elders, young radical foocha.

-Isel-


K A U L ii T Z

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:35 pm


OMG I told my friends this like, at the end of the last school year and they were all 'Yeeeeah suuuure'

HAHA!

Now I can prove it!

*copies and pastes*

ninja
PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:46 am


Liking Dir en grey just means you like Dir en grey. You're no smarter than anyone else over your taste in music.

dahctt


staplegunman

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 6:43 am


@Isel - LOL, but of course!

@dahctt - Well, as the study shows, by taking a poll of the smartest people, metal and rock are actually more popular among the smarter crowd than even pop. Now, just because you listen to metal doesn't mean you are smart, but it all goes to show that metal/rock is prefered by the smartest of brains we (the world) have.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:19 am


staplegunman
@Isel - LOL, but of course!

@dahctt - Well, as the study shows, by taking a poll of the smartest people, metal and rock are actually more popular among the smarter crowd than even pop. Now, just because you listen to metal doesn't mean you are smart, but it all goes to show that metal/rock is prefered by the smartest of brains we (the world) have.


But it's a fantastic excuse to go around saying you're smarter than everyone else XD

K A U L ii T Z


callmesunny

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:16 pm


Im~All~Ears
staplegunman
@Isel - LOL, but of course!

@dahctt - Well, as the study shows, by taking a poll of the smartest people, metal and rock are actually more popular among the smarter crowd than even pop. Now, just because you listen to metal doesn't mean you are smart, but it all goes to show that metal/rock is prefered by the smartest of brains we (the world) have.


But it's a fantastic excuse to go around saying you're smarter than everyone else XD
yeah it is

now I'm going to tell everyone I'm smart now

mrgreen
PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:04 pm


hmmm.... That's quite interesting.

Toki Bird

Tipsy Kitten


Crazy Kitten Smile

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:14 am


dahctt
Liking Dir en grey just means you like Dir en grey. You're no smarter than anyone else over your taste in music.

I agree.
But then again I'm not much of a metalhead. I'm sooooooo picky about my music.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:48 am


That's quite possibly the most retarded thing that I've ever heard, to theorize that you can judge someone's intelligence based on what music they listen to. Or that listening to any kind of music will make you smarter. As far as I can tell you don't learn any more about the things you're taught in school (not music related) by listening to music. The day Dir en grey teaches me calculus, or somehow gives me the capability to grasp its concepts, I might change my tone a little.

namida_no_chi


BillOddieIsHot

5,850 Points
  • Full closet 200
  • Conversationalist 100
  • Contributor 150
PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:23 pm


lol dir en grey coming round to your house to teach you calculus would be pretty funny! I think music is a taste and therefore makes you no more smarter for liking a certain style. People often say hip hop or whatever makes people join gangs and metal makes people worship satan rolleyes No idiots who bend into that stereotype do those things not fans of music.
Music is music its a prefrance, saying it makes you smarter is like saying your more intelligent for perfering chicken to cheese. Its all opinion.
Im with Namida no chi here peeps 3nodding as nice as it would be to be one of the smart crowd lol
PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:01 pm


namida_no_chi
That's quite possibly the most retarded thing that I've ever heard, to theorize that you can judge someone's intelligence based on what music they listen to. Or that listening to any kind of music will make you smarter. As far as I can tell you don't learn any more about the things you're taught in school (not music related) by listening to music. The day Dir en grey teaches me calculus, or somehow gives me the capability to grasp its concepts, I might change my tone a little.


It wasn't a theory to being able to judge someone's intelligence. It's a theory made to disprove a stereotype. They used metal as an example because metal/rock is the most popular genre, or so it says. It never said any type of music will make you smarter. Though, there is a theory that if you learn to play an instrument, you're increasing your IQ. But even that's not meant to give you subliminal messages on how to do Calculus. It gives you the ability to understand. xD

Ethereal Rapture

Aged Gaian

5,200 Points
  • Window Shopper 100
  • Gaian 50
  • Bunny Spotter 50

namida_no_chi

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:30 pm


Ethereal Rapture
namida_no_chi
That's quite possibly the most retarded thing that I've ever heard, to theorize that you can judge someone's intelligence based on what music they listen to. Or that listening to any kind of music will make you smarter. As far as I can tell you don't learn any more about the things you're taught in school (not music related) by listening to music. The day Dir en grey teaches me calculus, or somehow gives me the capability to grasp its concepts, I might change my tone a little.


It wasn't a theory to being able to judge someone's intelligence. It's a theory made to disprove a stereotype. They used metal as an example because metal/rock is the most popular genre, or so it says. It never said any type of music will make you smarter. Though, there is a theory that if you learn to play an instrument, you're increasing your IQ. But even that's not meant to give you subliminal messages on how to do Calculus. It gives you the ability to understand. xD

I was talking about the idea that someone could be more/less smart because of the music they listen to.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 2:41 pm


if i like them then dats all dat matters XDDD

aKuma_TsubaSa


LArcFangirl

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:22 pm


Interesting....

Okay, I'm considered to be pretty bright (contrary to poular belief, since I leave all brilliance aside when I post in forums, lol xD) And I think that the article makes a good point; they took their research data and came up with a conclusion, can't argue with the numbers. But they have actually mentioned the mistake they've made. They've mislabeled people, their stereotypes were wrong. Basically, they took a bunch of exceptionally bright people and came up with these results under the original assumption that only below average scoring teens listened to this kind of music, but what does that have to do with anything, really? These results only prove that it doesn't matter how smart you are, but it has to do with the amount of "pressure and stress", as the article puts it, that a person is under. This genre of music caters to a persons emotions and provides a way deal with them; it has nothing to do with how high their IQ is.

So, basically, this article disproved 2 stereotypes : 1., smart people like "sophisticated" music, and 2., metal is only for the below average human. It also revealed that metal had a fanbase that those BRILLIANT "Stuart Cadwallader and Jim Campbell of the National Academy for Gifted and Talented Youth at the University of Warwick in Coventry, England" didn't have a clue about. xP

Aren't they s-m-r-t? :3
Reply
Room 304 ~ The Dir en grey Guild

Goto Page: 1 2 [>] [»|]
 
Manage Your Items
Other Stuff
Get GCash
Offers
Get Items
More Items
Where Everyone Hangs Out
Other Community Areas
Virtual Spaces
Fun Stuff
Gaia's Games
Mini-Games
Play with GCash
Play with Platinum