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Dark_of_Niwa

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 12:30 pm


Ya a couple weeks ago I hit a spot on my arm(a vital point to be exact) and I kinda got sent into spasms...I am gonna make a long story short and just say that while I was in those spasms I wasn't concious but I wasn't inconcious.And I heard these wierd voices in my head,about 2 or 3 and they seemed to be arguing and there wasn't really anyone or anything that could make the sounds of voices around me at the time.

So could anyone possible tell me what it was?Was it just my mind?Or was it something else?

If a detailed description of the incedent is needed,I will provide.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:58 pm


There are quite a few pressure points in the body. When struck, they can interrupt normal blood flow (or make your body think your blood pressure is too high, and drop it suddenly) and cause you to black out. But as far as the "spasms" go, you'll need to describe exactly what happened. Was it seizure-like? Or catatonia? Or a blackout? Or was it just arm muscle spasms?

If you were blacked out, it makes you feel like s**t. I've only fainted a handful of times, but I know it can really ******** with your brain. Especailly when you have no idea what is going on. It could have just been your mind. It also could have been something else. I came to from one, and was shaking and crying uncontrollably. Another, I woke up angry and wanted to beat the s**t out of anyone who came near me. I don't remember anything happening while I was blacked out, but clearly something was messing with my emotions. It could have just been my brain hitting the power button and rebooting, causing release of weird-a** chemicals. Maybe you were just experiencing a more amplified version of this.

DrasBrisingr


Dark_of_Niwa

PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:17 pm


Ok,detailed explantaion a go-go.

So ya,I kinda pinched the skin between me and a doorknob when I tripped,the skin was on the flat part of my forearm(palm up) and I pinched about an inch of skin.
Then in less than 15 seconds I lost my vision,got dizzy,fell down into a chair,and I couldn't move,talk,see,or anything.All I heard were the wierd voiced.And as far as what I felt,it was like a bunch of freezing cold/burning hot needled kinda just drilling into me.
I snapped out of it like 10 second later,walked into the bathroom to wash my face of after that little episode;but the second I closed the door,I lost my vision instantley,fell down,and same stuff...Plus I was sliding all over the dirty floor...5 minutes later I snapped out and went to get a drink of water thinking it was finally over.(Every time I went somewhere it was instantley.)
I got a drink and then bam,3rd time.I hit my right eye when I fell if that matters.Same stuff,and the voices were louder.Snapped out of it and I just lied in my bed for about half an hour.Incase it matters,when I was laying there,my skin felt frezzing but my tempreture was 99.7.

Again,the whole time,I wasn't concious,seeing as I lacked mobility and other skills,but I wasn't unconcious seeing as I knew what was happening(kinda).

I guess you could say it was seizure like?

And your right,it does just f*** with your brain.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 6:03 pm


Well...while I don't really know about the voices, I do know that most of the other stuff is...not unusual. The "pins and needles" feeling is most likely the blood redistributing normaly through you veins and arteries. When you got up, walke to the bathroom, and fell down, that's because you stood up to quickly. You body (probably because it was still trying to...recalibrate) couldn't pump blood to your brain fast enough to accomadate for your sudden movement. All the blood dropped to your feet, depriving your brain of blood, which shut down again. That's what happens to me nearly every time I stand up. I lose vision, my limbs feel heavy, I feel lightheaded, and sometimes pass out.

I honestly don't know about the voices. Could you pick out anything about them? Or do you remember them that well? Maybe they sounded brusque or soft? Male or female? You said they were arguing, but do you know what they were saying?

DrasBrisingr


Dark_of_Niwa

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:08 pm


I couldn't tell what they were saying,I was to flustered trying to figure out when it would end.But it sounded like I was in a mall near the holidays.But there were only about 4 of them...Even if I did pay atention it was still to hard to tell what they were saying.They all sounded like typical male voices though.And they way they were arguing,makes me think maybe they weren't arguing,seeing as their voices weren't raised,they were just kinda...calm.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:13 pm


Maybe you started dreaming? I don't know. I can't account for the voices.

DrasBrisingr


Dark_of_Niwa

PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:19 pm


I am not sure if it matters now,but another symptom I remember is the room was spinning,but not like I was dizzy,more like my eyes were TURNING in their sockets...So my vision kinda turned 90 degrees-ish...
PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:53 pm


Your arm you say? Well, having had the s**t kicked out of me a lot from martial arts, and knowing a lot about pressure points as a result, there's only so many pressure points in the arm, and only one I could think of that'd cause such a thing.

Pressure points in the arm that I know of are mostly in the forearm and they would not stem blood flow to the brain in any way. They're generally used to inflict pain and to control the arm's movements but not to make someone pass out. However, the elbow (specifically the "funny bone" part) could be the culprit. Anyone here ever fallen off your bike as a kid and hit your funny bone only to feel very dizzy with strong feelings of nausea? Well, I have. I was sick and then passed out for a few seconds after a jolt to that. Otherwise, pressure points in the arm simply wouldn't divert enough blood.

But onto passing out. Having been KOed a lot in sparring, I'll tell you that your mind goes haywire during this time. One time after being floored by a shot to my temple, I was out for about 30 seconds during which time I thought I was at the beach. Blue sky, parasols, women in beach clothing all with a gentle dotted haze obscuring their finer details. It was as if I was viewing them through a kaliedoscope without the added colours. Then I awoke. Other times when I've been floored, I've heard gentle chatter, aircraft engines and one of my favourite songs.

So, in my conclusion? Those voices are your brain playing tricks on you as it wakes up.

Blind Guardian the 2nd

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