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squinty1989

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 3:14 am


I have been trying to learn by myself and you can say I did pretty good but I am not even at the beginners level!
I stopped learning it from last year...
So I have been wondering.. How hard is it?
How can we learn it in an easy way?
Do you need tutors or not?
Anything about Japanese is welcome here but it has to be the LANGUAGE and not the COUNTRY!
PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:20 pm


If you're coming from an English-speaking background, Japanese is a hard language. There will be people who tell you it's not hard, but chances are those people are in a bit of a sophomore stage in their language learning and they haven't yet come to the realization that they don't know nearly as much of the language as they thought.

The grammar, vocabulary, and writing system, among other things, are all completely different from English, so, even if you don't think these aspects are particularly difficult to comprehend, they do at least take a lot of time and effort to master.

As for learning it... I don't know if you could say there's an "easy way." I've been lucky enough to have had some very good courses in college that focused on speaking and was very thorough in teaching grammar, and I think that has been a tremendous help. I do think it's good to start practicing speaking and listening before reading and writing (that's what we do for our first language after all). Personally, I think having someone with whom you can practice speaking and who will correct you as necessary is fundamental in learning probably any language, so a tutor would be a good idea. Also, I imagine it's very rare for someone to obtain fluency without spending time in Japan itself.

Anyway, it's hard, but not impossible, and I happen to think it's a lot of fun to learn (and very satisfying when you can see your progress), so good luck!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:56 am


It depends on the knack you have for learning languages. If you can pick up Chinese easily, than Japanese should be a breeze. Though, honestly, it does get complicated after two years of college level courses. There's so many different levels to speak in and different ways of speaking (male vs. female), but overall, I think it's a fun language to learn. 3nodding
PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:59 pm


-okonomiyaki o konomu-
If you're coming from an English-speaking background, Japanese is a hard language. There will be people who tell you it's not hard, but chances are those people are in a bit of a sophomore stage in their language learning and they haven't yet come to the realization that they don't know nearly as much of the language as they thought.

The grammar, vocabulary, and writing system, among other things, are all completely different from English, so, even if you don't think these aspects are particularly difficult to comprehend, they do at least take a lot of time and effort to master.

As for learning it... I don't know if you could say there's an "easy way." I've been lucky enough to have had some very good courses in college that focused on speaking and was very thorough in teaching grammar, and I think that has been a tremendous help. I do think it's good to start practicing speaking and listening before reading and writing (that's what we do for our first language after all). Personally, I think having someone with whom you can practice speaking and who will correct you as necessary is fundamental in learning probably any language, so a tutor would be a good idea. Also, I imagine it's very rare for someone to obtain fluency without spending time in Japan itself.

Anyway, it's hard, but not impossible, and I happen to think it's a lot of fun to learn (and very satisfying when you can see your progress), so good luck!

I have been trying to speak and listen only for like 2 or 3 years! sweatdrop
I have no tutor and I don't have time for 1.
I am in college now so I stopped. But still am thinking about learning it.. But when?!
I think Japanese is not that hard if you work hard for it!
The writing will be hard at first but you will get into it in no time!
And I come from an Arabic culture but can speak English really well.
I think everyone thinks Arabic is hard but I think Japanese is the hardest language and the best ever!

squinty1989


squinty1989

PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:03 am


Kita Cloud
It depends on the knack you have for learning languages. If you can pick up Chinese easily, than Japanese should be a breeze. Though, honestly, it does get complicated after two years of college level courses. There's so many different levels to speak in and different ways of speaking (male vs. female), but overall, I think it's a fun language to learn. 3nodding

What does Chinese has to do with Japanese?
It is like totally a different language!
I think Japanese has to be hard since there are 3 ways of writing, must learn all of them and speak them fluently or somewhere near fluently. (since everyones accent is different and can not be made to speak Japanese fluently)
But if I start studying it again I will try my best in talking and listening! 3nodding
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:05 pm


squinty1989
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It depends on the knack you have for learning languages. If you can pick up Chinese easily, than Japanese should be a breeze. Though, honestly, it does get complicated after two years of college level courses. There's so many different levels to speak in and different ways of speaking (male vs. female), but overall, I think it's a fun language to learn. 3nodding

What does Chinese has to do with Japanese?
It is like totally a different language!
I think Japanese has to be hard since there are 3 ways of writing, must learn all of them and speak them fluently or somewhere near fluently. (since everyones accent is different and can not be made to speak Japanese fluently)
But if I start studying it again I will try my best in talking and listening! 3nodding

The Japanese take their main writing system (kanji) from China. Some of their culture even mirrors that of the Chinese.
Another reason I mentioned Chinese is because, to native English speakers, it is the hardest language to learn due to the intonations and fluctuations. They also have different forms of speaking as well (Mandarin vs. Cantonese) . Sorry if my analogy confused you.

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squinty1989

PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 11:14 am


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It depends on the knack you have for learning languages. If you can pick up Chinese easily, than Japanese should be a breeze. Though, honestly, it does get complicated after two years of college level courses. There's so many different levels to speak in and different ways of speaking (male vs. female), but overall, I think it's a fun language to learn. 3nodding

What does Chinese has to do with Japanese?
It is like totally a different language!
I think Japanese has to be hard since there are 3 ways of writing, must learn all of them and speak them fluently or somewhere near fluently. (since everyones accent is different and can not be made to speak Japanese fluently)
But if I start studying it again I will try my best in talking and listening! 3nodding

The Japanese take their main writing system (kanji) from China. Some of their culture even mirrors that of the Chinese.
Another reason I mentioned Chinese is because, to native English speakers, it is the hardest language to learn due to the intonations and fluctuations. They also have different forms of speaking as well (Mandarin vs. Cantonese) . Sorry if my analogy confused you.

Well since I have friends from China I understood what you said and I think you are right! 3nodding
Their language is hard but you can learn it and nothing is impossible! 3nodding
PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:28 pm


When the going gets tough, I think of Japanese like this: It could be much harder.

For instance, Japanese takes a tons of words from English and give it a Japanese pronunciation. So all you're really doing is learning how to spell those words differently. So, yay! Easy speaking vocab!

And it may not be based on Latin or Greek, but Japanese can be learned by anyone. Most people just seem to give up after they hit the hundred or so Kanji mark. xD

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:09 am


its easy of u focus
PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:31 am


i leanred a few japanese phrases when i was young, would it be easier for me to learn japanese if i know those phrases

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:02 pm


Like what I said in one of the threads here... it doesn't matter HOW you learn it... what matters is HOW MUCH PASSION you have for learning it. Difficulty level varies from person to person. It depends on your interest level. If you are really interested and you are determined to learn it, then it will not be difficult. Really... when you love what you're doing, its never difficult.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:26 pm


I love what I'm doing and that's learning Japanese, studying the culture etc.
but it still is difficult for me, although I don't really know why because I love it!
but mostly it's about speaking in Japanese, I can do that but when I get nervous I'm done for it. So on my exam.. >.<

but to come at what the master kitcat said above me, I'm really interested, I love it, I study it with passion (I even enjoyed learning my kanji today) but it keeps difficult for me ^^;

Sifri


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:56 pm


I come from a Pidgin/Japanese/English speaking background. When I was young, I caught on to some of the words, the stupid one's at least and still remember them now. It's easier to learn when you're younger, but it probably isn't the hardest language to learn.

I mean, it's confusing, but not totally hard.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:00 pm


wink Is Japanese difficult? hmmm. That's a matter of opinion.
There are people [I usually group myself in there] who are just really adept with languages, and so no language is too difficult to learn. But for every one of us, there are maybe 1000 others who find any language other than their native to be entirely impossible... sweatdrop

However! For those with determination- nothing is impossible! If you really want to do something you can do it- regardless of natural talent/skill. It's all about how bad you want to know. 3nodding

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:24 pm


Japanese can be a very hard language to learn, from the viewpoint of someone who speaks english. I mean, Japanese is so different! Three different types of writing, one of which has thousands of characters! Plus there's a different sentence structure and all these weird particles to learn! Don't even get me started with levels of politeness!

Of course, if you stay optimistic, anything can seem easy. wink And although attitude has a large part to do with it, I think that the way you approach it, and also money, are factors. Self-teaching yourself with a book that costs $30 probably isn't as good as taking a Japanese course that costs hundreds of dollars. confused Before you start to learn Japanese, you should understand that it requires time, desire, perseverance, and some money, too.
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