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PhaedraMcSpiffy

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:13 pm


The Quiet Campaign Against Birth Control via The Baltimore Sun

Interesting little article by Christina Page, author of How The Pro-Choice Movement Saved America. Shows some interesting facts about a few specific republican candidates (which we may want to add to the election info.) and talks about the language these candidates use that can be recognized as being anit-contraception.

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One code phrase is: "I fought to define life as beginning at conception rather than at the time of implantation." The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists defines pregnancy as starting at implantation, the first moment a pregnancy can be known. Anti-abortion advocates want pregnancy to start at the unknown moment sperm and egg meet: fertilization. They'd also like you to believe, despite evidence to the contrary, that the birth control pill prevents that fertilized egg from implanting in the womb.


Mr. Romney's code, deciphered, meant, "I, like you, hope to reclassify the most commonly used forms of contraceptives as abortions." In fact, he told the crowd, he already had some practice redefining contraception: "I vetoed a so-called emergency contraception bill that gave young girls abortive drugs without prescription or parental consent."

No matter that emergency contraception has the same mode of action as the birth control pill and every other hormonal method of birth control. To the anti-abortion movement, contraception is the ultimate corruptor. And so this year, the unspoken rule for candidates seeking the support of anti-abortion groups is that they must offer proof they're anti-contraception too.


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Mr. McCain reports that his adviser on sexual-health matters is Sen. Tom Coburn, Republican of Oklahoma, who leads campaigns claiming condoms are unsafe and opposing emergency contraception.


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Another presidential candidate, Rep. Tom Tancredo, like Mr. Romney, has ventured far into the "contraception-is-abortion" territory. According to Mr. Tancredo, a Colorado Republican, emergency contraception "cheapens human life and simply uses a woman's body to dispose of the child instead of a doctor." By the same logic, so do the birth control pill, the contraceptive patch, the IUD, the NuvaRing, and the Depo-Provera shot - which, it's worth noting, together account for 40 percent of the birth control American women use.


Something new I learned:
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For now, the candidates vying for the Right to Life endorsement are doing their best to avoid directly answering mainstream voters' simple questions on the subject, such as, "Do you support couples having access to safe and effective birth control options, including emergency contraception?" Considering that even 80 percent of self-described "pro-life" voters and a majority of Republican voters strongly support contraception, it's no wonder why.


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Reassessing Sexual Politics from Newsweek by Eleanor Clift.

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There are more debates ahead, and it’s useless to keep berating Romney about his conversion from pro-choice to pro-life. We know where he and the other Republican candidates stand on abortion. With the exception of Rudy Giuliani, they want Roe v. Wade overturned. They’ve gone further than George W. Bush did in 2000, when he said, as a candidate, that the climate didn’t exist for overturning Roe, that you have to win hearts and minds first. A more useful line of questioning would be to ask where Romney and the other Republicans stand on family planning and birth control.


MISTAKE: Giuliani DID say that it would be alright to reverse Roe vs. Wade.

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Family planning is an issue Republicans generally like to avoid because it threatens the coalition between economic conservatives and the religious right. Business types tend to be live-and-let-live, while a segment of social conservatives oppose birth control with almost the same fervor they oppose abortion.


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Family planning is such an under-the-radar issue for Republicans that Nancy Keenan, president of NARAL Pro-Choice America, says the Right to Life organization doesn’t advertise a birth-control position. “But you find in that movement—and they’ve become much more assertive about it—if you use birth control, you are stopping a life and that’s not acceptable,” she says. Listen to right-wing talk radio and you’ll hear how making birth control available or teaching sex-ed in public schools leads to sex. That's an argument equivalent to believing that putting air bags in cars causes accidents, says Keenan.


(Bolded for inducing smiles.)

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Instead of hammering away at the candidates about abortion, Keenan suggests a set of questions far more revealing: do you think it’s OK for a pharmacy to refuse to fill a woman’s prescription for birth-control pills based on the personal views of the pharmacist? Should hospital emergency rooms be allowed to withhold information from a rape victim about the morning-after pill, which can prevent a pregnancy if it’s taken soon enough after the assault? Do you support age-appropriate sex education (with “age-appropriate” the key phrase as to when it’s time to shelve the stork)?
PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:21 pm


My dad's going to vote in the Republican primaries.. and while he isn't exactly pro-choice (he's not going to vote against abortion, but he would if he thought a rape exception would be enforceable. He knows it isn't) he's VERY pro-contraception. Maybe I can use this to get him to vote for Guiliani in the primaries.

RoseRose


[Ernie]

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:27 pm


I have to wonder where that 80% is in all of this. I know a lot of the lifers on Gaia completely support contraception access, but it seems all of the ones featured in the media and in office are the crazies who think available contraception will make women "promiscuous".
PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:15 pm


Um, some birth control actually does prevent implantation.....same with EC.... *blink* so...wtf?

"The hormones in combination and progestin-only pills also thin the lining of the uterus. In theory, this could prevent pregnancy by interfering with implantation of a fertilized egg."

PP goes on to say that there is no scientific evidence that this occurs, but how the hell would it be monitored anyway?

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PhaedraMcSpiffy

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:27 am


I've been confused about the same thing. I think EC and Birth Control do prevent implantation. They do not cause an abortion because the medical definition of pregnancy begins at implantation, but they do cause a fertilized egg (Which, to lifers, is where life begins and therefore when pregnancy should begin.) to not implant, and therefore die. I don't know why certain pro-choice groups have been trying to say or imply that this isn't the case. Maybe I've been misreading?

RoseRose, Giuliani's really not all that pro-choice. He said it would be alright to reverse Roe vs. Wade. ....He's still the best republican candidate on choice, though. -_-
PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:38 am


"Abstinence-only" is already too far.

Okay, so a lot of lifers are fine with birth control. Brilliant. How can we get THEM into office and get the ones who aren't OUT? We can't.

Also, hormonal BC DOES prevent implantation, because as has been said, in thins the womb lining so it WON'T receive an egg. I'm almost positive it did with me, which I'm glad about. There are three or four times I could've potentially fertilised an egg but either didn't, or it didn't implant.

It's still not the definition of an abortion, though. Plenty of eggs don't implant perfectly naturally. Why would having the non-implantation as a back-up be any worse?

EC definitely does that, but it's like a large dose of BC from what I've heard. Kinda forces the womb lining to reduce or something and helps prevent implantation.

Gah. Being anti-abortion I can almost understand (although I doubt I ever will be) but being anti-contraception? That's just crazy.

Fran Salaska


RoseRose

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:44 am


PhaedraMcSpiffy

RoseRose, Giuliani's really not all that pro-choice. He said it would be alright to reverse Roe vs. Wade. ....He's still the best republican candidate on choice, though. -_-


When did he say that? Last I heard, he was the only Republican NOT willing to overturn Roe!
PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:49 am


RoseRose
PhaedraMcSpiffy

RoseRose, Giuliani's really not all that pro-choice. He said it would be alright to reverse Roe vs. Wade. ....He's still the best republican candidate on choice, though. -_-


When did he say that? Last I heard, he was the only Republican NOT willing to overturn Roe!


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Rudy Giuliani

* Allowing choice keeps government out of people's lives. (May 2007)
* Seek bipartisan ways to reduce abortion & increase adoption. (May 2007)
* Giuliani donated to Planned Parenthood throughout 1990s. (May 2007)
* Ok to repeal Roe v. Wade, but ok to view it as precedent too. (May 2007)
* Allow states to fund or not fund abortion. (May 2007)
* Encourage adoptions; ban partial-birth abortion. (May 2007)
* Embryonic stem cell research ok if limited properly. (May 2007)
* FactCheck: Encouraged adoptions; but over-stated results. (May 2007)
* Pro-choice; no ban on partial-birth abortions. (Dec 1999)


Rudy Guiliani on Abortion (1999)

“I’m pro-choice. I’m pro-gay rights,” Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. “No, I have not supported that, and I don’t see my position on that changing,” he responded.


Rudy Guiliani on abortion (2007)

Abortion is a very, very difficult issue of conscience for many, many people. In my case, I hate abortion. I would encourage someone to not take that option. When I was mayor of New York City, I encouraged adoptions. Adoptions went up 65%. Abortions went down 16%. I support the ban on partial-birth abortion. I support the Hyde amendment. But ultimately, I think when you come down to that choice, you have to respect a woman's right to make that choice differently than my conscience.



Taken from Candidates on Abortion thread, emphasis mine.

Fran Salaska


RoseRose

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:59 am


Hmmm....

I'd say he's pro-choice (probably pro-life personal) and trying to court the vote of the ultra-conservative. That's what his doubletalk says to me.
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