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 Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:29 pm
I've been a Pesco-Ovo-Lacto-Vegetarian for 5 years now. Less than a week ago I decided to finally make the change to veganism. But I've been craving dairy like CRAZY! I want grilled cheese, pizza, lasognia, and so on. Not to mention I miss milk chocolate...
I know being vegan pretty much takes out a whole portion of junk foods and fatty foods out of my diet, which is healthier for me. But my parents dont buy all the fruits and veggies I really need so I'm limited on just a little. So I've found myself not eating much.
I told myself and my parents before "If being vegan endangers my health I will go back to being Vegetarian" but now I'm just finding it hard to last without cheese.
Any advice?
If I do find myself going back to vegetarianism, I'll probably limit my dairy intake and be 100% sure that there aren't animal enzymes in my cheese D:
If I do decide to eat cheese again, I'll probably retry the transition to veganism again later when I'm living on my own and having the money to buy my own groceries.
I will say that making this transition from Vegetarianism to Veganism [with the acception of honey]/ Strict Vegetarianism has been the HARDEST change I've ever made, so much harder then when I went from being an omnivore to vegetarian.
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:22 pm
Will you find me a blue rose? I'm sorry to say I can't help you because I don't play on going vegan any time soon. I don't think I could go through with such a big change. I congradulate you. And I wish you luck!
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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:57 pm
Don't cut it all out all at once! Take a little at a time. One week, stop eating fish. Next week, start taking out eggs. Then start taking out dairy, replacing it with the fake stuff! Replace anything with eggs and dairy with vegan alternatives.
Don't force it on yourself all at once! Making small changes makes it much easier! Like, if you would normally eat ice cream for dessert, make it soy ice cream! Scrambled eggs for breakfast becomes tofu scramble. Continue making minor changes and take everything one meal at a time until you reach a comfortable place biggrin
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:22 am
I disagree with Strawberry Lolita Doll. While weaning yourself off animal products is goo din theory, it is very difficult to make work.
You start to view the few animal products you do eat as a "special treat" for having tried to hard. That gives those products value and power over you, making it more difficult to give them up. I strongly suggest cold turkey!
And as for replacement products, I would suggest you wait one month before thinking about soy cheese. It does not taste like real cheese, and until you give your taste buds one month to change, you will just be frustrated and disappointed by them. So just pick recipes that do not require cheese.
Cheese actually contains very high concentrations of casomorphines, a chemical compound in milk that keeps the baby cow coming back to it's mother to eat, and is chemically similar to morphine. That is why people say they are "addicted" to cheese; they actually are!
You just need to give your body space from that, and time to get over your addiction. Once you get past it, cheese will seem to be a very "heavy" food, and the thought will likely make you a little sick.
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:33 pm
Will you find me a blue rose? I've never heard the addicted to cheese thing before. I'm probably addicted. You learn something new every day. To bad school can't be like that.
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:16 pm
Yellow Journalism I disagree with Strawberry Lolita Doll. While weaning yourself off animal products is goo din theory, it is very difficult to make work.
You start to view the few animal products you do eat as a "special treat" for having tried to hard. That gives those products value and power over you, making it more difficult to give them up. I strongly suggest cold turkey!
And as for replacement products, I would suggest you wait one month before thinking about soy cheese. It does not taste like real cheese, and until you give your taste buds one month to change, you will just be frustrated and disappointed by them. So just pick recipes that do not require cheese.
Cheese actually contains very high concentrations of casomorphines, a chemical compound in milk that keeps the baby cow coming back to it's mother to eat, and is chemically similar to morphine. That is why people say they are "addicted" to cheese; they actually are!
You just need to give your body space from that, and time to get over your addiction. Once you get past it, cheese will seem to be a very "heavy" food, and the thought will likely make you a little sick.
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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:33 am
That 'casomorphine' fact is interesting. I used to be addicted to cheese, I think. It was definately the food I craved the most after going vegan.
As for going vegan, I found it best to just go cold tofu, and give up everything at once. When going vegan, it may be good to stock up on lots of 'normal' junk foods that happen to be vegan (chips, vanilla creme cookies, etc.), so you can munch on those when you start to crave a non-vegan food.
Also, if you feel you're going to cave, then remind yourself why you decided to go vegan. Watch the music video for Rise Against's song "Ready to Fall", look at pictures of animals in factory farms, read a Peter Singer book on animal rights, listen to Propagahndi's songs "Nailing Desecrates to the Wall" or "Apparently I'm a PC Facist". Do ANYTHING that will remind you of WHY you decided to go vegan, and why consuming animal products is an act of brutality.
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:38 pm
cold tofu, lol.
well youre probably addicted to cheese.
there are non dairy cheese products in stores, theyre pretty good too.
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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:10 pm
Once you start trying to change your diet habits to not include cheese, you suddenly feel like every meal is missing something without cheese. A burger or a veggie patty isn't the same, tofurky sandwiches are bland, etc. The thing I am doing to help wean myself off cheese is to convince my tastebuds that cheese doesn't taste like anything. Think about it. How many times do you eat a sandwich of any kind and REALLY taste the cheese? (Besides grilled cheeses....) Add other things to your food in place of cheese and you will get over it soon enough!
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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:21 pm
I probably will never give up cheese because I use it as that filler for my food, some things aren't the same and just lacks taste because there isn't any cheese gonk
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:11 pm
Just switch up the cheese you'd normally use in everyday dishes with some soy cheese?
They have some decent brands now. Personal preferences play a big part though. It's food.
On pastas and things, you can toast pine nuts and sprinkle them on top. They're damn tasty
and provide a nice texture. They're also healthy, full of the good kind of fat, unlike cheese.
Because even if you get over a 'cheese addiction', your body will still crave fats in food.
The only thing I am sad about in regards to cheese is fancy cheese tastings.
There is just so much involved in the process of making specialty cheeses.
But then I remember what it is made out of
and I don't miss it so much anymore.
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:26 pm
I have never found a soy cheese that I like. I make a sesame cheese myself.
1 cup raw tahini
1/4 to 1/3 cup fresh lemon juice
3 to 5 cloves garlic, finely chopped or smooshed
Salt to taste
Mix all with a fork until tahini stiffens.
This helped me get over dairy cheese. I can make so many different things with it...
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:43 am
I definitely think cheese is addictive. I stopped eating meat with almost no problems at all, i can only recall wanting it once, 2 or 3 days after i decided to go vegetarian. But the choice to go vegan was alot harder on me, not only because everything seems to have some form of dairy in it, but also because I still WANTED to eat cheese really, really bad. I happen to think that it really is better to go cold turkey....the thing about weening yourself off a little at a time is that you're still submitting to that craving, and it's a lo easier to slip up. like when your friends order a cheesy awesome pizza and you tell yourself "one little slice won't hurt since I'm still drinking milk anyway," and then you're right back where you started.
As for the prents not buying enough fresh fruit and veggies...you know, that's the problem with the US (assuming you're in the US...). You can't really raise a healthy family without these things. I know people think it costs more, but it only costs more if you're still buying junk. I actually spend less now as a vegan than I did as a vegetarian (or a meat eater, for that matter) because I'm not buying all those pre-packaged boxed items, and none of the dairy that I used to love so much.
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:34 pm
Actually, it is literally an addiction. Casein, which is in all mammalian milk, turns into casomorphin. It's an addiction which is good for baby mammals, to compel them to fed as they should. Weaning, however, is a hard time sometimes...
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Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:46 pm
VegPanda I've been a Pesco-Ovo-Lacto-Vegetarian for 5 years now. Less than a week ago I decided to finally make the change to veganism. But I've been craving dairy like CRAZY! I want grilled cheese, pizza, lasognia, and so on. Not to mention I miss milk chocolate... I know being vegan pretty much takes out a whole portion of junk foods and fatty foods out of my diet, which is healthier for me. But my parents dont buy all the fruits and veggies I really need so I'm limited on just a little. So I've found myself not eating much. I told myself and my parents before "If being vegan endangers my health I will go back to being Vegetarian" but now I'm just finding it hard to last without cheese. Any advice? If I do find myself going back to vegetarianism, I'll probably limit my dairy intake and be 100% sure that there aren't animal enzymes in my cheese D: If I do decide to eat cheese again, I'll probably retry the transition to veganism again later when I'm living on my own and having the money to buy my own groceries. I will say that making this transition from Vegetarianism to Veganism [with the acception of honey]/ Strict Vegetarianism has been the HARDEST change I've ever made, so much harder then when I went from being an omnivore to vegetarian.tofu, soymilk, etc. are great subs ;D
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