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 Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:59 pm
I just read this; it was linked in the news on my Yahoo! page.
Abortion pills don`t bring risks.
I really can't think of anything to say other than yay. whee
What do you guys think?
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:13 pm
I will never reccomend the abortion pill to somebody.. but that's probably because of what happened to me and I just think that there's a greater room for error and fatal miscalculation involved.
HOWEVER-- I'm VERY VERY happy to see that there isn't a risk associated with abortion pills. I get tired of reading and hearing the tripe about how my fertility has been compromised by having an abortion, oh noes! rolleyes
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:56 am
Sweet!
But they have to be really really carefull about who they prescribe the abortion pill to right? Because if they dont horrible things can happen.
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:53 am
caffinated_tulip Sweet! But they have to be really really carefull about who they prescribe the abortion pill to right? Because if they dont horrible things can happen. Yup.. there's a long list of factors that indicate that a woman is not a good candidate for a pill. Some of those factors require blood work, etc. My nurse midwife was hasty in giving me the pill and thus I was hospitalized due to her negligence. S'why I warn people to use caution regarding the pill!
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:06 am
Lady Adriata I will never reccomend the abortion pill to somebody.. but that's probably because of what happened to me and I just think that there's a greater room for error and fatal miscalculation involved. HOWEVER-- I'm VERY VERY happy to see that there isn't a risk associated with abortion pills. I get tired of reading and hearing the tripe about how my fertility has been compromised by having an abortion, oh noes! rolleyes Honestly, if abortion really did make you infertile... I'd definately go get knocked up and have one. It would be quicker, easier, and require less begging to a doctor to get sterilized before the age of 35 and 2 kids.
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:32 am
I agree with Talon.
So many people struggle to find doctors to perform their tubal ligations, I'd rather just get pregnant and abort to become infertile. Much simpler.
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:51 am
Much simpler but there are some of us who do want to get pregnant.. just not right now. xd
In a better world they'd have different rules on who can get a tubal ligation. As they are now I think they're retarded (the rules) and it's denying plenty of good candidates with a means to protect themselves.
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:16 pm
I just read that in the paper, today.
Would this count as healthcare or something in a Medical Theraputics class? If so, I just found my article to summarize.
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:21 pm
Lady Adriata Much simpler but there are some of us who do want to get pregnant.. just not right now. xd In a better world they'd have different rules on who can get a tubal ligation. As they are now I think they're retarded (the rules) and it's denying plenty of good candidates with a means to protect themselves. Yeah, but the really ******** up thing is that there are no rules. There are no medical guidelines stating a woman has to be over 35, and have 2+ kids. Legally, you can get a tubal from the age of 18. It's the doctor's personal morals which stand in the way of so many women, and having a tubal.
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:02 pm
MipsyKitten Lady Adriata Much simpler but there are some of us who do want to get pregnant.. just not right now. xd In a better world they'd have different rules on who can get a tubal ligation. As they are now I think they're retarded (the rules) and it's denying plenty of good candidates with a means to protect themselves. Yeah, but the really ******** up thing is that there are no rules. There are no medical guidelines stating a woman has to be over 35, and have 2+ kids. Legally, you can get a tubal from the age of 18. It's the doctor's personal morals which stand in the way of so many women, and having a tubal. Really? That is truly ******** up. It's like the doctor's deciding for the woman. -_- How many abortions could be avoided yearly too if they did more tubal ligations?
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:43 pm
Lady Adriata MipsyKitten Lady Adriata Much simpler but there are some of us who do want to get pregnant.. just not right now. xd In a better world they'd have different rules on who can get a tubal ligation. As they are now I think they're retarded (the rules) and it's denying plenty of good candidates with a means to protect themselves. Yeah, but the really ******** up thing is that there are no rules. There are no medical guidelines stating a woman has to be over 35, and have 2+ kids. Legally, you can get a tubal from the age of 18. It's the doctor's personal morals which stand in the way of so many women, and having a tubal. Really? That is truly ******** up. It's like the doctor's deciding for the woman. -_- How many abortions could be avoided yearly too if they did more tubal ligations? Yeah, but think of how many lawsuits would be created? As much as childfree people hate to hear it - many women do change their mind about children... in particular the fifteen to twenty something crowd. If a doctor gives a tubal to an impulsive 18 year old woman who only thinks she's childfree, but isn't, and years later she wants a child she can successfully sue him for not having the foresight to know she, as an 18 year old young woman, may change her mind. I'm fully in support of waivers of liability if that's what it takes to get doctors to do tubals and avoid lawsuits from those that don't really know what they want in their lives.
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:22 pm
Talon-chan Lady Adriata MipsyKitten Lady Adriata Much simpler but there are some of us who do want to get pregnant.. just not right now. xd In a better world they'd have different rules on who can get a tubal ligation. As they are now I think they're retarded (the rules) and it's denying plenty of good candidates with a means to protect themselves. Yeah, but the really ******** up thing is that there are no rules. There are no medical guidelines stating a woman has to be over 35, and have 2+ kids. Legally, you can get a tubal from the age of 18. It's the doctor's personal morals which stand in the way of so many women, and having a tubal. Really? That is truly ******** up. It's like the doctor's deciding for the woman. -_- How many abortions could be avoided yearly too if they did more tubal ligations? Yeah, but think of how many lawsuits would be created? As much as childfree people hate to hear it - many women do change their mind about children... in particular the fifteen to twenty something crowd. If a doctor gives a tubal to an impulsive 18 year old woman who only thinks she's childfree, but isn't, and years later she wants a child she can successfully sue him for not having the foresight to know she, as an 18 year old young woman, may change her mind. I'm fully in support of waivers of liability if that's what it takes to get doctors to do tubals and avoid lawsuits from those that don't really know what they want in their lives. I agree. It may make it slightly more expensive but doctors can use legal documentation to protect themselves. I mean, when you get an abortion you sign an agreement that you can't go back later and sue the doctor for not realizing that you may regret it.. it should be the same for tubals, vasectomies, etc. 3nodding
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:14 pm
I remember dispensing a prescription for misoprostal at work a couple years ago. I was counting out 4 of them, and the conversation between the pharmacist and me went something like this:
RPh: Do you know what that's for? (whispering and sounding a little disgusted)
Me: Not exactly. (I had an idea that is was an abortion Rx because I knew that particular drug was not for pregnant women to take. The label made clear note of it.)
RPh: It's for having an abortion. (with same attitude)
Me: Oh. That's what I thought it was for. Good for her!
This was followed by a co-worker, who is having trouble conceiving a child still to this day, making a remark about how bad abortion is. While I understand her feelings (she'd been trying to get pregnant for years, and here's a woman just "throwing away" her fetus, something my co-worker wished she keep for a few months without miscarrying.) I still got into a little debate with her about it.
I just wish I could have been the pharmacist there that day. I would have definitely offered that particular patient some counseling on her medicine. She was in her 40's, so I know she couldn't have been completely lost in the process, but I would make sure she knew that she could come to me with any questions or problems she may have.
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:17 pm
Lady Adriata Talon-chan Lady Adriata MipsyKitten Lady Adriata Much simpler but there are some of us who do want to get pregnant.. just not right now. xd In a better world they'd have different rules on who can get a tubal ligation. As they are now I think they're retarded (the rules) and it's denying plenty of good candidates with a means to protect themselves. Yeah, but the really ******** up thing is that there are no rules. There are no medical guidelines stating a woman has to be over 35, and have 2+ kids. Legally, you can get a tubal from the age of 18. It's the doctor's personal morals which stand in the way of so many women, and having a tubal. Really? That is truly ******** up. It's like the doctor's deciding for the woman. -_- How many abortions could be avoided yearly too if they did more tubal ligations? Yeah, but think of how many lawsuits would be created? As much as childfree people hate to hear it - many women do change their mind about children... in particular the fifteen to twenty something crowd. If a doctor gives a tubal to an impulsive 18 year old woman who only thinks she's childfree, but isn't, and years later she wants a child she can successfully sue him for not having the foresight to know she, as an 18 year old young woman, may change her mind. I'm fully in support of waivers of liability if that's what it takes to get doctors to do tubals and avoid lawsuits from those that don't really know what they want in their lives. I agree. It may make it slightly more expensive but doctors can use legal documentation to protect themselves. I mean, when you get an abortion you sign an agreement that you can't go back later and sue the doctor for not realizing that you may regret it.. it should be the same for tubals, vasectomies, etc. 3nodding I've always not liked the situation on tubals. Even when I was a kid. I told my mom that I never want children, and that I want my tubes tied. When she told me the doctors won't do it until I've had children, I was rather angry and disgusted. Could you imagine a world where women are back to kitchen utensil abortions, and then start trying to tie their own tubes off too? Ugh. The bloodshed.
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:07 pm
Avicia I remember dispensing a prescription for misoprostal at work a couple years ago. I was counting out 4 of them, and the conversation between the pharmacist and me went something like this: RPh: Do you know what that's for? (whispering and sounding a little disgusted) Me: Not exactly. (I had an idea that is was an abortion Rx because I knew that particular drug was not for pregnant women to take. The label made clear note of it.) RPh: It's for having an abortion. (with same attitude) Me: Oh. That's what I thought it was for. Good for her! This was followed by a co-worker, who is having trouble conceiving a child still to this day, making a remark about how bad abortion is. While I understand her feelings (she'd been trying to get pregnant for years, and here's a woman just "throwing away" her fetus, something my co-worker wished she keep for a few months without miscarrying.) I still got into a little debate with her about it. I just wish I could have been the pharmacist there that day. I would have definitely offered that particular patient some counseling on her medicine. She was in her 40's, so I know she couldn't have been completely lost in the process, but I would make sure she knew that she could come to me with any questions or problems she may have. I got a dirty look from the pharamcist when I picked up my prescription. I smiled at her and tapped my belly then left. She looked like she'd choked on a pineapple.
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