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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:43 am


so i was watching a history channel special about the end of the world.Anways i looked up the stuff and heres what i found.Well i hope you like it.

The ancient peoples of Mesoamerica were of a vast interconnected empire, filled with rich art, education and destruction. The Maya were one of these tribes. Other than archaeological intrigue why are these people so studied? Their written language was based on pictographs, much like the ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs. Mayan culture was like most other native cultures.




The Maya had an understanding of mathematics and understood the value of zero long before its discovery in the Eastern parts of the world. Their understanding of numbers and astronomy gave us the Mayan calendars of the Long and Short Counts. So why does this calendar attract so much attention now? The Mayan calendar ends on the Gregorian calendar date of December 21, 2012, which most people believe is the total end of civilization, as we know it, while others believe it is simply a change of enlightenment in this current time. Many theories have sprung up about this end date, ranging from the laughable, to the religious, to the scientific.

There are actually three Mayan calendar systems, the 365-day Solar year, the 260-day Ritual year, and the 5,128 years of the World Time calendar. The Haab or Solar year was broken down into an 18 month plus five days cycle. 18 months of 20 days and the 5 soulless days which were thought to be of ill omen, kind of like 5 days of Friday the 13th. The Tzolkin (zol-KEEN) or Sacred Round was the 260-day ritual calendar was broken down by days, not months. This religious calendar was the basis on how the people, singly and collectively, went on with their day-to-day lives according to destiny.

August 11, 3.114 B.C. when the world began in, long count to Gregorian translation. This beginning date was reached by finding a point in future time (December 21 2012) and counting backwards, as theories go, which gives us a 5,126 year span, not including year zero. This is still one year off if year zero is included. The Mayan World calendar is a series of 5,128 years per span. What is the extra year? Were translations wrong somehow, it is quite possible.







So what is supposed to happen on this magical date of December 21, 2012?
One theory suggests that a Magnetic Field shift will occur around this time, that the calendar was based on pole shifts, which have occurred repetitively throughout the Earths history. The Maya, understanding the time periods between these shifts created their Long count calendar around them and come up with the final date for the next pole shift. But how would they know what to look for to expect another shift? How much time was supposed to pass between these shifts and how did they know it? Was there record passed down to them from long ago recounting a time when there was a prior pole shift so that mathematics could be used to predict the next one to come? Or did the ancients study a form of dendrochronology the study of climate changes by looking at tree rings.

Others suggest a much more mythical or religious approach. December 21, 2012 is also the Winter Solstice, and provides us with a view that will not be seen again in any of our lifetimes. The Sun will conjunct the intersection of the Milky Way in the ecliptic, giving us view of the Sacred Tree as called by the Maya, giving us view of the Tree of Life. Both of these scenarios are quite possible, one scientific explanation, and one religious. What we still do not know, and probably will not know is what will happen after this end date until it actually occurs. A new dawn of enlightenment would be a step towards progression, in that mankind would become more aware of their surroundings and the impact that they have on the Earth as well as a higher intelligence and consciousness and a better mindset for helping their fellow man. Perhaps this is the end, when Mother Nature finally decides to shrug off the oppressiveness that has been created by the children and start anew. We may just end up living through another doomsday prophecy, going to work or school as usual, looking back on the prophecies and laughing them off. Peter may have cried wolf too often for our cynical minds.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:49 am


These guys watched too much "The Day After Tomorrow"

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:49 am


No one cares
PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:50 am


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like he said

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:08 am


Asteroids, solar flares, plagues, alien invasion, earthquakes, artificial intelligence, nuclear holocaust, can all be included in the short list as to the speculation on how it will happen. While the "how" makes for a lively debate the more important question is "when".

Many theories have come and gone with regard to the actual date of the end of the world. Religious leaders, prophets, and other have forever been predicting the world's demise and missing the mark. 1997, 1999, and 2000 were all claimed to be the last year by different sources. So far, they have all been wrong. But, one of the most popular upcoming dates for our meeting with destiny written thousands of years ago is fast approaching. According to the Mayan civilization, 2012 will be the end of this age. But before we let the wild speculation begin as what this prophecy actually means for us, lets a quick look at some of the others who clearly got it wrong when they predicted the end of the world:

1) Heaven's Gate Cult (Marshall Herff Applewhite)

Prediction: With the coming of the comet Hale- Bopp, it was time to leave the planet. The earth was going to be "recycled" and the only way to survive was to leave the planet with the cult and board the UFO that was following behind the comet.

What actually happened: The earth is still here, but the 39 member of the Heaven's Gate Cult are not. On March 26th, 1997, they all dressed in black shirts, sweat pants and brand new Nike tennis shoes, and committed suicide.

2) Y2k

Prediction: The theory was that on January 1st , 2000 the world's computer systems would crash because they were not programmed to deal with dates beyond 1999. Many people prepared their New Years Eve celebration by stocking up on survival supplies to be prepared for when the world's infrastructure ground to a screeching halt.

What actually happened: The ball dropped in Times Square and no significant problems occurred. I am sure all the folks who bought into this one had a great time stocking up on SPAM and other supplies to wait out the chaos that never came.

3) Nostradamus

Prediction: Making predictions was a full time job for Nostradamus, but for the scope of this article we will limit ourselves to one prediction of his. This one claims that a great catastrophe would occur in the seventh month (July), of 1999. This was largely interpreted by his followers as the end of the world.

What actually happened: There were a few unfortunate events such as the death, of John F. Kennedy Jr., a riot at the Woodstock festival in upstate New York and a canyoning accident that resulted in 21 deaths in Switzerland. Lance Armstrong did win the Tour de France, which could have been considered a catastrophe if you had money on the other guy.

Next up on the list is the ancient prophecy of the Mayan Long Count. With only a few years to go before we get to see the results, this prophecy will become the next big doomsday rumor to grace supermarket magazine racks and television shows. Before we jump to any conclusions, let's take a look at a little bit of the background to the Mayan doomsday prediction.

Mayan Long Count: Counting Down to 2012 At its peak, it was one of the most densely populated and culturally dynamic societies in the world. There is evidence to suggest that the Mayan culture began as early as 1000BC. Dominating the Mesoamerican landscape for hundreds of years the Mayan Empire can be credited with many significant artistic and mathematical achievements. One of these achievements was the Mayan calendars.

The Mayan daily or civil calendar was surprisingly accurate. Called the Haab, it was comprised of 18 months each 20 days long. This created a 360 day year. The other 5 and half days were saved for religious ceremonies. Developed from the Mayan's grasp of lunar mathematics, they calculated the lunar month was 29.53019 days long. With all of the technology available to us today, we have determined a lunar month to be 29.53020 days. Not too bad for a society without the aid of today's computers.

The second calendar, the Tzolkin, was the Mayan religious calendar. This system was used primarily for agriculture and religious purposes. It was accurately based on the complete 26 day lunar phases of the moon from new moon to full moon and back again.

Here's where it gets spooky. Now that we have established the credibility of the Mayan mathematic and astrological ability, let's take a look at another Mayan calendar.

Known as the Mayan Long Count, the calendar's cycle is precise in its length, 1,872,000 days. This calendar identifies a date by counting the number of days from August 11, 3114 BCE, the date that is considered to be the beginning of creation.

If you were to follow it out to the end you would arrive on December 21st in the year 2012. Will that be the end of the world as we know it?

The interpretation of this varies. Some have suggested the earth will be reborn after a series of massive earthquakes, other have suggested that the magnetic poles of the earth will shift. All is of course speculation, but it makes for an interesting discussion to consider we are only 6 years from the end of a cycle that is thousands of years long.

Although there is no universally accepted theory to explain Mayan decline, current theories generally have to do with some sort of ecological disaster such as disease or famine or are due to invasion from neighboring cultures.



There are many locations in the Yucatan peninsula and elsewhere where you can see the remains of this once thriving culture. Tikal, Chichén Itzá, Tulum, and Coba are just some of the many lasting monuments of the Mayan Empire.

Preparing For the EndOne thing that has proven true with all of these predictions is the public fascination with them. Inevitably, we will see the same occurrence as we get closer to 2012. Already it has been announced that 2012 will also be the topic of director Michael Bay's next big budget movie "2012: The War for Souls" due out in 2010. You can be assured there will be numerous discovery channel shows and maybe even some prime time panic inducing, if the executives at the television network think they can get the Neilson ratings up with this topic. The good thing about the 2012 prediction is that it may encourage some people to educate themselves a little bit on the fascinating culture of the Mayan Empire. Unfortunately, many people won't research beyond the supermarket tabloid headline we should expect to see increasing in frequency. Beyond this I myself will make no predictions for 2012.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:48 am


I believe in the end of the world as much as I believe in any kind of religion. rolleyes

apoole


TheDukeMan70

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:53 am


apoole
I believe in the end of the world as much as I believe in any kind of religion. rolleyes


well i agree on religion, but the end of the world i see happening at some point
PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:59 am


apoole
I believe in the end of the world as much as I believe in any kind of religion. rolleyes

well its bound to happen someday.We as humans are going to destroy ourselves.I belive all this war will play a big ppart in the end.I also believe 9-11 played a huge roll in the deciding of how it all ends.

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RandyDaGr81

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:02 am


You forgot the whole 6-6-06 thing.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:02 am


-RandyAceOfSpades-
You forgot the whole 6-6-06 thing.

yea that was a load anyways

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JobsEveryDay

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:05 am


Kronik
No one cares
True Dat
PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:21 am


The Reason For Your Death
-RandyAceOfSpades-
You forgot the whole 6-6-06 thing.

yea that was a load anyways


now your contradicting yoursefl sweatdrop

TheDukeMan70


The Reason For Your Death

PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:36 am


Duke_619
The Reason For Your Death
-RandyAceOfSpades-
You forgot the whole 6-6-06 thing.

yea that was a load anyways


now your contradicting yoursefl sweatdrop

no im saying 6-6-06 is a load i firmly believe dec 21 2012 is the end.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:28 pm


Dont worry Kid ill see you on 12-22-12...unless thats the date Skynet goes online..then it would be the end of the world!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:08 pm


MajinInferno
Dont worry Kid ill see you on 12-22-12...unless thats the date Skynet goes online..then it would be the end of the world!


LOL

whats skynet?
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