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 Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:06 pm
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Hindu is a very, very complex religion. It's not like Christianity, where sects vary based on technical rules or understandings of dogma. Some Hindus are polytheists, some are henotheistic, some are even atheistic or agnostic but still believe in the overarching metaphysics and principles. There are millions of gods for just about everything in existence.
My preferred understanding is that it is essentially animist- Everything is influenced by Karma, which is more of a flowing energy than a retribution thing. There are spirits (or gods) for rivers, mountains, animals, what have you. Everything has that divine spark. There are three main aspects- Brahma, of creation, Shiva of destruction, and Vishnu of preservation or continuation, which we see in reality- Birth, life, and death in a cycle.
These are all aspects of reality, but the true "God" of Hindu, as a Christian or Jew or Muslim would know God would be Brahman. It is the truth behind truth, the light behind light. It is absolute, transcendent truth, and is everything.
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 1:06 am
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divineseraph There are three main aspects- Brahma, of creation, Shiva of destruction, and Vishnu of preservation or continuation, which we see in reality- Birth, life, and death in a cycle. These are all aspects of reality, but the true "God" of Hindu, as a Christian or Jew or Muslim would know God would be Brahman. It is the truth behind truth, the light behind light. It is absolute, transcendent truth, and is everything.
I'm not so certain(see the bolded):
As you yourself just pointed out, Brahma is Creation.
However, God of the One Faith(s), is also continuation, the ever-present care and love.
This would point just as much, or even more, towards Vishnu.
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Not to mention the fact that The One has allegedly (in the bible) shown to be capable of destruction as well, despite that some think that destruction is the property of the devil alone ....
So, as i see it, the God of the One Faith(s), is really closer to a blend of all the three main aspects of reality, rather than creation only. |
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:59 pm
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Tiina Brown divineseraph There are three main aspects- Brahma, of creation, Shiva of destruction, and Vishnu of preservation or continuation, which we see in reality- Birth, life, and death in a cycle. These are all aspects of reality, but the true "God" of Hindu, as a Christian or Jew or Muslim would know God would be Brahman. It is the truth behind truth, the light behind light. It is absolute, transcendent truth, and is everything. I'm not so certain(see the bolded): As you yourself just pointed out, Brahma is Creation. However, God of the One Faith(s), is also continuation, the ever-present care and love. This would point just as much, or even more, towards Vishnu. ..... Not to mention the fact that The One has allegedly (in the bible) shown to be capable of destruction as well, despite that some think that destruction is the property of the devil alone .... So, as i see it, the God of the One Faith(s), is really closer to a blend of all the three main aspects of reality, rather than creation only.
From the Upanishads:
Quote: May we also know the One, who is the highest imperishable Brahman...
Quote: If thou thinkest "I know It well," then it is certain that thou knowest but little of Brahman, or in what form He resideth in the Devas
The Devas are all the plethora of Gods that are actually minor deities, aspects of Brahman. Part of the problem is of course the translation of sanskrit into English but Divine had it right, Brahman is the One, the Absolute, he's the closest you come to the Abrahamic God.
It gets confusing because Brahma is one of those aspects, but not the same as Brahman. As wikipedia says on Brahma:
Quote: Brahma is the Hindu god (deva) of creation and one of the Trimurti, the others being Vishnu and Shiva. According to the Brahma Purana, he is the father of Mānu, and from Mānu all human beings are descended. In the Ramayana and the Mahābhārata, he is often referred to as the progenitor or great grandsire of all human beings. He is not to be confused with the Supreme Cosmic Spirit in Hindu Vedānta philosophy known as Brahman, which is genderless. |
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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:36 am
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Lateralus es Helica Tiina Brown divineseraph There are three main aspects- Brahma, of creation, Shiva of destruction, and Vishnu of preservation or continuation, which we see in reality- Birth, life, and death in a cycle. These are all aspects of reality, but the true "God" of Hindu, as a Christian or Jew or Muslim would know God would be Brahman. It is the truth behind truth, the light behind light. It is absolute, transcendent truth, and is everything. I'm not so certain(see the bolded): As you yourself just pointed out, Brahma is Creation. However, God of the One Faith(s), is also continuation, the ever-present care and love. This would point just as much, or even more, towards Vishnu. ..... Not to mention the fact that The One has allegedly (in the bible) shown to be capable of destruction as well, despite that some think that destruction is the property of the devil alone .... So, as i see it, the God of the One Faith(s), is really closer to a blend of all the three main aspects of reality, rather than creation only. From the Upanishads: Quote: May we also know the One, who is the highest imperishable Brahman... Quote: If thou thinkest "I know It well," then it is certain that thou knowest but little of Brahman, or in what form He resideth in the Devas The Devas are all the plethora of Gods that are actually minor deities, aspects of Brahman. Part of the problem is of course the translation of sanskrit into English but Divine had it right, Brahman is the One, the Absolute, he's the closest you come to the Abrahamic God. It gets confusing because Brahma is one of those aspects, but not the same as Brahman. As wikipedia says on Brahma: Quote: Brahma is the Hindu god (deva) of creation and one of the Trimurti, the others being Vishnu and Shiva. According to the Brahma Purana, he is the father of Mānu, and from Mānu all human beings are descended. In the Ramayana and the Mahābhārata, he is often referred to as the progenitor or great grandsire of all human beings. He is not to be confused with the Supreme Cosmic Spirit in Hindu Vedānta philosophy known as Brahman, which is genderless.
Ah, so the One God may be the same as Brahman, but not Brahma ........
That's a .... wierd translation problem .... |
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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:22 am
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Tiina Brown Lateralus es Helica Tiina Brown divineseraph There are three main aspects- Brahma, of creation, Shiva of destruction, and Vishnu of preservation or continuation, which we see in reality- Birth, life, and death in a cycle. These are all aspects of reality, but the true "God" of Hindu, as a Christian or Jew or Muslim would know God would be Brahman. It is the truth behind truth, the light behind light. It is absolute, transcendent truth, and is everything. I'm not so certain(see the bolded): As you yourself just pointed out, Brahma is Creation. However, God of the One Faith(s), is also continuation, the ever-present care and love. This would point just as much, or even more, towards Vishnu. ..... Not to mention the fact that The One has allegedly (in the bible) shown to be capable of destruction as well, despite that some think that destruction is the property of the devil alone .... So, as i see it, the God of the One Faith(s), is really closer to a blend of all the three main aspects of reality, rather than creation only. From the Upanishads: Quote: May we also know the One, who is the highest imperishable Brahman... Quote: If thou thinkest "I know It well," then it is certain that thou knowest but little of Brahman, or in what form He resideth in the Devas The Devas are all the plethora of Gods that are actually minor deities, aspects of Brahman. Part of the problem is of course the translation of sanskrit into English but Divine had it right, Brahman is the One, the Absolute, he's the closest you come to the Abrahamic God. It gets confusing because Brahma is one of those aspects, but not the same as Brahman. As wikipedia says on Brahma: Quote: Brahma is the Hindu god (deva) of creation and one of the Trimurti, the others being Vishnu and Shiva. According to the Brahma Purana, he is the father of Mānu, and from Mānu all human beings are descended. In the Ramayana and the Mahābhārata, he is often referred to as the progenitor or great grandsire of all human beings. He is not to be confused with the Supreme Cosmic Spirit in Hindu Vedānta philosophy known as Brahman, which is genderless. Ah, so the One God may be the same as Brahman, but not Brahma ........ That's a .... wierd translation problem ....
I'm not positive but I think it was because Brahma was the first of the Trimurti and Devas...hence the similarity in names. |
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:54 pm
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Tiina Brown divineseraph There are three main aspects- Brahma, of creation, Shiva of destruction, and Vishnu of preservation or continuation, which we see in reality- Birth, life, and death in a cycle. These are all aspects of reality, but the true "God" of Hindu, as a Christian or Jew or Muslim would know God would be Brahman. It is the truth behind truth, the light behind light. It is absolute, transcendent truth, and is everything. I'm not so certain(see the bolded): As you yourself just pointed out, Brahma is Creation. However, God of the One Faith(s), is also continuation, the ever-present care and love. This would point just as much, or even more, towards Vishnu. ..... Not to mention the fact that The One has allegedly (in the bible) shown to be capable of destruction as well, despite that some think that destruction is the property of the devil alone .... So, as i see it, the God of the One Faith(s), is really closer to a blend of all the three main aspects of reality, rather than creation only.
Exactly. The Abrahamic God is a parallel (I.E., the same thing as) Brahman in that it extends through all things, makes all things, is the destruction of all things, and is all things.
The Brahman is the All, the combination of the spiritual and physical. In a monotheistic system, the god (of any name) is the All. Vishnu, Shiva and Brahma are all aspects of the All, the All is Brahman and YHWH and Aton and any other name for the same thing. |
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 11:19 pm
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Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:21 pm
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The New Wineskin Hinduism is... complicated. It is a believe that a following of caste responsibilities will lead to good karma which will move you up the social ladder when you are reborn. Once you become a brahmin, or priest, if you follow your dharma, you will be released from the wheel of life and merge your soul with the Great World Soul, or Brahman. Brahman is a single deity as well as the entire world and all within it manifested into several or infinite forms and deities, each representing a part of the Great World Soul. Basically, Hinudism is pantheistic, monotheistic, and polytheistic. Wonderful.
you have no idea what you are talking about. confused
Brahman is not a deity, it is the Infinite, Omnipresent force of Divinity -- kinda like Allah, but completely impersonal. Brahma is the God of Creation, the progenitor of the Human Race. Brahma is distinct from Brahman.
furthermore, Hinduism is distinct from Brahmanism, which predates it. the Brahmans are a completely different animal than the Hindus. Hinduism itself is also only an umbrella term for hundreds of thousands of different religions which follow the teachings of the Upanishads, Vedas, Puranas and the Bhagavad Gita.
there is a concept in Hinduism called Atman, which means that all the Gods are aspects or incarnations of Brahman. |
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Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:57 pm
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Chieftain Twilight The New Wineskin Hinduism is... complicated. It is a believe that a following of caste responsibilities will lead to good karma which will move you up the social ladder when you are reborn. Once you become a brahmin, or priest, if you follow your dharma, you will be released from the wheel of life and merge your soul with the Great World Soul, or Brahman. Brahman is a single deity as well as the entire world and all within it manifested into several or infinite forms and deities, each representing a part of the Great World Soul. Basically, Hinudism is pantheistic, monotheistic, and polytheistic. Wonderful. you have no idea what you are talking about. confused Brahman is not a deity, it is the Infinite, Omnipresent force of Divinity -- kinda like Allah, but completely impersonal. Brahma is the God of Creation, the progenitor of the Human Race. Brahma is distinct from Brahman. furthermore, Hinduism is distinct from Brahmanism, which predates it. the Brahmans are a completely different animal than the Hindus. Hinduism itself is also only an umbrella term for hundreds of thousands of different religions which follow the teachings of the Upanishads, Vedas, Puranas and the Bhagavad Gita. there is a concept in Hinduism called Atman, which means that all the Gods are aspects or incarnations of Brahman.
Wow, I wrote that three years ago. I completely forgot about it. Cool deal. |
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Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:17 pm
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The New Wineskin Chieftain Twilight The New Wineskin Hinduism is... complicated. It is a believe that a following of caste responsibilities will lead to good karma which will move you up the social ladder when you are reborn. Once you become a brahmin, or priest, if you follow your dharma, you will be released from the wheel of life and merge your soul with the Great World Soul, or Brahman. Brahman is a single deity as well as the entire world and all within it manifested into several or infinite forms and deities, each representing a part of the Great World Soul. Basically, Hinudism is pantheistic, monotheistic, and polytheistic. Wonderful. you have no idea what you are talking about. confused Brahman is not a deity, it is the Infinite, Omnipresent force of Divinity -- kinda like Allah, but completely impersonal. Brahma is the God of Creation, the progenitor of the Human Race. Brahma is distinct from Brahman. furthermore, Hinduism is distinct from Brahmanism, which predates it. the Brahmans are a completely different animal than the Hindus. Hinduism itself is also only an umbrella term for hundreds of thousands of different religions which follow the teachings of the Upanishads, Vedas, Puranas and the Bhagavad Gita. there is a concept in Hinduism called Atman, which means that all the Gods are aspects or incarnations of Brahman. Wow, I wrote that three years ago. I completely forgot about it. Cool deal.
wow, guilds have way looser forum rules than the forums. sweatdrop |
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:41 am
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