opposites

[i_exist_without_existing]

opposites without one you cannot have the other

if all were good then nothing could really be good because all are equal

i quote the bad guy in incredibles "once everyones super nobody will be"

the same applies to opposites

if all is good or whatever then nothing really is because there is no evil to make it seem good  

[ArchWarrior]

What is the point of this topic? Because as a neutral I don't have a opposite because the only opposite of a neutral is to polarize it into at lest 2 parts. But without opposites we neutrals can't exist, and we neutral need to exist to help keep balance in the world.  

[JoSlifer]

You are absolutely correct, Kakuro. My scriptures say the same thing: "For it must needs be, that there is an opposition in all things. If not so,...righteousness could not be brought to pass, neither wickedness, neither holiness nor misery, neither good nor bad. Wherefore, all things must needs be a compound in one; wherefore, if it should be one body it must needs remain as dead, having no life neither death, nor corruption nor incorruption, happiness nor misery, neither sense nor insensibility" (2 Nephi 2:11). Lehi is talking to his son Jacob about life, saying that "Yeah, there will be bad days, and you will have good days." There has to be friction so there can be motion.

Warrior... The world could exist without neutrals. In fact, it will have to. "Behold, there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is thew hore of all the earth" (1 Nephi 14:10). There are no fence-sitters, really: You're either with the Lord, or you're with the devil. A weight on either side of a scale will balance it, but a weight in the middle will do neither.  

[ArchWarrior]

rofl People who live in a world of absolutes sooner or later find out that they are absolutely wrong. If you think about it, with God being a all powerful and knowing being he made the devil to oppose humans and cause them pain and unrest (note the devil is against humans not God, there is a difference). You are confused as what kind of neutral I'm talking about. We can be can be called balance keepers if it is to confusing to call use neutral. We are the people who are made to walk the line between worlds to help keep thing in check. There are people who live in darkness to help show others the way to light. Their are those how are willing save the world or destroy it when God give the order. The reason we called neutral is because often we balance ourselves out, not because we take no acts. You can think of it like this, it save those lost in the darkness a person may damn his own soul to free and protect others. He is some ways a good person but he dose so called "evil" act to save people from the darkness. You can call a man "evil" for steeling food and medicine and so times having to fight/hurt others in doing so, but how evil is he if he is doing it to feed the weak and dieing when no one else will help? The only difference between a hero and a villein is who's view or actions you agree with most. No one is ever as good or as bad as you think they are. People are people, no more and no less. And when you fight the devil you must be wary as to not to become the devil yourself.

I'm a neutral because unlike you I live in a world of few absolutes. I may have the gift of prophecy, but because of my acts you say I'm a reluctant prophet. I'm person loves peace, but at the same time I train and prepare for war. I don't like to fight, but at the same time I love to spar and play war games. I don't care if it is may role to help save the world or destroy it, as long as I did the jobs I was sent to this world to do. I'm in no way a saint but I'm not really a sinner ether. Some people are living paradoxes.  

[JoSlifer]

Frankly, that's nonsense. God didn't make the devil, Lucifer became Satan of his own accord. And you yourself haven't been "made" to do anything; it's all what you want to do. You may want to be "neutral" by your own definition Archie, if it pleases you, but it is absolutely illogical to want to be a paradox. And "Robin Hood"-ism is against the law, by the way. razz  

[ArchWarrior]

Oh, I'm sorry are you an all seeing and all knowing being equal to that of God? Was you there there when I awoke and was told by God I'm going to be sent to this world? Are you there with us when I and God talk, telling me I need to go here or there and wait for something or help this person even if I no clue as to where or who it is? Was you there all those times I almost died/killed only to be told "Sorry, you still have work to do. I know you are tired and want to come home, but not just yet." and awake with the thing that should have killed me for some reason missing by ever so small an amount or the damage being far less than it should? Was you there when I and my family almost froze to death one night only to be helped by a man we never seen before who shared his food and home with us only to find out the next day no one in the area heard of the man and that the home there was torn down over 5 years before?

If not than you really can't talk for me or God can you.

P.s. God made the devil to oppose man so he'll know what wrong and evil is. Because it is his job to oppose man and give them a hard time it is the hope that we, the ones with free will (angels and demons have no real will of their own), to know what is right and wrong than chose what is right. As well as to show what true love is by showing man hate, therefore leading man back to God.