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Hikigane_Trijen Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:11 pm
So I have been in a few discussions about Superman vs. The Hulk. Sadly Hulk fans make little to no valid points to support their claim aside from his brute strength and regeneration capabilities. So I decided to see what everyone here thinks about it. Superman or The Hulk, take a side or not. Just say what you think.
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:39 pm
They've actually had the two face off in a crossover once; a particularly notorious panel shows Hulk hitting Supes in the chest, and Supes not moving.
Here's the pic:

Supes fans probably take this picture as evidence that Supes would beat the Hulk. But, as noted on the TV Tropes page for the "No Sell" trope (that pic is the trope picture...):
"Note that in the picture above (which comes from the second Superman versus Spider-Man special) Superman had already been knocked around by the Hulk, but decided to stand his ground using his full power to calm the monster. The story hints that if he hadn't succeeded, the Hulk (whose strength increases the madder he gets) would have eventually overcome even that."
So, I figure Hulk versus Superman could potentially turn out like the legendary fight between Supes and Doomsday, which led to both of them being declared clinically dead while both recovering and coming back later. So, stalemate in my mind.
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Skylark_Watcher13 Captain
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:43 pm
I have to agree with Oncaro.
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:18 am
If I recall in that crossover Superman was SEVERELY caught off guard at first and he wasn't really there to beat down hulk just...calm him down. I'd say Supes could win, only if he catches Hulk early but at a certain point he'd be hard to handle and it may end up like the Doomsday fight unless Superman flew him into space...because I don't think Hulk can breath up there. Their powers are very inconsistent so its hard to tell.
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Hikigane_Trijen Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:56 am
Taking in a lot of variables, it is fan pleasing to say it would be a stalemate; it is one of the plausible answers after all. But if we look closer at the Hulks mental capabilities, he relies solely on blind rage and brute strength, Doomsday had higher mental capabilities then The Hulk. (Based on the regular Hulk and not the one where Hulk and Banner actually working as one). The biggest factor for The Hulk is the fact that he gets stronger the angrier he becomes, so Superman would have to finish him fast. This would be hard to do, bc Superman always hold back at the start of fights, he is not easy to anger and he will need to go all out at the start of the match. What could possibly turn things in his favor is the fact that he is smarter then The Hulk, and he has more going for him then brute strength. While projectile weapons yield little to no effect on The Hulk, energy weapons are some what effective. Also Superman has speed, if he can accelerate himself fast enough he can do a lot of damage. So for example Superman flying around the world doing a hit and run tactic, picking up speed with every pass; that speed can then be converted into power( he wouldn't really need to travel around the world, just anything to pick up speed). So in my opinion Supermans intelligence, speed, and heat vision could be a factor in him winning.
There is no real way of telling who would win; but if these two where real, spectators would be backing the most human looking one lol The Hulk has anger issues and Superman is a boyscout, if a fight where to break out, It wouldn't be bc Superman started it. It would be that Superman is trying to stop the Hulk, so he would have more supporters then The Hulk. If Superman where to lose, the world would see The Hulk as and even bigger monster and a bigger threat then he already is lol.
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:56 pm
So basically for the hulk...nothing would really change it'd just be more annoying. But yeah Hulk is VERY stupid and this had led to him being taken out several times so if Superman doesn't want a major issue then yes he'd have to take him out fast. Hulk has beaten smarter enemies before because he's pretty unpredictable and he always does something that goes against their plans. Speed might be the deciding factor since Hulk is slow since even Batman was able to keep from getting hit.....for a time.  All I can say for certain is that be a lot of repairs. But that's why you never send a boyscout to do a job that actually requires someone being taken down. Superman is HORRIBLE when it comes to that at first he allows things to build.
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Hikigane_Trijen Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:02 pm
So I had been doing some digging and now I am convinced that Superman might be able to defeat the Hulk almost effortlessly. The Superman that is always seen is not what he can be. I am sure you all have seen the Allstar Superman movie right? In the movie it shows what happens when Superman gets to close to the sun, minus the negative effects it gives him in the movie; but it boost his powers greatly. The scary thing is that isn't even as close as what they can get. In a few comics they feather Supermen completely moving the earth. That is not an easy feat to say the least. The earth weighs in close to 6 sextrillion tons give or take (i know it sounds like a made up number but its real lol 6,000,000,000,000,000,000) The Hulk as far as we know doesn't even come close to being able to move something like that. Also at his strongest Superman can withstand damage from multiple supernovas. A Supernova is one of the most destructive things in space and on top of that Superman's strongest attack know as the "Infant Mass Punch" is on pare with a supernova. That one hit alone would destroy the hulk. But this Superman doesn't surface until Clark gets over the idea that he is not human. When he first found out he wasn't from earth he put up a mental block, this suppressed his powers greatly. As he is now the Hulk can take him, but when he realise what he can be, the Hulk doesn't stand a chance. Also the fight with Doomsday took place at night, In his current state he is greatly weaker at night.
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:28 pm
Hikigane_Trijen So I had been doing some digging and now I am convinced that Superman might be able to defeat the Hulk almost effortlessly. The Superman that is always seen is not what he can be. I am sure you all have seen the Allstar Superman movie right? In the movie it shows what happens when Superman gets to close to the sun, minus the negative effects it gives him in the movie; but it boost his powers greatly. The scary thing is that isn't even as close as what they can get. In a few comics they feather Supermen completely moving the earth. That is not an easy feat to say the least. The earth weighs in close to 6 sextrillion tons give or take (i know it sounds like a made up number but its real lol 6,000,000,000,000,000,000) The Hulk as far as we know doesn't even come close to being able to move something like that. Also at his strongest Superman can withstand damage from multiple supernovas. A Supernova is one of the most destructive things in space and on top of that Superman's strongest attack know as the "Infant Mass Punch" is on pare with a supernova. That one hit alone would destroy the hulk. But this Superman doesn't surface until Clark gets over the idea that he is not human. When he first found out he wasn't from earth he put up a mental block, this suppressed his powers greatly. As he is now the Hulk can take him, but when he realise what he can be, the Hulk doesn't stand a chance. Also the fight with Doomsday took place at night, In his current state he is greatly weaker at night. Yeah. Pretty much that. Honestly, Superman is virtually unstoppable and Hulk's strongest incarnation is blue Hulk I think with captain Universe' power. Honestly any match-up with Superman is wildly unfair in most cases unless that person has magic and is willing to kill first. Or has kryptonite and doesn't have a sense of honor. Also if memory serves me correctly....in the comic it was day time the entire time. Doomsday was strong enough to do damage to Superman with only one hand if I recall that whole start of it and to put him into a "healing coma" [[Ugh!]] But ya know, the writers of Superman are really fans of cop-outs so.....eh.
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:06 am
It depends on the location. Also Hulk is no longer an idiot, especially as Green Scar, meaning he can think. If there ever is a crossover where they have to fight, greeen scar could learn about kryptonite, or kryptonians losing their power under a red sun. Talk about the hulk, only weakness is being calmed down. Also Hulk knows how to take down people with regenerative abilities. In world war hulk, he got in a fight with the X-men and was confronted by Wolverine, where Wolverine boasted about regenerating from anything the hulk could dish out, but it wasn't the normal hulk it was Green Scar. Who then ran up to Wolverine and punched him in the brain hard enough to give him massive brain damage, putting Wolverine in a vegetative state, slowly regenerating, as Green Scar defeated all the X-men, and enslave most of the marvel heroes on Earth.
However Superman is only known for handling his greatest opponents by throwing them into the sun. Once that would happen the hulk would become powered by the sun, as well as by superman, making Hulk ably to overcome the power of Superman.
In the speed department, it a tie because through the Hulk lacks super speed, he will simply gain superhuman leaps, as his leg muscles increase as well. Shown giving him the ability to run faster faster than a speeding bullet. Thus if superman comes at him the hulk will leap at him like a bullet. A bullet the has the same amount of strength multiplied by weight and momentum, and you have to consider if they crash into something.
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