Well to be clear when I was saying "You" and such, it was a general term. After all, I pretty much started the whole "Taking over villages" thing in this guild. So I can easily become the one that takes the time to put those who want to run around taking them over now, in their place. 3nodding
As far as I'm concerned. I'll stay out of it, until something pokes at my interests. I just figured I may as well throw my opinion in, and try and get more active in this guild again. Especially since RPing is something I can do with little internet, and my internet has been wicked shitty lately.
Understandable.
I remember the Angra Mainyu taking s**t over for a while, and the crescent moon right?
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:39 pm
Hmm, all kinds of mess to respond to. I agree with Dreaming. I may be sad to see Drago's characters retire, but it is his call. I'll stand by it, and hope they eventually convince him to un-retire them.
As far as the conquering villages thing goes... I always wondered why we even had it in the first place. Logically, to conquer a village, you don't just need to prove yourself superior to the village's entire military defense. You would also need to put into play some measure of logistics, stick around and do your new job as mayor. After all, simply sticking a flag in it and leaving means they just have to knock the flag over. The slight advantage of learning a few techs at cheaper numbers never thrilled me. Why would you want to do that, give yourself a smaller chakra pool to work with? Assume you could learn every technique you wanted for 50 points per. You'd top out at what? 5-8k? That's a pittance, and somebody could simply overpower you with a generic Genjutsu, or a supercharged Rasengan, or a small squad of clones.
That being said, I know that there's more reason than that in conquering a village. it adds to the politics of the story, creating new alliances and rivalries. Toss in the Organization system, and we have the makings of an interesting set-up. But does it really need constant taking and re-taking of villages? That was what was bothering me when I had Teufel start looking for Kages to meet with. Rather than taking over their villages, why not simply make nice and create a partnership? They continue to run the village, but now there's a handy pile of plot hooks called international incidents. Or rather, if Teufel wants to be allied with Hidden Cloud, then she darned well better come to their aid if someone else tries to take over. And if she fails, then not only does she lose her alliance, but other villages would know she isn't a strong ally. Let's make that happen!
The alternative is similar to what Reaver said. Maybe Hedoro is getting tired of people changing who's in charge all the time. Maybe Hedoro will start attacking EVERYONE who tries to take a village over. Maybe Hedoro will break the system wide open because it amuses her.
But really, this is all a bit of a rant, and one not quite connected to the actual issue. What I wanted to talk about was the actual conquering of villages. I thought that, to conquer a village, you needed four characters, with a combined total of more than 100k, from more than one player? That last part is what's important. unless we got rid of that clause with a recent update, it seems lots of people have been ignoring that. That clause isn't important for destroying villages, because power is power. But actually conquering and maintaining a village should need numbers, too. (Personally, I think the numbers could stand to be increased, with a clause that at least one person needs to check in with the village every week to maintain their hold on it, as well as to meet any challengers. But that's just me.)
So yes, I think conquering villages is a bit of a twitch in the system. Considering our characters are supposed to be ninjas, shouldn't we focus on good old assassinations and reconnaissance, and leave stuff like that to he generals?
Just my thoughts on the matter. /rant
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In other news, I did try Shingeki no Kyojin/Attack on Titan. It's not bad, and at least better than the manga version when I tried it. Overall, though, they make eating people look less dignified than it could be. Haha. That being said, I'd just as soon watch Yuyushiki, truth be told. Still, not a bad series.
Yeah but Kage/Sannin are a different story now is it? Although it think in this guild the whole one man army is simply OP... There should be others helping the attack just as the rule say... No matter the rank, one person at least when its kage or sannin
Hell i plan on attacking *Hidden Village Name here* i still want to have a couple of pals with me... Even though i plan on doing more than just conquering... But thats another story altogether and i still need to recreate my plan.
Either way i think the user who wants to attack should contact a mod before doing so, thorough checking to see if the user meets the requirements like the number of members in the group and the amount of chakra and what they plan to do with the village if the attack is successful... And maybe a nice boss battle like battle (I think we have that) With a kage or leader. NPC or User Boss, NPC is Mod controlled and User is well User Controlled...
But this is just me giving ideas, i don't know what goes on behind the mod forum.
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:11 pm
I get it. I understand. It's hard to stop talking about it. But the air vent was just so warm... he didn't know it would surge up and lift up his skirt! Wait, Drago would never wear a skirt? So then you all are talking about the quitting. I know this should end but I kinda wanna say something. Just pull that piece of tape off of my arm real slow like. So here it is:
Tch. I love Drago's roleplaying. I'm not going to lie. I always thought it was damn cute when he roleplayed with new members and made them feel comfortable. I would just sit there staring at his first post to them and say how cool Drago lovey-lovey was. I respect him in the guild because he's not just some guy that has a guild. He puts a ton of hard work into maintaining it and when he asks for new members he's always ready and willing to tend to them no matter how many there are. He's a hefty part of the reason why I, personally, am in this guild to begin with. Yeah, I should have posted this around the big birthday bash and yeah I'm probably just droning on about something that's 'not real' as many people try to 'remind' me, but hey. Drago's not just some guy I met online, he's my friend. A damn good friend too. So at first I was annoyed, not exactly at anyone, and was thinking about going out in a blind fury. Just go and destroy the Afterlife then destroy villages and kill people making it so they couldn't reincarnate. How can you come back if the Afterlife has been destroyed, aye? And whenever I would be halted by someone formidable then I'd just use another character to keep attacking and have that one fight to the death until I ran out of pieces to play.
The whole thing would eat me up because I don't like fighting others partly because I don't want to destroy what they made. But the mods would pull together and restore things so it wouldn't matter. And I don't care to take people's stuff so I'd give it back once the mods made magic and let people reincarnate with no penalty or something. It would have just been my tantrum and a gloriously stupid tantrum at that. But then that voice told me not to. He said don't do that. And that's all that voice had to say and I said to screw it and wait until Drago comes back. I'll wait in the guild for him and then when he does return then I'll be there and happy. So after all of that stuff going through my head I sighed and figured Drago is Drago. If Drago wants to quit rping then he can and I'll accept it. If Drago wants to delete the guild then he can and I'll accept it. If Drago never wants to come back to this guild again then he can and I'll accept it. I'll grit my teeth and take it cause he gave me this guild in the first place. High School was crazy but I remember just sitting at the computer skipping lunch just to come to the guild. This guild was the only thing that I liked then and I wasn't even doing anything I couldn't do somewhere else.
But somehow no where else is the same. So I owe him for giving me a place to entertain me because I adore being entertained. And that means even if I'm pissed or want to follow after him and quit rping too, I won't. I'll just wait for him. This guild is just a guild to most and Drago's just some guy, but don't make me laugh if you think that's the same for me no matter how much of a geek or nerd or whatever that might make me look like. I've been here long enough to not really care and to be used to people not getting where I'm coming from so meh. Blaming RLRLR or anyone else for him leaving isn't going to make him come back so I hold no blame. It doesn't matter why he left for me now, it just matters that I want him to come back. So if you want him back then let's urge him to come back by showing him what he's missing. Let's act like we just spent our last phuck and just go ham on this roleplay thing. Do something that'll make him want to come back not remind him why he left. Even if that means going back to the days of running politics with the villages or having a great threat like Hedoro and Dylan looming over our heads.
And so ends my little rant that I'll probably be embarrassed for posting but whatever. Might even get some misunderstandings too. But you guys can go about things however you want. I personally am going to try and cause a bit of mischief myself but just not to the extreme I was thinking. Maybe attack a few villages or try and make interesting rp posts. Might even go up against impossible odds and see if it peeks his interest. Just so you guys know if you even care though... If Dylan goes evil and starts making dark posts I am going to be sooooo giddy. His truly dark posts are the best. They make me want to be a fan girl of his... BUT I WON'T! He's my rival and I can't be a rival and a fan girl. It's conflict of interests. So my only choices would be to oppose him or to fight Hedoro... and lose. ._. I mean and win! So as to prove my worth as his rival~. But if Hedoro starts getting super serious then I will have no choice but to fan girl over her and fight her just so I can be fuel for Hedoro's fire. The two of them just make me anxious and that makes me excited. I only mention them because they both mentioned going into action. There are other's here that I admire as well. I mean... RIVAL!
Dylan | If you went back to your old antics I think I'd be in trouble. Just because I've been wanting you to be evil and do dark posts and things but didn't want to ask, "So would ja?"
ACM | Honestly when the SCM was taking over villages it was just because no one was trying to stop them. And the only organization back then that would was the AM and they were too cool to waste their time with SCM. SCM-chan just wanted AM-kun to punish them but they didn't so SCM-chan just kept freakin going. Then they finally did and it was a delicious punishment but my items made the whole punishment not as pleasurable and then the year ended and then the labels got removed and then the organizations bleeeeeeeeh-- Trailed off too hard. Anyway, when we took over villages we tended to defend them the best we could afterwards. It just made sense since the basis behind the takeovers for my rpcs was lulling the villages into a false sense of security. Then, once I would have eventually trained up the SCM leader (Never did because she annoyed me. Lol.), I would have destroyed all the villages I could before someone stopped me. Which, in irony, would split the organization almost clean down the middle and have internal conflict because some characters were good and some were evil. I was a very bored child back then and needed to slap my characters around to be amused I s'pose (Still do~.).
-shrugs- But back then it was always a matter of defend what's mine especially so Dylan wouldn't get too far ahead of me. MY RIVAL! But now I've mellowed out... <.< But I would still like for ze punishment, pwease. emotion_kirakira
Hedoro | Realistic Politics O Rama, aye? I get what you're saying. It would be nice to have conditions for keeping a village under one's control. Otherwise it wouldn't really be taking over, now would it. I think I only ever did a good job with that when I had control over Hidden Fragment and Flame. I fought to defend it against Crius and wound up losing Flame but saving the people and losing parts of Fragment and the people but saving the rest. Fragment didn't count really because the reason I was defending it in all reality was because GeininX was there. After all, at the moment if the village is destroyed then so is GeininX since he's trapped inside of it. -grins- I was going to keep that a secret but he's being npc'd after we finish up in Fragment anyway so it don't matta. Anyhow, yeah. Maybe something can be discussed regarding that amongst the mods because you provide a valid point.
I would also like to see something added into the take over rules that allow for internal taking over. Just like if there is no acting Kage or someone wants to become the next Kage and the current has been inactive for forever. But that's a side thought since I like what happened with the Kage attacks. Maybe group village meetings to establish new Kage's would be more fun? Well, some food for thought I suppose. But now you're making me want to start messing around with politics in the guild. -figures-
As far as the rules for taking and retaking villages a group of four only need to have a combined chakra pool of 100k according to the rules and anyone with three or fewer needs a combined chakra total of 300k. If alone then you must have 300k chakra points. There's no real standard on what each rpc should have at minimum for chakra. I personally think there should be a limit though for non groups but that's just my personal opinion. Sometimes chakra doesn't determine a victory or else I would think there should be a minimum chakra amount for each member of the group. That's if they aren't a member of an organization and it's not war time. Now last year someone could have taken over villages at a weaker level, as unrealistic as that would be for them to pull off, but this year's theme is peace of sorts.
D. Rider | Well chakra determines who can and who cannot take over a village. Even a Sannin has to be over 300k in order to take over a village as far as the guild rules go, anyway. And while having boss battles or contacting a mod each time taking over is a good idea, I'd rather members take it upon themselves when taking over villages. Members should defend their villages or Kage's should defend their own villages. If they don't have members or a Kage then it's up to members to defend that village. Now there should be conditions for taking and keeping a village but the whole process should be done and handled member to member. But that is also something that the mods can talk about and see what mod thinks it would be beneficial to use mod npcs.
Edit:: -panics- I should just remove this. emotion_facepalm
That's pretty much how I feel about Drago too. And dark posts? Kill everything? Well if you insist...
Speaking of posting, I got distracted by all the made ups I had thought up, and never got to that post of your's, Kelli! gonk
Going to go work on that right now, since I have the time. And batman is on, but not with the joker. So it isn't as exciting. I never found the Penguin to be that much of a threat towards him. He's kinda lame seeming. haha
Hedoro:: You're right though. If I'm still a mod come the december/january season when we do the yearly time skip. I think we should implement some changes to things like the takeover of villages and such. Since it is a little skeptical, and I still want to see village alliances and other such things come into be.
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:50 pm
Yeah, people acknowledged my ideas! Haha, have I really fallen that far? Ah well, it's a fun trip. But really, Yay for Politics! Viva la Política! Banzai no Seiryaku!
Grimettsura- I read the spoiler'd text. I only have this to say in regards to that. You're saying 'going ham' too? Another person using a new slang phrase that I've seen but do not comprehend? Why do fleshlings confound me with their odd wordy word phrases!?
Dylan | You... You do understand me. -eyes sparkle a moment before nudging you- Heh. He's got that effect on people I guess. Drago is teh awesomez.
Dark posts: yes, yes please... yes. 3nodding
And psh. You can reply whenever cause there's no rush on Grass. I did forget my plan for why I had Olin go down though. o.o Well he's boned. Lol.
Penguin has no real impact like other villains. I always saw him as just a bad guy that was too weird to clump in with regular guys that do bad things.
Hedoro | -blushes- Uh, well, it sort of just appeared in the text. I normally don't say that. Just cause the last time I did my friends called me cute and laughed. v.v
D. Rider | Hmn? Ah yeah. I did change my name while you were away, didn't I? -bonks self on head- You were probably like, "Who's this n00b think she is just dropping in all of a sudden and talking about shizz?". Ha... ha ha ha. Hey yo D. Rider. Glad to see you back around, by the way; t's been a while. Speaking of, I need to fulfill some punishment administered to me and could use your help. Is your rpc busy at the moment?
Hidden Mist is turning into the place to be. This is getting so intense. I think that if things get anymore exciting I just might catch a nosebleed. No joke, a real nosebleed from being too worked up. I mean, I'm so hyped off this turn of events right now. I sure hope I don't end up getting my butt handed to me too bad too soon. I wanna last through this thing cause something is definitely coming to life here. rofl
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:34 pm
Shikamettsura
New Grim my character is free as off Drago's sudden RP char quit...
No plans and no nothing... Anyway my character is only 11k i still have to rp him but i can always help. What is it did you do or need?
D. Rider | Mah, mah. You can call me Grim still if you want. Shikamettsura (しかめっ面) means Grimace so it's pretty much the same as calling me Shika. And, well, I want to entertain the both of you I guess. cat_redface I can't really say too much more than that. So I wanted your rpc and my rpc Render [Orimara] to meet somewhere and to type a post for the two of you to enjoy. Then after that, if you wanted, we could rp together further?
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:51 pm
Shikamettsura
ShikaGrim
Yeah sure, don't really know what your planning but yeah sure go ahead (I also plan on killing this guy anyway so if something fun happens he atleast had some fun... You can also have him meet the same character when he comes back to life. Oh the fun)
D. Rider | It's not anything like that. I promise it has no ill effects involving anyone. If it did I would tell you straight out. I just can't go into detail. So then where is he at so I can go there and meet him or it doesn't matter? -thinks- I'll quote you too now.
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:05 pm
Shikamettsura
ShikaGrim: Doesn't matter, i'm not anywhere, he already graduated and not a single post *facepalm* Its up to you, so don't worry about the location
*Clicks Render's photo in your profiles*
Holy Cra-
Well she's pretty unfortunately i already have a love interest for him which he will meet in a near future. Still i wonder what your planning...
D. Rider | I'll quote you once I post then. And I doubt he'd be interested in someone like Render cause she's like super goody goody. She'd be no fun I'd think. And he has an interest already, aye? That's, well, interesting. I wonder who it is. -ponders-
