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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:09 pm


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I'm not too far from OSU's level, sadly. Though there ARE ways to dodge my attacks if you're creative.

But one thing I will argue is that my powered up flames should melt Hyoton ice much more quickly than even an S-ranked flame attack. With the increases in power I have in them, on top of my being both the host of the fire angel and the fire sage....I don't think Ice would fare very well against heat of that caliber, even if it's Hyoton.


As long as your Fire Jutsu Ranks above the Ice Techniques then its fine.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:10 pm


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Seibei no Shinigami kills anyone 2 ranks below.

Genjutsu class +1, I think?
Gensou +1
Curse mark stage 2 +2

SSSSS ranked.

Auto death to anyone who ever looks at you. And you wanted a genjutsu sage because you could autokill anyone without handsigns.

Is Crystal Ice Mirrors still overpowered?
Btw, I saw the sun in a reflection, and my eyes didn't sting at all. Also, if you look at the sun through your car windows, it doesn't affect you. So would it affect me through Crystal Ice Mirrors?


I actually changed the calculator a bit...

The Genjutsu Calculator V4

Original Idea by Official Sasuke Uchiha
Collaboration of Dark-Ninja70 and Official Sasuke Uchiha
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Offense:
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User's Rank:

Academy Student: 2
Genin: 4
Chunin: 6
Jounin: 8
S/Sannin/Kage: 10

Rank of Jutsu:
E- 2
D- 4
C- 6
B- 8
A- 10
S- 12

Class of User:
-Genjutsu user = +6
-Assassin Class = +4
-Free Lancer Class = +2
-Ninjutsu Class = +2
-Puppetry Class = +2
-Bounty Hunter Class = (Depends on Class Being Used)
-Medical Class = -4
-Taijutsu Class = -4
-Samurai Class = -4
-Weapon Master class = -4
-Animal Tamer Class = -6
-Android Class = -6

Currently Activated Bloodlines of User:
-Kurama Clan Kekkei Genkai - +10
-Ranmaru's Kekkei Genkai Stage 2 = +8
-Madara's Eternal Magenkyou Sharingan = +6
-Ranmaru's Kekkei Genkai Stage 1 = +6
-Itachi's Mangekyou Sharingan = +4
-Mist Byakugan = +4
-Bloodline Crusher = +4
-Other Mangekyou Sharingans = +2
-Neo Byakugan / Byakugan = +2
-Three Tomoe Sharingan = +2
-Axiom Bloodline = +2
-Koudo Megutushi = 0
-Hadou Rokudaime Kenshutsu = 0
-Karada no Ken = -4

NOTE: Implants all have a -1 point drag factor on their positive effects ( Ranmaru Stage Two implant = +7 not +8 )

Clan of the User:
Gensou Goshuujin Clan = +6
Inuzaka = 0
Itsumademo Youji Clan (Forever Child) = +2
Joukai Clan = +2
Moriiumu = +2
Kamisama = +2
Hakemoto Clan = -4

Other:
-Genjutsu Curse mark Stage 1 = +6
-Genjutsu Curse Mark Stage 2 = +8

-----------------------------------------------------------

Defense:

User's Rank:

Academy Student: 2
Genin: 4
Chunin: 6
Jounin: 8
S/Sannin/Kage: 10

Counter Tactic:
Sharingan = [Eternal = +4 / Mangekyou +3 / 3 Tomoe +2] (May "Recognize" it)
Kai-Release = +3
Teammate Kai-Release = +4
Reversal (Sharingan User's Only) = [Eternal +6 / Mangekyou +5 / 3 Tomoe +4]
Physical Pain = [Stab wound +6 / Deep Cut + 4 / Small Cut +2]
Neo-Byakugan = +6

NOTE: Some may or may not be applicable as it is dependent of the genjutsu being used.

Class of User:
-Genjutsu user = +6
-Medical Class = +4
-Free Lancer Class = +4
-Assassin Class = +4
-Ninjutsu Class = +2
-Puppetry Class = +2
-Animal Tamer Class = +2
-Bounty Hunter Class = 0 (Can change depending on class used)
-Taijutsu Class = -4
-Samurai Class = -4
-Weapon Master class = -4
-Android Class = 0 (Only affected by sound-based genjutsu)

Currently Activated Bloodlines of User:
-Kurama Clan Kekki Genkai = +10
-Ranmaru's Kekkei Genkai Stage 2 = +8
-Madara's Eternal Magenkyou Sharingan = +6
-Ranmaru's Kekkei Genkai Stage 1 = +6
-Itachi's Mangekyou Sharingan = +4
-Mist Byakugan = +4
-Bloodline Crusher = +4
-Other Mangekyou Sharingans = +2
-Neo Byakugan / Byakugan = +2
-Three Tomoe Sharingan = +2
-Axiom Bloodline = +2
-Koudo Megutushi = -6
-Hadou Rokudaime Kenshutsu = +8
-Karada no Ken = -4
NOTE: Implants all have a -1 point drag factor on their positive effects ( Ranmaru Stage Two implant = +7 not +8 )

Clan of the User:
Hakemoto Clan = +8
Gensou Goshuujin Clan = +6
Inuzaka = +4
Dragconic -= +2
Itsumademo Youji Clan (Forever Child) = +2
Joukai Clan = +2
Moriiumu = +2
Kamisama = +2

Other:
-Genjutsu Curse mark Stage 1 = +6
-Genjutsu Curse Mark Stage 2 = +8

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:14 pm


And not only that, OSU, but my really, EXTREMELY powerful fire jutsu require at least a post to charge, a time in which an attack could get to me given the proper planning. These powerful attacks also render my arm(s) useless for three posts. Actually, my strongest fire technique disables my entire body for one post, meaning that anyone could auto-hit me, and then the arm that used the technique is unusable for the duration of the battle, so I DO have drawbacks for my techniques.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:16 pm


Digitality
I'm not too far from OSU's level, sadly. Though there ARE ways to dodge my attacks if you're creative.

But one thing I will argue is that my powered up flames should melt Hyoton ice much more quickly than even an S-ranked flame attack. With the increases in power I have in them, on top of my being both the host of the fire angel and the fire sage....I don't think Ice would fare very well against heat of that caliber, even if it's Hyoton.

And by the way, OSU, get your facts straight. My strongest is an 8S equivalent, though, unlike you, my character would go into a coma and near-death state as a result of using a technique THAT powerful. (One month IRL minimum.)



I couldn't avoid them... Also have you seen how many people just type s**t like "He looked away as soon as the handseals were formed" then they follow up with some sorf of attack that is supposed it hit even if they can't see me...

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:17 pm


I'm going to assume that 5S equivalent strength equals 20 points for this calculation.

Chuunin = 6
5S rank equivalent = 20
Genjutsu Class = 6
Three tomoe/Ranmaru stage one implant = 7
Gensou Goshuujin Clan = 6
Genjutsu curse mark stage 2 = 8

So...with all your increases, your Genjutsu score as a Chuunin is 53. When you're a Kage/Sannin, it will be 57.

No one will ever be able to break out of your genjutsu, and they can trigger it by looking anywhere at your body, so don't you start calling ME cheap, mister.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:19 pm


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Digitality
I'm not too far from OSU's level, sadly. Though there ARE ways to dodge my attacks if you're creative.

But one thing I will argue is that my powered up flames should melt Hyoton ice much more quickly than even an S-ranked flame attack. With the increases in power I have in them, on top of my being both the host of the fire angel and the fire sage....I don't think Ice would fare very well against heat of that caliber, even if it's Hyoton.

And by the way, OSU, get your facts straight. My strongest is an 8S equivalent, though, unlike you, my character would go into a coma and near-death state as a result of using a technique THAT powerful. (One month IRL minimum.)



I couldn't avoid them... Also have you seen how many people just type s**t like "He looked away as soon as the handseals were formed" then they follow up with some sorf of attack that is supposed it hit even if they can't see me...

Then it's your fault for making such a heavily Genjutsu based character. Learn to work around your weaknesses even a little bit, and it'll help you a lot. Besides, with how cheap your genjutsu is going to be later, the person fighting you will barely have a chance to attack before you pull the typical "Lyke OMG, I haz UBER GENJUTSU PWER!" And force them into a Genjutsu the second they look at your body, cheaply killing them with the Death God Genjutsu.

Though there isn't much I can do about my raging weakness for water....DX

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:19 pm


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The Fall is Inevitable
Seibei no Shinigami kills anyone 2 ranks below.

Genjutsu class +1, I think?
Gensou +1
Curse mark stage 2 +2

SSSSS ranked.

Auto death to anyone who ever looks at you. And you wanted a genjutsu sage because you could autokill anyone without handsigns.

Is Crystal Ice Mirrors still overpowered?
Btw, I saw the sun in a reflection, and my eyes didn't sting at all. Also, if you look at the sun through your car windows, it doesn't affect you. So would it affect me through Crystal Ice Mirrors?


I actually changed the calculator a bit...

The Genjutsu Calculator V4

Original Idea by Official Sasuke Uchiha
Collaboration of Dark-Ninja70 and Official Sasuke Uchiha
----------------------------------------------

Offense:
---------------------
User's Rank:

Academy Student: 2
Genin: 4
Chunin: 6
Jounin: 8
S/Sannin/Kage: 10

Rank of Jutsu:
E- 2
D- 4
C- 6
B- 8
A- 10
S- 12

Class of User:
-Genjutsu user = +6
-Assassin Class = +4
-Free Lancer Class = +2
-Ninjutsu Class = +2
-Puppetry Class = +2
-Bounty Hunter Class = (Depends on Class Being Used)
-Medical Class = -4
-Taijutsu Class = -4
-Samurai Class = -4
-Weapon Master class = -4
-Animal Tamer Class = -6
-Android Class = -6

Currently Activated Bloodlines of User:
-Kurama Clan Kekkei Genkai - +10
-Ranmaru's Kekkei Genkai Stage 2 = +8
-Madara's Eternal Magenkyou Sharingan = +6
-Ranmaru's Kekkei Genkai Stage 1 = +6
-Itachi's Mangekyou Sharingan = +4
-Mist Byakugan = +4
-Bloodline Crusher = +4
-Other Mangekyou Sharingans = +2
-Neo Byakugan / Byakugan = +2
-Three Tomoe Sharingan = +2
-Axiom Bloodline = +2
-Koudo Megutushi = 0
-Hadou Rokudaime Kenshutsu = 0
-Karada no Ken = -4

NOTE: Implants all have a -1 point drag factor on their positive effects ( Ranmaru Stage Two implant = +7 not +8 )

Clan of the User:
Gensou Goshuujin Clan = +6
Inuzaka = 0
Itsumademo Youji Clan (Forever Child) = +2
Joukai Clan = +2
Moriiumu = +2
Kamisama = +2
Hakemoto Clan = -4

Other:
-Genjutsu Curse mark Stage 1 = +6
-Genjutsu Curse Mark Stage 2 = +8

-----------------------------------------------------------

Defense:

User's Rank:

Academy Student: 2
Genin: 4
Chunin: 6
Jounin: 8
S/Sannin/Kage: 10

Counter Tactic:
Sharingan = [Eternal = +4 / Mangekyou +3 / 3 Tomoe +2] (May "Recognize" it)
Kai-Release = +3
Teammate Kai-Release = +4
Reversal (Sharingan User's Only) = [Eternal +6 / Mangekyou +5 / 3 Tomoe +4]
Physical Pain = [Stab wound +6 / Deep Cut + 4 / Small Cut +2]
Neo-Byakugan = +6

NOTE: Some may or may not be applicable as it is dependent of the genjutsu being used.

Class of User:
-Genjutsu user = +6
-Medical Class = +4
-Free Lancer Class = +4
-Assassin Class = +4
-Ninjutsu Class = +2
-Puppetry Class = +2
-Animal Tamer Class = +2
-Bounty Hunter Class = 0 (Can change depending on class used)
-Taijutsu Class = -4
-Samurai Class = -4
-Weapon Master class = -4
-Android Class = 0 (Only affected by sound-based genjutsu)

Currently Activated Bloodlines of User:
-Kurama Clan Kekki Genkai = +10
-Ranmaru's Kekkei Genkai Stage 2 = +8
-Madara's Eternal Magenkyou Sharingan = +6
-Ranmaru's Kekkei Genkai Stage 1 = +6
-Itachi's Mangekyou Sharingan = +4
-Mist Byakugan = +4
-Bloodline Crusher = +4
-Other Mangekyou Sharingans = +2
-Neo Byakugan / Byakugan = +2
-Three Tomoe Sharingan = +2
-Axiom Bloodline = +2
-Koudo Megutushi = -6
-Hadou Rokudaime Kenshutsu = +8
-Karada no Ken = -4
NOTE: Implants all have a -1 point drag factor on their positive effects ( Ranmaru Stage Two implant = +7 not +8 )

Clan of the User:
Hakemoto Clan = +8
Gensou Goshuujin Clan = +6
Inuzaka = +4
Dragconic -= +2
Itsumademo Youji Clan (Forever Child) = +2
Joukai Clan = +2
Moriiumu = +2
Kamisama = +2

Other:
-Genjutsu Curse mark Stage 1 = +6
-Genjutsu Curse Mark Stage 2 = +8



So can you finally tell me why Inuzaka has a boost?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:21 pm


Dark, this calculator needs a serious nerf... NOW.

Noone in the whole Naruto world EXCEPT genjutsu users will have more pts than a genjutsu user! You need to make it more fair.
Also, Dragconic should have more points. 2 Is retarded, I say 5 or 6, they have the same ability as Ranmaru's, they can see through it. And in dragon form, it should be 7 or 8, cause their senses are enhanced.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:22 pm


Hey why do medics get a -4.... sakura was a medic and she was super good at getting out of them, how does that make sense?

EDIT- nvm thats for offense, but it still think its a little low.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:22 pm


Digitality
I'm going to assume that 5S equivalent strength equals 20 points for this calculation.

Chuunin = 6
5S rank equivalent = 20
Genjutsu Class = 6
Three tomoe/Ranmaru stage one implant = 7
Gensou Goshuujin Clan = 6
Genjutsu curse mark stage 2 = 8

So...with all your increases, your Genjutsu score as a Chuunin is 53. When you're a Kage/Sannin, it will be 57.

No one will ever be able to break out of your genjutsu, and they can trigger it by looking anywhere at your body, so don't you start calling ME cheap, mister.

Um no no....

Jounin - 8
Jutsu (S) - 12 [20]
Class - 6 [26]
Sharingan - 2 [28]
Ranmaru - 5 [33]
Clan - 6 [41]
Curse mark (stage 2) - 8 [49]

He has a 49 offense.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:23 pm


@Digi: Well at first i was going to go for a All Out Genjutsu Character, but i decided to add some diversity to him.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:24 pm


Oh and
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:25 pm


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Dark, this calculator needs a serious nerf... NOW.

Noone in the whole Naruto world EXCEPT genjutsu users will have more pts than a genjutsu user! You need to make it more fair.
Also, Dragconic should have more points. 2 Is retarded, I say 5 or 6, they have the same ability as Ranmaru's, they can see through it. And in dragon form, it should be 7 or 8, cause their senses are enhanced.
I said I updated it, never said it was perfect. I've done 4 versions but each one is lacking something and its getting quite annoying... stare

Also Dragconic isn't as good as ranmaru's they may be more aware than most people but genjutsu isn't their specialty.

@OSU: Inuzaka have really good smell and hearing and thus tricking their senses would be difficult.

Anyway the crew isn't helping much, only complaining so if you guys can give me good suggestions and not bash it I'd really appreciate it.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:26 pm


on the other hand if my genjutsu rpc gets to S rank he will have a 52 without the cursemark if i get him a ranmaru.

EDIT- i'd suggest -2 for medics offense wise.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:26 pm


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Digitality
I'm going to assume that 5S equivalent strength equals 20 points for this calculation.

Chuunin = 6
5S rank equivalent = 20
Genjutsu Class = 6
Three tomoe/Ranmaru stage one implant = 7
Gensou Goshuujin Clan = 6
Genjutsu curse mark stage 2 = 8

So...with all your increases, your Genjutsu score as a Chuunin is 53. When you're a Kage/Sannin, it will be 57.

No one will ever be able to break out of your genjutsu, and they can trigger it by looking anywhere at your body, so don't you start calling ME cheap, mister.

Um no no....

Jounin - 8
Jutsu (S) - 20
Class - 6
Sharingan - 2
Ranmaru - 5
Clan - 6
Curse mark (stage 2) - 8

He has a 55 offense.


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