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Sanguina Cruenta
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:44 pm


nathon Xplosion
im a norsemen


Just a note...

"Norseman" (you are one person, not many: please learn basic English before posting here for the ease of others) is a racial term. You might well be a Norseman, but the question is about your spiritual path. Appropriate terms here are "Norse/Nordic Pagan", "Heathen", "Asatruar", "Theodsman" etc, depending on your particular path.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:33 pm


Sanguina Cruenta
nathon Xplosion
im a norsemen


Just a note...

"Norseman" (you are one person, not many: please learn basic English before posting here for the ease of others) is a racial term. You might well be a Norseman, but the question is about your spiritual path. Appropriate terms here are "Norse/Nordic Pagan", "Heathen", "Asatruar", "Theodsman" etc, depending on your particular path.

I lol'd.

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GoddessAttuned

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:04 pm


What do you like to be called: Hecate, Hecky, Sarah, cheeks.
Interests: Writing, cultural history, alternative medicines and healing techniques, and kick boxing.
Religion: This is a hard thing for me, I don't usually class myself with religion, I'de be...roughly a Eclectic-Norse Pagan. Mostly Celtic shamanism and green witchcraft interwoven with a bit of other things woven in hete and there... I suppose.
How long have you been a (religion): Mm....Paganism? Well I was raised that way. Witch craft? About five years ( I am refering to the art of spell crafting ).
Random fact about yourself: I am a 5'2'', third generation scottish ball of fire.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:07 pm


iHecate
I'de be...roughly a Eclectic-Norse Pagan. Mostly Celtic shamanism and green witchcraft


Could you explain this a bit more? Do you mean you are a Northern Trad Pagan, or that you're an eclectic Pagan worshipping Norse gods? Or something else? In what way is your "shamanism" "Celtic"? If most of your practice is Celtic, how is it Norse?

Sanguina Cruenta
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Fairytale Endings

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 5:37 pm


What do you like to be called: Brittney
Interests: Singing, drawing, writing, dancing, music, reading,
Religion: Eclectic Pagan
How long have you been a (religion): About a year
Random fact about yourself: I live in Wisconsin and am 15. ^^  
PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 6:33 pm


Sanguina Cruenta
iHecate
I'de be...roughly a Eclectic-Norse Pagan. Mostly Celtic shamanism and green witchcraft


Could you explain this a bit more? Do you mean you are a Northern Trad Pagan, or that you're an eclectic Pagan worshipping Norse gods? Or something else? In what way is your "shamanism" "Celtic"? If most of your practice is Celtic, how is it Norse?


I follow the deity system of the norse traditions in which the "god" and "goddess" are not considered hierarchy in that sence they are refered to more of as a lord and a lady. That is why I am norse because my basic religious structure is of Norse traditions.
And honestly don't be so testy when you question me. If you have a question do not use quotes its considered to be sarcasm. And rather offensive.
Celtic Shamanism, is like any other shamanism in its right. But being celtic is makes its roots from Ireland and Scotland, which is my heritage. Like any other shamanistic culture celtic shamans work with protection of the soul, which is referred to extensively in Celtic literature as soul shrine. Celtic shamans accessed otherworld realms through journeying, dreams, and rituals that brought the practitioner to heightened awareness.
That is how it works.
Perhaps you missed me say I am an eclectic pagan, we are pagans who do not adhere to any given tradition and/or religion, but build our own religious world view out of pieces we have picked from different traditions and/or religions, adding to the mix - when we see a need - features we have developed on our own. Personally, I am an eclectic who does consider myself as belonging to a given pagan religion ( ie; Norse ), combine features from the different traditions of that religion, often adding also features derived from elsewhere.

I didn't know joining this guild ment being poked and porded at.

GoddessAttuned

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Sanguina Cruenta
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 11:00 pm


iHecate
I follow the deity system of the norse traditions in which the "god" and "goddess" are not considered hierarchy in that sence they are refered to more of as a lord and a lady.


...What? Which god and goddess? How is this specific to the Norse?

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That is why I am norse because my basic religious structure is of Norse traditions.


....I'm still not clear. What religious structure are you referring to here? The way you view deity? Can you explain this structure? I am interested.

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And honestly don't be so testy when you question me. If you have a question do not use quotes its considered to be sarcasm. And rather offensive.


It wasn't sarcasm, and I wasn't testy. I was asking honestly. The quotes were for clarification, and to avoid offense - shamanism is a Siberian spiritual tradition of world-travelling and I wanted to be clear that I was using the word anthropologically and/or incorrectly. "Celtic" is a very wide word and some find it offensive, again why I used it in inverted commas.

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Celtic Shamanism, is like any other shamanism in its right. But being celtic is makes its roots from Ireland and Scotland, which is my heritage. Like any other shamanistic culture celtic shamans work with protection of the soul, which is referred to extensively in Celtic literature as soul shrine. Celtic shamans accessed otherworld realms through journeying, dreams, and rituals that brought the practitioner to heightened awareness.
That is how it works.


I'm aware of the anthropological use of the word "shaman". I'm wondering what about your personal practice makes it "Celtic" rather than general, or eclectic, or personal - and why you use the word "Celtic" rather than one of a specific Tradition. Different Celtic cultures will have different traditions; which do you follow?

And don't they have a word for it? The Norse use the word "seidr" to refer to their tradition of "shamanism". I'm certain that if there's Celtic traditions, they would have their own name and title.

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Personally, I am an eclectic who does consider myself as belonging to a given pagan religion ( ie; Norse ), combine features from the different traditions of that religion, often adding also features derived from elsewhere.


But "Norse" is not a Pagan religion. Asatru is. Ford Sed is. Heathen technically isn't but could be if you stretch it. You can identify as a Norse Pagan, sure, but that's not a religion. Nothing wrong with that. Still not clear about what defines your religion as Norse, though, particularly since you identify strongly with "Celtic" "Shamanism".

I appreciate eclecticism and I'm not criticising that.

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I didn't know joining this guild ment being poked and porded at.


Did you not read the rules before you joined?
I had questions about your path, and asked them. I'm not poking or prodding, just asking clarification.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:01 pm


Norse paganism is specifically germanic, centering around the germanic tribes of the nordic countries. Commonly this Lord and Lady were, Freya and Freyr ( on an odd note they were brother and sister ) though loki, Tyr, Skadi, and Odin were also common patrons. The norse diety system is widely polythesist. And I am sorry I am not very clear in my typing here, I was never the best at collecting my thoughts. When I am religious structure, yes I am refering to the way they view their dieties and natural surroundings. The germanic people considered their deities as a " lord" and a "lady" not as an entity, but, as a person of a slightly higher class that could easily commune with.

Specifically .. well we have no real name for "shaman " it would be 'draoi' ( druid ) or perhaps 'midach' ( the healer ). I use the word " shaman " because it is the closest word to describe the spiritual people of the celtic regions, it may be to "in" or "hip" a word but is the best word I could use to describe it. I have no other would to describe it to other people.
Mmmmm. Yes I know it is not specifically pagan, but I call myself a norse -pagan simply because I use the norse religion as my spiritual foundation. I am not sure if that sounds off to you but in my head it makes sence.
And yes I read the rules I just hade no idea you would talk like that.

GoddessAttuned

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Underworld Priestess

PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 8:04 pm


What do you like to be called: Shan or Celtic
Interests: reading, writing and paranormal investigation
Religion: Egyptian Pagan
How long have you been a (religion): ten years or so
Random fact about yourself: I want to become a writer.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 8:12 pm


iHecate
Norse paganism is specifically germanic, centering around the germanic tribes of the nordic countries. Commonly this Lord and Lady were, Freya and Freyr ( on an odd note they were brother and sister ) though loki, Tyr, Skadi, and Odin were also common patrons. The norse diety system is widely polythesist. And I am sorry I am not very clear in my typing here, I was never the best at collecting my thoughts. When I am religious structure, yes I am refering to the way they view their dieties and natural surroundings. The germanic people considered their deities as a " lord" and a "lady" not as an entity, but, as a person of a slightly higher class that could easily commune with.

Could you provide some sort source or cite for the Germanic peoples viewing their deities as "lord" and "lady"?
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Specifically .. well we have no real name for "shaman " it would be 'draoi' ( druid ) or perhaps 'midach' ( the healer ). I use the word " shaman " because it is the closest word to describe the spiritual people of the celtic regions, it may be to "in" or "hip" a word but is the best word I could use to describe it. I have no other would to describe it to other people.

So you use it anthropologically. Glad that is cleared up 3nodding .
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Mmmmm. Yes I know it is not specifically pagan, but I call myself a norse -pagan simply because I use the norse religion as my spiritual foundation. I am not sure if that sounds off to you but in my head it makes sence.

But what parts of it do you use as your spiritual foundation? Do you honor the AEsir and Vanir? Do you offer to the land wights? Do you honor the noble dead? Saying you draw your spiritual foundations from the Norse pantheon is all well and good, but at the moment it seems like just an empty phrase.

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Sanguina Cruenta
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 11:00 pm


iHecate
Norse paganism is specifically germanic, centering around the germanic tribes of the nordic countries.


Hence the "Norse". Yes, we know. I was more curious... I mean

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Commonly this Lord and Lady were, Freya and Freyr


Freyr and Freyja mean Lord and Lady respectively. That's what their names translate to, yes. But they were hardly the only - or main - deities in the pantheon. I'm unsure really what you meant originally when you spoke of "the god and goddess" and how this relates here.... could you explain please?

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( on an odd note they were brother and sister )


Why is that an odd note?

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though loki, Tyr, Skadi, and Odin were also common patrons.


Were? Loki and Skadhi weren't. In fact there's dispute as to whether Loki was worshipped at all. Odinn was, and Thorr was. Tyr I have less knowledge of when it comes to ancient patronage, but I imagine he was more popular than Loki the eternal question and Skadhi the daughter of giants.

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The norse diety system is widely polythesist. And I am sorry I am not very clear in my typing here, I was never the best at collecting my thoughts.


Fair enough. You may find it easier to break up the post you're answering - it absolutely helps me collect my thoughts and may help you also.

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When I am religious structure, yes I am refering to the way they view their dieties and natural surroundings. The germanic people considered their deities as a " lord" and a "lady" not as an entity, but, as a person of a slightly higher class that could easily commune with.


Not as an entity? You mean they didn't think they were real?
I'm unsure how often kennings like "lord" were used for deities in general. They're certainly used nowadays but then, well, individual deities generally have enough titles of their own that "lord" was a bit unnecessary. "Most High", for example.

What distinguishes religious structure of the Norse as opposed to, say, Hellenic or Slavic systems to the extent that identification with said structure leads you to take the "title" of "norse pagan"?

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Specifically .. well we have no real name for "shaman " it would be 'draoi' ( druid ) or perhaps 'midach' ( the healer ).


I know the Irish have no term for "witch", but surely there is a relevant name for this practice or tradition? "Druid" wouldn't be right, considering it was a caste... Which Celtic culture are you speaking of? As I asked before, what about your practice makes it "Celtic"?

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I use the word " shaman " because it is the closest word to describe the spiritual people of the celtic regions,


The spiritual people of the Celtic regions? Which Celtic region in particular? I know two Celtic Pagans, both Gael, and neither of them use the term "shaman" or describe their spiritual people in similar fashion. Perhaps their practice is different?

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Mmmmm. Yes I know it is not specifically pagan, but I call myself a norse -pagan simply because I use the norse religion as my spiritual foundation.


In what sense? This is... odd, since your entire cosmology would be affected by your other-world travelling that you have previously described as "Celtic". How do the Norse and "Celtic" cosmologies mesh to the extent that you can identify primarily as a "Norse Pagan"?

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And yes I read the rules I just hade no idea you would talk like that.


Pardon. We can come off as blunt; it's usually unintentional. I'll try to tone it down.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:57 pm


What do you like to be called: Fraulein, if you please. c:
Interests: Fantasy fiction (reading/writing), roleplaying, Farmville (Facebook game app), visiting natural places (i.e. parks, beaches, mountains... deserts, not so much x_x), my boyfriend 6:
Religion: Solitary Eclectic Neo-Paganism
How long have you been an Eclectic Neo-Pagan?: Well, I was first introduced to it by friends in middle school while still a Christian, and I've had off-and-on interest in it for a long time. But I've been actively studying for a few months now, seeing where it leads me. Other than that, I've been without religion.
Random fact about yourself: I really want to move to Louisiana with one of my good friends; her teacher/Priestess is also there and has a community coven for all under the neo-pagan umbrella.

Fraulein von Vermilion


Underworld Priestess

PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:38 am


@ iHecate
and the poked and prodded part.

Honestly, after reading everything that was said, I believe that they are asking reasonably questions. There are other guilds around here that would be a lot less reasonable and down right rude. I have been in them and quit.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:29 pm


celticfireguardian
@ iHecate
and the poked and prodded part.

Honestly, after reading everything that was said, I believe that they are asking reasonably questions. There are other guilds around here that would be a lot less reasonable and down right rude. I have been in them and quit.


^_^

Vi and I are both Norse Pagans. Germanic cultures are open, but we still take it seriously when someone identifies with the term. The assumption is that you worship Nordic gods, that you incorporate the Nine Worlds into your cosmology to some degree, that you respect the ancestors and land spirits even if you don't incorporate them into your active practice. You should understand the culture so that you're not taking these elements from their proper context and misunderstanding them.

There's no requirement to be Recon to use the word "Norse", but it should be.... y'know, Norse wink

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Kararismatic

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:27 am


Hi everyone and well meet.
What to call me well Kara is fine.
Im a fourth generation Witch and second generation Shaman so its a lil strange mix.
I was born this way so have been practicing my whole life.
Im a artist by trade and specialize in equine art. I also do many other crafts such as quilting, candlemaking crochet, cook, read, many other things but dont wanna bore ya.
I also use to train and show horses. Seems I have a special talent with animals. I have a strong drawing to the wolf as this is my spirit guardians choice to been seen in.
well guess thats about all for now drop me a line if you so like.
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