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 Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:29 pm
jashu555 [.-Forsaken-.] jashu555 klamachpin The problem that I would have with this whole thing is a simple one if you thing about it. They are corpses and they will not have strong enough chakara on there own. You would have to give them some of your chakara for them to be able to do what they are going. Damian is right that you would have to weaken yourself to be able to have the corpses act the way they are in this fight. Yes, but only when I used a jutsu. It didn't split my chakra like a bunshin does. Slicing your chakra into fractions. They can move without chakra, because the initial animation gets their heart pumping, and runs the body once again at my will. So your saying that you don't use any chakra to make them equal strength with you? Cause I don't believe that three clones can have exactly the same amount of chakra as you without you putting energy into them. stare You'd better be glad that I am not the leader of this guild, if I saw this I would have booted you. Anyone who has seen the first 10 episodes of Naruto can tell you I'm right. Just like everyone in my private message box is flooding in with at the moment. Ugh... Alright let me put it plain and simple for you. The one that approached you at the beginning were Shikon, the other two that joined him were shikon. The fourth that appeared was real. The three shikon have the same amount of chakra, the fourth is me, and has a lot more. The three have the same because they had they same technique used to activate them. The first that approached wasn't a Shikon, you said you approached me in your intro. You can't change that. You said that NOVA approached me. Quit trying to change things around to make yourself right. Better yet, quit talking to me, or I'll make it my business to make sure you fail the Chuunin exams, and yes I can. Cause I could coach the people on how to kill you. So leave me alone unless you should face me in the Chuunin exams, cause you really don't deserve it. I really hope you face me in the exams though, cause then I have a license to kill you, which I won't faulter to do. Cause Makura won't lose, and if he doesn't kill you then there will be Makura, Me and Sage whom would gladly have you dead. So just leave me alone and let your silly mistake quit pestering you. I'm currently trying to have a decent conversation so go.
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:36 pm
So, your saying when I approach you, I'm supposed to say straight out for our roleplay that, "Nova's Shikon No Jutsu Approached Damian."
I didn't use the word figure when he approached, because we were working out the battle scenario. You keep saying that I made a mistake, but I didn't. You assume that everything you say is right, and everything I say is wrong. I'm not pestering you, your pestering me by trying to make me look like a fool in front of the guild. I don't care, come after me for all I care. I can retreat, or I can fight each one of you one at a time. I have options, I don't care if you guys come after me.. Because, NEWSFLASH, its a roleplay.
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:38 pm
jashu555 Anything else about my technique you'd like to question? It'll be more civilized if you will just ask me what parts that you are against or dont get so I can answer them one by one. Forget about it I am not going to say anything else about the spar since it has ended. I think that "Drago_the_Blackrose" or "RyoRin" will have to get in this to make the technique clear on the strenght of the reanimated corpses chakara.
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:43 pm
Damian.. you keep thinking that when I say I made their chakra equal, that I made them equal to the original Nova's strength. I made them equal to each other's strength. Meaning all 3 Shikons have the same strength as each other. Not the same as the original Nova.
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:45 pm
Your threatening to hack my account? O_O?!
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:50 pm
Quote: Nova left the ninja's company after he was informed of his need to do various errands. From there, he bolted from tree to tree, making the lush green leafs rustle and spiral downwards to the fertile soil. With his speed, the air currents brought under him made the leaves blend in with the lush flower petals fluttering from the gardens below him. The bountiful flowers beauty was intruiging, and their appealing aura of scent would stray any nose to them in linger. His boredom consumed the mind, and made him decide to scout the area from a highland prospective. Working his way up the bark of his current tree with his Tree Climbing ability, he viewed down at his surroundings. There, he saw two ninja in the distance whom looked familiar to him. After pondering it for a bit, his memory recall told him it was from the Konoha Invasion. They had also fought against Oroichimaru's underlings like himself. Recognizing one as a Hyuuga, he knew that his presence had probably already been establish. This led him to come approach the others and consult in whatever training they may be engaged in. I may be just stupid, but doesn't that say NOVA, approached them? Cause..... I believe it does. neutral
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:02 pm
I explained that in the previous post, well.. two before the one stating that your threatening to hack me.
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:40 pm
I've read a few of you guys posts in this argument and I just couldn't help but try to resolve this.
Shikon no jutsu appears to be ninjutsu where the user makes a living corpse able to move once more. Now in order to do this one must place chakra within it. In order to make it move, you must apply chakra to each and every limb and muscle to completely control it. Since each one has a limited amount of chakra within their body, molding chakra would be impossible. It would be impossible for them to mold chakra for this reason and the fact that they do not posses chakra circulatory systems. Not a single human alive[in the Naruto Universe], may create a chakra circulatory system. It's the same thing as creating life. So in a sense, Shikon are not able to perform jutsu.
Damian, however, will be able to tell the difference between Nova and the animated corpses since he has the byakugan. Makura will not since he has the sharingan which enables him to see through genjutsu only. Damian can look at the corpse and see its circulatory system to tell if it is a living person[Nova] or the animated corpse. Now I don't know how the battle progressed or came about, but Damian will be able to tell the difference because he does have the fully mastered Byakugan.
Now to talk about the chakra supply. When Nova placed his chakra into three corpses, he didn't need to apply half his chakra. He can apply very small amounts to keep them active. But with Nova's little chakra supply in comparison to Damian's, Nova will have at least half or a little less than half of his supply to maintain them in an active state[With each movement, a certain amount of chakra will be used. Unless Nova had a direct contact with the corpse, he cannot reapply his chakra to them. He may not want to loose all of his chakra trying to control these three corpses.] But Nova himself will need to have chakra to perform jutsu[I'm not saying that he did or not...]. Thus, at the beginning of the battle Nova had already loss a significant portion of his chakra, whilst[from what I can read from the previous OOC posts] Damian still has all of his chakra at his disposal.
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:59 pm
Thanks Makura, you've got most of what I'm trying to explain. But I still argue that dead bodies still have chakra circulatory systems. And that I can send chakra into them to do Jutsus because I can make them move in the same way. Though what puzzles me is that in the description of the skill, it says that the jutsu actually makes the heart start beating again, and thats what allows the body to move. Not control of the muscles with chakra. Damian, you have just threatened to hack me. Thats a serious offense right there... Heres a link saying what the Jutsu does: Linkie biggrin I admit one fault in what I did, and thats saying that Nova approached him. I just thought I wouldn't get into a tricky roleplay type posting mode until the criteria for the battle was set.
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:54 pm
Oh yes, a very serious offense. xd Thanks for reporting me. Now I'm even more mad then I was before, that was really smart. But alas, you aren't the brightest. That ******** Zero kid is going to get it before you though. Did you see what he wrote about me in the OOC sub-forum?
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:25 pm
I know that corpses, technically do have circulatory systems, it's just that they are not circulating. A life force is needed for them to circulate. But for the jutsu, you're chakra is the thing that makes it circulate. So if you are controlling them and making them use jutsu, it would take at least twice as much chakra to perform even a simple technique.
But after reading what the technique says it does, then all you are doing is making it's heartbeat and not making it's chakra circulate, thus they are not able to use jutsu. But changing the appearance of the body is simply an illusion. Also, Tenketsu are located around the pores of a living thing and so it is outside of their body.
BTW- I can't wait to fight you Jashu in the chuunin exams....
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:37 pm
I can't wait to fight you either Makura. It'll be a good match. We'll figure out about this jutsu after we gather more information about it. Seeing how its only used once by Kabuto, and was used to attempt killing Sasuke. But it was also used when Kabuto was using that genjutsu to knock out everyone in the arena. This technique is very difficult to use, and seeing how it doesn't explain how the body is controlled by the user, or how the chakra is expended its rather confusing for anyone to come to a correct answer. Everything that everyone has come up with is partially concluded off some information. The body is brought to life by the beating of the heart, but it doesn't say how the user controls the movements exactly. I'm just going to let the mods deal with this one while I find more information on it.
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:35 pm
Okay I am going to Resolve this.
I didn't read the post because its 11:30 and I am hungry. So I am going to put it plainly and simply for both of ******** argue in my boards again both of you will be suspeneded from the guild for at least a week. I have said it time and time again. Either bring it to a mod or take it to the pms. Its in the rules. Do people read the rules anymore? Argue one more time anybody that includes me or any other mods inside of one of my threads you will be suspended without a thought about it. Do you know how bad this makes us look infront of newbies to the guild when we get them.
Thanks Your Loving Mod Drago heart
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 4:48 am
eek I missed a lot, but that was because I was at the mall with parents and friends. Plus I'm leaveing in a couple hours to go to m grandma's house so I won't be here for the exams crying . But I have put it in the leave of absents as well, but this is for every one else to know.
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