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I think you're taking liberty with the whole 'running water' thing.

It does depend on what take on the vampire you go by, but that's an issue in itself. Vampires, especially the differences between western and eastern depictions, have so many core differences in how they function.

Meanwhile werewolves have relatively few variants. Mostly pretty consistent.

Like there's vampire variants where they not only aren't weak to any of the above, but they can fire eye lasers and transform their bodies into any shape, are stronger than Goku SSJ9, and can project 1100C plasma blood. Their only weakness AFAIK is sunlight exposure, and even that's not like... a direct kill but a "if they're in it for a good long while, then damage" thing.

Nope. They're still pussies.

If we're going to go for optimistic variants, I'd totally pick in-control werewolf over baseline vampire.

And I'd hardly trivialize the number of vampire weaknesses (plus their abundance in access) to "a handful," but I will say there's no point to them or werewolves.

It's all about werebears now.

I'd rather worry about crosses and wooden stakes than deal with going full-retard once a month for no real benefit if the trade off for said crosses and wooden stakes is effective immortality. At least I can avoid those things - you can't avoid the monthly freak-out. Even if you were in control while shifted, you're not really getting anything out of it in the long-run. It's just something you have to do once a month.

I mean, the baseline vampire weaknesses outside of daylight ARE a joke. Even some of the other ones that you can apply are pretty ******** clowny. If you apply all of them then yeah, it might be problematic. But if your only issues are sharpened pieces of wood, holy objects, and sunlight, well.. I wouldn't consider that a bad trade-off for immortality.

Like I said, immortality for a few stipulations, versus.. nothing for going batshit crazy once a month as a hairy retard. One is a trade off, the other is just a handicap.

All about weretigers.

I like vampires with all the weaknesses including the stupid ones lol

Or at least different types of vampires have different weaknesses, I think World of Darkness has that.

Tres has an achillese heel weakness.

He has two and if you combine them, it gets even worse.

If you hurt his feelings at a super high sonic fequency. It likely will kill him. lol

lol

See, that's an interesting and fun weakness!

I'm talking about being immortal, invulnerable, and possessing superhuman characteristics but being weak to garlic or a bit of salt or something. Or Superman and kryptonite. I have never liked Superman.

As for the swording stuff, even I thought half-swording sounded balls to the wall crazy at first. But then it starts to make a lot of sense given how armor developed, how the design of the longsword evolved to match it, and when you consider these guys had calloused hands from a lifetime of being REAL MEN and gloves/gauntlets to boot.

Same with the other "close and personal" techniques. There's whole schools of combat fencing/swordsmanship that teach all kinds of techniques to use in the bind, and it even seems logically that combat had less and less to do with swinging the sword around like in the movies, or lunging in and out like the modern sport of fencing to be the first to score the "hit."

I find it all fascinating, but in the end I think I feel the same way about "proper" swordsmanship as guys like you do about grappling. I have no doubt you could utterly school me when it comes to grappling in an RP fight, but you don't let the completely define your RP fighting style just to win with it. There'd be no real challenge in it, and no fun. At least I'm assuming.

That's how I feel about swording. Not that I'm even any great, but I feel like a sword used properly would be very cheap.