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 Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:12 pm
Including the doubling strength and leveled to a 1 Initiative It also Ignores Armour Saves. Thats why I like them. You can cleave through some idiots with them. Thats about it though. And people with a power fist are usually strong enough to take a few hits in close combat before it gets to their turn. My Chaos Lord has a Power Fist. It came in handy when I cleaved through that Necron Lord.
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:12 pm
Well, yes. There is a nice situation of the usefullness a powerfist can be used greatly.
But no Laceye, I don't believe only a -1 would be to extreme...giving it a -2 or 3 makes it practically back to where it was. I believe that if they only got the minus one though, there would be some changes too as to make it still fair.
For example It may have the lightning claw rule where unless you have two of them you don't get the +1 for duel wielding, or it could cost more. Any other suggestions would also problably work. (must be reasonable.)
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:12 pm
ha ha i can imagine that.
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:19 pm
XRedSamuraiX Well, yes. There is a nice situation of the usefullness a powerfist can be used greatly. But no Laceye, I don't believe only a -1 would be to extreme...giving it a -2 or 3 makes it practically back to where it was. I believe that if they only got the minus one though, there would be some changes too as to make it still fair. For example It may have the lightning claw rule where unless you have two of them you don't get the +1 for duel wielding, or it could cost more. Any other suggestions would also problably work. (must be reasonable.) I like lightening claws...use em' in a pair and get an extra attack.
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:25 pm
Eh, but then you don't have the range...now with most one-handed weapons you get the +1 attack and still can bring a pistol of any kind. Making one of the only downsides of the lightning claw.
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:28 pm
XRedSamuraiX Eh, but then you don't have the range...now with most one-handed weapons you get the +1 attack and still can bring a pistol of any kind. Making one of the only downsides of the lightning claw. yeah but terminators with lightening claws deep strike into the fray if you them to...it all evens out...
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:31 pm
I know, it's still really great...I'm just saying if they didn't have that duel-Lightning claw thing...they would be exactly the same as they are now, but now they could all shoot which is better than not shooting so.
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:41 pm
XRedSamuraiX I know, it's still really great...I'm just saying if they didn't have that duel-Lightning claw thing...they would be exactly the same as they are now, but now they could all shoot which is better than not shooting so. Well depending on what your going for. I personally dont have any dual lightming claws...one guy has one...but thats all...I dont see much point to them...o well...I like meltas...its all i have agianst b*****d tanks!
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:46 pm
Heh, you think you don't have enough anti-tank support! Try Daemonhunters...I have to use stormtroopers as my tankbusters. Pretty pathetic I know. It's my armies weakness.
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:53 pm
XRedSamuraiX Heh, you think you don't have enough anti-tank support! Try Daemonhunters...I have to use stormtroopers as my tankbusters. Pretty pathetic I know. It's my armies weakness. You're telling me your armies weakness!? Gasp! Sweet. I'm gunna use my Defiler if we get that advanced in the battles.
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:04 pm
Hondapunx XRedSamuraiX Heh, you think you don't have enough anti-tank support! Try Daemonhunters...I have to use stormtroopers as my tankbusters. Pretty pathetic I know. It's my armies weakness. You're telling me your armies weakness!? Gasp! Sweet. I'm gunna use my Defiler if we get that advanced in the battles. Heh, it's the least I can do considering...I've read your codex and have pretty much full access to it whenever I please. wink But yeah, I have things that can take out that hippy though so...beware.
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:35 pm
Have any of you guys ever seen the army Harlaquins?? It's technically not an army but it is in the stages of becoming one. They are kick butt at closecombat and pretty good at range. Their little master dude guy can have 12 attacks. Initiave 7or8 I believe. That might kill any powerfist guy you have.
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:42 pm
Hmm, where did you find this information?
If there is something like that it will cost entirely too much to be useful, or has some crappy stats.
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:06 pm
My friend is addicted to anything and everything Eldar; Supposedly its a sub-race confused (I really don't know. If he joins he can tell you) of the Eldar and one unit of them can be used in any army. Special rule called "Subsequent Attack" or something and has to do with the Harlaquins attacking at the same time as they really don't have any allies. They can't, however be allied confused with chaos razz or Dark Eldar. They cost way too many points though. The leader guy with the up to 12 attacks is 80 pts to get him. No wargear included. rolleyes I don't play against them as they are not a legitimate army yet, if ever. But we did a little thing we do alot which is a 300 pt Elite vs Elite. He used his little Harlaquin and I used 2 Daemon-hosts. I won because of superiority of numbers and because my guys weren't in one squad. He dealt 7 wounds to one of them. That guy died pretty quick and then my other Daemon-host got him. They are off the internet. They are kind of like how you find the stats for the Titans of each race. Who knows? Maybe they will come out when the Alien Hunters do. The 12 attacks is due to a charge bonus: He can charge 12 inches and any inches not used can bolster his attacks by up to 6. And he got 1 for 2 weapons in close combat. Base attacks of 5.
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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:07 am
That preety cool wait no that isnt for only 80 points? I really think there are too many close combat armys anyway think Tyranids Oks Daemonhunters and can be Chaos space marines and Space marines (Dart can back this up biggrin ) so why in the world do we need another close combat army i just dont under stand.
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