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 Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:46 pm
is secret = w= but it involves ele having to share some tai/gen build thunder = w= unless the sai sources are wrong ;O then i have all tai/gen glory = w= b
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:55 pm
hey ele... during mind control... the controller use their own chakra for jutsu... but do they lose fatigue for the controlled using taijutsu? if so is there a reason or is it simply mechanical right now? = w=;;
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:12 pm
Note to self: Don't die.
I'm also confused with the mega battle in frost atm.
So:
1) Novvus failed an awareness check, and then stealthed via ice mirrors.
1a) Sai made a reflexive awareness check for Novvus. Failed.
1b) Sorain made a reflexive awareness check for Novvus. Success.
2) Sorain used a radius stun on Kyu, Novvus, and Takera
2a) Kyu failed to counter.
2b) Novvus failed to counter.
2c) Waiting on post from Takera?
And then I would have my turn next?
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:17 pm
stun is a debuff you get to try and break free from it every round = w=b and in ele's debuff it was a will powered buff(aka normal) so you'd vs the same pc as before each round until you can break free i think or until it's released... but that's not likely since I know what that wimpy debuff is used for (analyzed the ele's jutsu biz = w= b ) but yeah = w=;;
EDIT: so basically you'll have your turn same as you would except you get to spend it trying to remove the debuff rather then do anything else.
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:22 pm
Hibiki/Kuro weren't targeted for it I think. Just Novvus, Kyu, and Takera. So why would I make a stun check XD
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:25 pm
Yes the control pays for chakra, no they do not pay for fatigue. Though I may have to double check on that. I know that the effect does not specify, and so I am inclined to say that Fatigue is not payed for by the controller, however this may simply be an oversight.
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:28 pm
oh.. you wouldn't = w=; have to... i only remembered your character's name was a k name lol so my brain went you must be kyo XD;;
@ele- = w= this might make mind control even better for a tai/gen user = w=
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:30 pm
Maniacal Monster Hibiki/Kuro weren't targeted for it I think. Just Novvus, Kyu, and Takera. So why would I make a stun check XD On your turn, You may make a reflexive aka free check against Sorains stealth. (optional) Then you may take your turn normally because no one was targeting you. However, be aware, before you may attack either Sorain or Sai, you must first beat their appropriate stealth checks. You have a reflexive check against Sorains because he went into his mirrors rprically in front of you, which means you can make that check first, and then take your turn normally.
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:31 pm
Right now, all we are waiting for is for Takera to make his defense attempt.
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:06 pm
Hmm I'll have to think over the fatigue mind control thing. Ele would be right that it was simply an oversight (I think the effect was developed before we delved to far into fatigue).
Rp wise it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for the controller to take the fatigue, but mechanic wise it's a bit broken if the controlled takes it (abuse of over using high level jutsu for the sake of exhausting a user comes into play not to mention it being to cheap for the controller).
I think I'll just say that when mind controlling the Controller pays for the Victims Taijutsu attacks with Chakra as if they where nin/gen (ie x10 the cost, modded by affinity/de-buffs, etc like normal).
As for the fight great job guys, liking the action going on and tracking it carefully. Looks like poor Aizen might just have karma biting his a** soon.
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:18 pm
I think that is a pretty good solution to it DBL.
because logically they wouldn't pay fatigue, because mind control wouldn't wear on the body. but in order to do techniques they would use energy to command the body or something like that.
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:23 pm
Dark Bunny Lord Hmm I'll have to think over the fatigue mind control thing. Ele would be right that it was simply an oversight (I think the effect was developed before we delved to far into fatigue). Rp wise it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for the controller to take the fatigue, but mechanic wise it's a bit broken if the controlled takes it (abuse of over using high level jutsu for the sake of exhausting a user comes into play not to mention it being to cheap for the controller). I think I'll just say that when mind controlling the Controller pays for the Victims Taijutsu attacks with Chakra as if they where nin/gen (ie x10 the cost, modded by affinity/de-buffs, etc like normal). As for the fight great job guys, liking the action going on and tracking it carefully. Looks like poor Aizen might just have karma biting his a** soon. He just might dbl. He just might, also Thanks for the compliment. biggrin Also doesn't that raise another kind of abuse? A nin or gen user will mind control a taijustu based team mate so that their team mate can attack without worrying about fatigue. I think the victim should have to pay with fatigue and the user should have to pay with chakra. razz Just my two cents.
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:25 pm
i also agree with DBLs mind control fatigue solution = w= man it's a good thing when i use stuff cause i always find loop holes that should be fixed = w=;; poor basic jutsu freebie hits getting found out lol XD;;
Oh as far as travel techniques are concerned would they be considered a basic jutsu since they technically only deal with travel time which i think counts as an rp deal?
either way I intend to make a basic jutsu that gives me useless mounts to ride XD;; they won't do anything spectacular aside from, me saying hey i'm riding a paper polar bear! = w=;;
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:32 pm
Karasu_Tenma Dark Bunny Lord Hmm I'll have to think over the fatigue mind control thing. Ele would be right that it was simply an oversight (I think the effect was developed before we delved to far into fatigue). Rp wise it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for the controller to take the fatigue, but mechanic wise it's a bit broken if the controlled takes it (abuse of over using high level jutsu for the sake of exhausting a user comes into play not to mention it being to cheap for the controller). I think I'll just say that when mind controlling the Controller pays for the Victims Taijutsu attacks with Chakra as if they where nin/gen (ie x10 the cost, modded by affinity/de-buffs, etc like normal). As for the fight great job guys, liking the action going on and tracking it carefully. Looks like poor Aizen might just have karma biting his a** soon. He just might dbl. He just might, also Thanks for the compliment. biggrin Also doesn't that raise another kind of abuse? A nin or gen user will mind control a taijustu based team mate so that their team mate can attack without worrying about fatigue. I think the victim should have to pay with fatigue and the user should have to pay with chakra. razz Just my two cents. Not at all, let them do that if they want. Why you ask? Simple, because now it's basically just the controller with 2 turns and the controlled with none. There's really no advantage as you're just transferring cost all to chakra, but the cost is all being payed by the controller meaning they become by far the prime target and are going to piddle out faster just by spending a ton of chakra + likely getting targeted and hit more.
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:33 pm
Zavits W i also agree with DBLs mind control fatigue solution = w= man it's a good thing when i use stuff cause i always find loop holes that should be fixed = w=;; poor basic jutsu freebie hits getting found out lol XD;; Oh as far as travel techniques are concerned would they be considered a basic jutsu since they technically only deal with travel time which i think counts as an rp deal? either way I intend to make a basic jutsu that gives me useless mounts to ride XD;; they won't do anything spectacular aside from, me saying hey i'm riding a paper polar bear! = w=;; I'll be coming up with some travel stuff soon hopefully. Going to work in special notable locations in certain threads, get to work on shortcuts, etc.
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