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FrozenPhoenix32

PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:07 am


Zeke Ren
Agh!What'd I miss?


basically some dude who looks like a chick
PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:38 am


giving up so soon Zeke?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:20 pm


Neb can't be funny... he's too apathetic. Gunny's too stupid and hudson is too serious.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:54 pm


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Neb can't be funny... he's too apathetic. Gunny's too stupid and hudson is too serious.


Gunny and Hudson are...strange.

everyone has NPCs now lol.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:17 pm


Palpatine: ( from the Death Star after the Empire has destroyed the Rebel Alliance's HQs ) Attention living beings. All your galaxy are belong to us.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:21 pm


FrozenPhoenix32
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Neb can't be funny... he's too apathetic. Gunny's too stupid and hudson is too serious.


Gunny and Hudson are...strange.

everyone has NPCs now lol.

I don't have any NPCs. crying

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Nospai Deathous

PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:36 pm


well, i'm designing more rifles.

this is all for an animation i'd eventually like to produce. i've designed combat uniforms for the European coalition, U.S. forces, U.S. Special marines (more later) and the Chinese.

as a result, i need to design weapons for each group and for the european coalition, each country. i used FN weapons as a basis for the two weapons i previously showed, so belgium will be a standard weapons producer for the EC. Germany, Austria, Britain, and Russia will also be top contributors. German and Belgian are most advanced, British are basically only there cause the British only feel like using their own weapons, Austrian are a common, less sophisticated supplier of weapons, and the Russians supply the cheap, crude weapons.

the belgian weapons have been a basic pistol with a complicated bayonet (meant to make the pistol into an entire melee weapon in and of itself) and an assault rifle that's a combination of the FN 2000 and the P90. the Belgians stress erganomics and advanced design, so I tried to emphasize those.

german weapons will be based around a combination of the G11 and the HGK SL9-SD. it's a long, light, accurate rifle with caseless ammunition. the caseless ammo is top mounted, and there's an integral 30mm grenade launcher below the main rifle, with a trigger built forward of the handguard. it has a 3 round box magazine and a compact camera system. i still haven't designed the standard pistol.

i'm working on american weapons now. i first worked on the weapons for the special marines. the special marines are basically genetically enhanced super-soldiers in powered-armor. one of the themes of america is overkill and excessive use of force, and the special marines embody that. they use an especially large version of the OICW with a chain link belt in the stock for the 20mm burst shells. the 10mm caseless rounds are held in a box magazine forward of the grip, and in front of that is a 40mm grenade launcher, also belt fed. there's a large integral camera system on top that connects directly to an advanced version of the 'land warrior' system. the belts are fed from a large ammo cannister worn on the back of the armor.

the 40mm launcher can be taken off and attached to a grip system that turns it into an independant weapon (though in this form a shortened barrel is used). this serves as the basic special marines 'pistol' (which is shaped as a large handgun relative to their bulky size due to enhanced muscles and armor)

the standard american rifle is based off of 4 different weapons, and is composed of 3. to reduce weight of the OICW for the majority of soldiers who were not enhanced and wore normal armor vests and padding, the rifle caliber was lowered. the main rifle part is now a long, accurized submachinegun. the length of the rifle is reminiscent of the bushmaster, while the grip and caseless ammo mag is based off of the Ruger version of the Uzi. on top of that is basically the OICW 20mm grenade attachment, with a smaller and less advanced camera mount for the land warrior system. below the rifle atachment and forward of the trigger guards is a 40mm grenade launcher, single shot and pump action. it's based off the South African Milkior, and slightly the M203 (basically the barrel and ribbing look like the Milkior, but the trigger is housed and guarded like on the M203).

the standard american pistol hasn't been designed yet.

the chinese rifle will probably be based off the Norinco and will not be too fancy, except it'll also have caseless ammunition.

the russians will have cheap weapons combining the AK and the Groza, and will have a powerful, if outdated, large-caliber cased round.

the british rifles'll be based off the L81 and possibly the SIGs.

the weapons i've described in least detail are most subject to change. i may also be inclined to design a bunch of submachineguns.

i'm also designing armed vehicles. many will be robots, and most will be unmanned. bombers and scout planes will be aunmanned as well. larger vehicles will carry railguns, mac cannons, and chemical laser rifles. the only manned vehicle is a 3-4 meter tall platform essentially an augmented powered armor made to carry a double autocannon and a chemical laser rifle.

other land vehicles are mostly treaded or have 4+ legs, mounting rail guns or chemcial lasers.

and that's how i'm wasting my life..
PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:44 pm


British weapons are by far not to be considered "subpar" to german rifles. In fact, they're almost as complicated, and shoot just as well....

My L1A1 kicks the s**t out my mauser for accuracy, for instance, up to 400 yards.

Of course, you're giving belgian weapons to much credit (mostly since i believe they're supplied heavily by british)

as for the germans, you should incorporate the mauser into the design... not a better rifle ever came out of germany than the prided mauser.

You have to make american weapons much like americans: Highly complex, easily befuddled, and so drastically simple on points its not funny. You do also know that a bushmaster is a manufactorer, not a style... they're jsut like any other AR out there.

as for the chinc rifle (most their arsenel is russian), perhaps the ... aww crap... memory failed... their sniper rifle.... can't remember...

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Nospai Deathous

PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:59 pm


the type 95? didn't think of that, but it's a good idea.

anyway, i'm actually a big fan of the L86A1, especially the accurized ver. with the stability grip behind the stock. asthetically, anyway. it looks rockin'.

however, actual field results have been infamously dismal. soldiers really don't like the L85, or even the upgrade, the A2, all that much.

...why would i base anything off the Mauser? these are also supposed to be evolutions of the futuristic designs we're fielding now. =P

the americans.. yes it's basically the AR, but the australian version looks cooler. the weapons are pretty complex, but i'm going for military tendancies not general personality.

edit: got 'L86' and 'type 95' mixed up
PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 4:14 am


FrozenPhoenix32
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Neb can't be funny... he's too apathetic. Gunny's too stupid and hudson is too serious.


Gunny and Hudson are...strange.

everyone has NPCs now lol.

the story has a wider scope now. hence the NPCs

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 8:42 am


Nospai Deathous
the type 95? didn't think of that, but it's a good idea.

anyway, i'm actually a big fan of the L86A1, especially the accurized ver. with the stability grip behind the stock. asthetically, anyway. it looks rockin'.

however, actual field results have been infamously dismal. soldiers really don't like the L85, or even the upgrade, the A2, all that much.

...why would i base anything off the Mauser? these are also supposed to be evolutions of the futuristic designs we're fielding now. =P

the americans.. yes it's basically the AR, but the australian version looks cooler. the weapons are pretty complex, but i'm going for military tendancies not general personality.

edit: got 'L86' and 'type 95' mixed up


The L1A1 is basically a slightly modified G3. And I know that I have yet to find a british special ops who doesn't like the thing. Every weapon has its kinks, like the uzi being near worthless for stopping power or the AK with no ability to reload any faster than 3.4 seconds.

@ everyone talkign about NPCs: The only reason for Hudson and Gunny is that I need a crew for the Kapella. And since Neb probably would need scientists for teh TSQ, he needs that requirement filled. So, why not have some fun while i'm at it?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 10:41 am


Nelowulf


The L1A1 is basically a slightly modified G3. And I know that I have yet to find a british special ops who doesn't like the thing. Every weapon has its kinks, like the uzi being near worthless for stopping power or the AK with no ability to reload any faster than 3.4 seconds.


oh, the L1! i misread that as L85. yes, the L1's not bad, but is essentially a knock-off of the Belgian FAL..

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:44 am


Nospai Deathous
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The L1A1 is basically a slightly modified G3. And I know that I have yet to find a british special ops who doesn't like the thing. Every weapon has its kinks, like the uzi being near worthless for stopping power or the AK with no ability to reload any faster than 3.4 seconds.


oh, the L1! i misread that as L85. yes, the L1's not bad, but is essentially a knock-off of the Belgian FAL..
I prefer it... though they are ugly without a flash supressor...

Though I kept wondering what the hell an L85 has to do with the L1A1... I was like, "He should know what that is... but maybe he doesn't?"

You still owe me a BG.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:50 am


yeah, i'm almost done actually. you owe me what you've got of those comics so far.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:54 am


your hotmail is that adimunnthing right?
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