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 Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:20 pm
And because KB brought it up,
YES, if the numbers don't match up to the winner who I thought should have won, then I'll change my judgement if I can't find an honest way to make the two work.
Because this isn't being scored by my own rules, but by Vintricts rubic.
If his scoring means that someone else won besides what I like, then so ******** be it.
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:22 pm
Yeah i went through some changes whilst my first HoH.
I kept scoring low despite doing good cause I "was boring as hell" and my writing was ******** shitty.
So like, I was forced to step it up and eventually got good results.
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:22 pm
Yeah. I don't say that to mess with you Zantara, I say that because the way the points are handled this year there's a degree of meta game to be had from the bonus/penalties section.
Like you might ( general you ) come to the conclusion that Fighter A was better and won, but it was close, and then Fighter B gets an upset because they got the regular posting bonus and A didn't. It might be shitty, but that's part of the game.
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:23 pm
There's only so much you can do as a strictly hand to hand combatant.
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:23 pm
And as I look back over that, I just gave credit to the numbers not being Arbitrary.
*rolls eyes as his poor wording*
Sometimes, I do like to cause myself more trouble than I need to.
You'll get your damn shiny score card Sigil.
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:24 pm
I'm not talking about real world tournaments. I'm talking about tournaments on Gaia and in other fighting communities. Anonymous judges are exceedingly rare, and for good reason.
Also, let me amend my statement a bit regarding numbers:
Scores matter in helping determine an individual judge's view of a fight. So let's say I score Fighter A and Fighter B a tie at 15 points each. But Fighter B broke a rule that ends up with a -3 to their score.. so they get knocked down to 12. You always apply penalties at the end, once you've finished grading.
In that context, the context of an individual judge's decision.. numbers matter. But at the same time, they're overshadowed by the yes/no of the three judges. The numbers help determine the yes or no, but they're limited to that degree. For examples, once the yay or nay is established.. numbers are no longer relevant, you don't average the scores or add them or anything.
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:26 pm
King Bug Yeah. I don't say that to mess with you Zantara, I say that because the way the points are handled this year there's a degree of meta game to be had from the bonus/penalties section. Like you might ( general you ) come to the conclusion that Fighter A was better and won, but it was close, and then Fighter B gets an upset because they got the regular posting bonus and A didn't. It might be shitty, but that's part of the game. No no, you have a point. There is a heavy bonus/penalty gap there... that could easily be abused on some of these fights that are close to call. *shrugs slightly* We shall just have to see how badly the scores are different from my own opinion, if at all.
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:28 pm
Indeed. Once the yes/no win/loss is established the numbers become significantly less important. They can be a useful gauge though for how a specific person ( a judge ) is reacting to your writing. This can help you do better in subsequent rounds/tournaments.
To say that you can completely ignore them is just incorrect though. You pretty much need to play for those bonuses and dodge the penalties to have any real chance of winning a GTB round. The fact that I missed the regular posting bonus in Round 2 might just be enough to knock me out of it, if other factors don't, and that's slightly troubling. My own fault though.
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:30 pm
Well, I appreciate that you've cleared up your thought process on the matter.
But simply posting "I'm not used to score cards." in a vacuum is disconcerting.
I will withdraw to my abrasive and sponge-like brillo pad fort now.
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:32 pm
Yay or Nay is really all that needs to be used.
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:35 pm
The numbers you assign to a fight should fit your opinion of the fight, and that's part of why you should apply penalties at the end.
I read a fight once and give a baseline score in each category. I re-read it, and tweak my scores to account for things I missed and I begin to develop my commentary. Re-read a third time really quickly to make sure there's nothing I missed. Then apply penalties. In that instance, even if I thought somebody won.. if they have the penalties to kill their victory, then that's what happens.
If I'm the only judge out of the panel who felt that fighter A won, then I don't change my grade. It just means that the decision was split. My score, commentary, and yay/nay all go hand in hand, you shouldn't change one to suit the other, they should all develop out of one another organically as being representative of your opinion; there shouldn't be any inconsistencies between them.
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:35 pm
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:35 pm
I SECOND THE MOTION
ALL IN FAVOR?
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:37 pm
Mr Crawley Yay or Nay is really all that needs to be used. You need to work on your arms brah...
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:37 pm
To be fair you left Tenkai in charge of HoH.
What I'm saying is your judgment is questionable.
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