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 Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:47 am
Sigil Warden that addresses physical fatigue It addresses all fatigue. Even if your profile doesn't say so, you're still just as viable to it. Energy is not unlimited in this tournament. I don't care what system that the character was made from, which this case is wow, but the fact that while in GTB, she has mortal limits like everyone else. Now I sleep.
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:48 am
Grim Skies Vintrict Legion_of_Nazareth If this is true, how the ******** did you let in Sigil's build, or my build. Neither build has a fatigue system, both allow for technique spamming within the allowance for cool down. I dont get it... Edit: I mean how are these not terribly obvious issues? I'm tired right now, so I won't get very heavy worded with you like I was a few minutes ago. I shouldn't even be up, but I got insomnia all of a sudden. Basically, fatigue is standard across ALL characters. No matter who you are, you are subject to the same standards as everyone else when it comes to this because it's related to damage and damage is related to how effective your character can do things. Your character's build and any extra abnormal stats decide how much "endurance/ stamina" they have. Quote: Characters that are unable to be fatigued/Knocked Out or otherwise impervious to physical damage will also be banned. Any fighter that enters must be able to take abuse as well as dish it out. That isn't to say you can't temporarily weaken a preexisting character if you so desire. KB can tell you how strict we are about this. Vin, this is just another case where your rules and expectations are very ambiguous. First, immunity/resistance to pain =/= immunity/resistance to damage =/= immunity/resistance to fatigue/exhaustion. They are so consequentially different they do not deserve to be lumped into one broad category or a couple of sentences. Second, whether you take video game logic, real life anecdotes, or roleplay, a character who is meant to be a world class fighter should never really tire out from "basic" actions, i.e. running and fighting, but there should be a limit to any special actions/abilities that could in turn possibly fatigue/exhaust the character for an even greater effect. In video games, you have your basic combo attacks. In real life you have guys going several rounds of a few minutes punching, kicking, and moving around without showing any significant sign of fatigue. in roleplay, the fights never last longer to break the threshold to make a character tired from these basic actions that have real-life counterparts. But when it comes to special abilities, any magic or supernatural abilities or special techniques, there should be some kind of charge/cooldown system. If and only if the ability has a significant effect, the character can also suffer from physical exhaustion through repeated use of such special abilities, not regular actions. But it's also perfectly fine for exhaustion to not take effect if they have a sufficient cost-to-effect ratio system in place already. And because you can't even name a set amount of posts or anything where physical exhaustion kicks in, you're basically saying you'll penalize on a very subjective basis--i.e. when you feel like a character should be tired. It's illogical and unnecessary to achieve any fairness or balance, so long as you did the profile grading process right and ensured their abilities can't just be spammed for low cost and high effect. If you want to continue this, PM me. I'll get to it later.
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:48 am
Farmer Abe Edit: see even the character agrees with me Yummy your ships are wrong good day sir. Although if you want to debate TresXVin or VinXTres I happily listining. I think vinxtres is impossible. They are obviously the same person. And it's a no go if you try to get with yourself. I've tried.
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:49 am
Yeah. Vintrict might have never told you in profile grading that you needed a fatigue element to your profile, but you should have already known to implement it without ever being informed of its requirement. Even though it isn't in the rules, either.
God, you don't have telepathy? What are you, some kinda Neanderthal?
s**t, get it together, Sigil!
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:51 am
Well, at least he told you now, Sigil. Only halfway through the tournament. And hey, if he doesn't suddenly penalize you to oblivion so that you lose this round, at least you'll know going forward that you're going to have to nerf your character yet again.
And then it'll probably be best to nerf her even more. Just in case.
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:52 am
Fatigue should be one of the unspoken rules, you guys. You go for a full round of fighting, you had better be tired! Look at just five minutes in the UFC. those guys get beat to a pulp, breath all to s**t, and man, when it's all done, they are beat.
Tie magic into it, everyone should have some fatigue about halfway through the fight for realism.
Unspoken rule.
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:53 am
Neanderthal is about right.
Speaking of uncivilized debauchery, Aetyra's fight is over so she's down for a good gangbang in hotel room 1746.
Located on the 17th floor.
10 PM tomorrow evening.
Be there or be square.
EDIT: Bring lube.
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:55 am
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:56 am
What Yummy said, fights peak, after those peaks being out breath sweaty and worn makes logical sense. You recover and head for another peak. You never reach full again, and next time your more tired, you recover and get even further from your full, and so on and so forth.
Having more stamina means one of two things, you can go longer, or you can go harder. If you go harder your peaks are going to match but you might overwhelm your opponent.
If you go longer you try for the outlast, loose the minimum amount of energy possible and unleash it when your opponent cant peak again.
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:56 am
I'm staing to warm up to the idea of DarthXVin&Tres, the character gives off a commanding aura that I feel Vin and Tres bot pick up on. Will mostlikely involve a compition between vin and tres to see who has the rights to be with Darth, but in the end Darth will end up falling in love with the little sparks of joy. With a small sadistic taint in the idea of having both of them to himself, Darth will propose and Vin&Tres will begrudgingly accept due to their competitive nature.
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:57 am
I hope you like your colon perforated then, Marx.
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:58 am
he is a genie no need to hold back, his physical form is malleable.
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:58 am
It's... uh, it's for her, dude. She's undead so things don't exactly work like they should, you know?
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:58 am
Except that there's plenty of magical systems that aren't tied to fatigue and are perfectly balanced.
It's not an unspoken rule, nor should it be. You can make a perfectly balanced system using a mana pool, or CDs, or limited-uses-per-day or whatever that doesn't require something as vague or nebulous as fatigue. Requiring specific systems for power usage is silly, because there's plenty of ways to create balanced and interesting approaches to supernatural powers that don't require fatigue or mana pools or CDs or any one approach.
Worse, it's also not a "spoken" rule for this tournament, making it completely illogical to ping someone's score for not following a rule that they were never told to follow.
We're not talking physical exhaustion from athletic activity, which is a given based not on being an unspoken rule, but on the basics of how the human body works. We're talking about magic. There's no unspoken rules about magic: there's only the rules we make, and the rules the tournament makes that act as limitations.
Bottom line: if you don't tell someone "your magic system needs to implement a fatigue element" you can't expect them to use said element when they're otherwise led to believe that their current system is perfectly fine.
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:58 am
Farmer Abe I'm staing to warm up to the idea of DarthXVin&Tres, the character gives off a commanding aura that I feel Vin and Tres bot pick up on. Will mostlikely involve a compition between vin and tres to see who has the rights to be with Darth, but in the end Darth will end up falling in love with the little sparks of joy. With a small sadistic taint in the idea of having both of them to himself will be proposed and Vin&Tres will begrudgingly accept due to their competitive nature. Oh god, love triangle. Things are getting good. And Sigil, baby, perforated is a really bad word. Try rimmed. As the saying goes " Do you still like fingers in your a*****e?" The answer is yes, baby, yes,
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