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Fist of the Bro Star Captain
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 Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:53 am
Ana Helios Fenrir Graveheart Ana Helios Fenrir Graveheart Ana Helios *sigh* There's nothing wrong with a linear or sterotypical game. The success Atlus is today proves that the settings are not overplayed yet. I disagree, respectfully of course. While linear games are still fine, stereotypical games are not. I can't think of any stereotypical game that was majorly successful, or at least was never as successful as its original counterpart that was able to push forth the new innovations of gaming that most gamers have come to crave. In this particular case, persona tells me that it plays off all of the usual stereotypes of japanese anime storylines. All of the characters are awkward or weird. None of them push for adult themes or even any palpable romance. And all of them seem perfwctly ok with whatever weird, and entirely unrealistic or explainable twists the plot gives. I mean...there's a ******** space bear! WTF!? Oh, and all of the adults play an either unimportant or inconsequential role in the characters' lives, so much that they just become a device to drive the characters together. Its these kinds of storylines that, if you've already seen or played a japanese highscool game/anime, you are left with an unrewarding or overall bland kinda feeling. Or at least I am. Like the game could've actually been worthwile if it didn't stick to the same used formula of plot that only already existing anime fans of the genre MIGHT enjoy. In short, it could just do better. It could and yet it doesn't seem to try. *end rant* It doesn't really try since it already has a huge fanbase, and the first personas weren't really based around school students, to the old fans this is all new. Every game has its own appeal, something that makes fans come back to keep playing it again and again, and persona has no lost its own yet. And seriously man...it's japan, do you expect something average? DBZ is my example of people not caring what the crap is happening to them, no matter how strange it is. *smokes bubble-pipe of knowledge* Interesting. >.> Bubble...pipe? O_o Indeed. lol Do I look like a smoker to you!?
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:58 am
Fenrir Graveheart Ana Helios Fenrir Graveheart Ana Helios Fenrir Graveheart Ana Helios *sigh* There's nothing wrong with a linear or sterotypical game. The success Atlus is today proves that the settings are not overplayed yet. I disagree, respectfully of course. While linear games are still fine, stereotypical games are not. I can't think of any stereotypical game that was majorly successful, or at least was never as successful as its original counterpart that was able to push forth the new innovations of gaming that most gamers have come to crave. In this particular case, persona tells me that it plays off all of the usual stereotypes of japanese anime storylines. All of the characters are awkward or weird. None of them push for adult themes or even any palpable romance. And all of them seem perfwctly ok with whatever weird, and entirely unrealistic or explainable twists the plot gives. I mean...there's a ******** space bear! WTF!? Oh, and all of the adults play an either unimportant or inconsequential role in the characters' lives, so much that they just become a device to drive the characters together. Its these kinds of storylines that, if you've already seen or played a japanese highscool game/anime, you are left with an unrewarding or overall bland kinda feeling. Or at least I am. Like the game could've actually been worthwile if it didn't stick to the same used formula of plot that only already existing anime fans of the genre MIGHT enjoy. In short, it could just do better. It could and yet it doesn't seem to try. *end rant* It doesn't really try since it already has a huge fanbase, and the first personas weren't really based around school students, to the old fans this is all new. Every game has its own appeal, something that makes fans come back to keep playing it again and again, and persona has no lost its own yet. And seriously man...it's japan, do you expect something average? DBZ is my example of people not caring what the crap is happening to them, no matter how strange it is. *smokes bubble-pipe of knowledge* Interesting. >.> Bubble...pipe? O_o Indeed. lol Do I look like a smoker to you!? Hmm...good point. In other news...I may be an awesome programmer, but trying to draw concept art is kicking my butt right now...
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Valentine Valtieri Vice Captain
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Fist of the Bro Star Captain
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:02 am
Ana Helios Fenrir Graveheart Ana Helios Fenrir Graveheart Ana Helios It doesn't really try since it already has a huge fanbase, and the first personas weren't really based around school students, to the old fans this is all new. Every game has its own appeal, something that makes fans come back to keep playing it again and again, and persona has no lost its own yet. And seriously man...it's japan, do you expect something average? DBZ is my example of people not caring what the crap is happening to them, no matter how strange it is. *smokes bubble-pipe of knowledge* Interesting. >.> Bubble...pipe? O_o Indeed. lol Do I look like a smoker to you!? Hmm...good point. In other news...I may be an awesome programmer, but trying to draw concept art is kicking my butt right now... Practice makes perfect. Then again I don't know about art. My drawing skills haven't changed since kindergarten. >.>
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:05 am
Fenrir Graveheart Ana Helios Fenrir Graveheart Ana Helios Fenrir Graveheart Ana Helios It doesn't really try since it already has a huge fanbase, and the first personas weren't really based around school students, to the old fans this is all new. Every game has its own appeal, something that makes fans come back to keep playing it again and again, and persona has no lost its own yet. And seriously man...it's japan, do you expect something average? DBZ is my example of people not caring what the crap is happening to them, no matter how strange it is. *smokes bubble-pipe of knowledge* Interesting. >.> Bubble...pipe? O_o Indeed. lol Do I look like a smoker to you!? Hmm...good point. In other news...I may be an awesome programmer, but trying to draw concept art is kicking my butt right now... Practice makes perfect. Then again I don't know about art. My drawing skills haven't changed since kindergarten. >.> It's sad because my dad and sister can both draw ultra-realistic...even though one is in the army and the other is a doctor...I can hardly draw a circle correctly! gonk
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Valentine Valtieri Vice Captain
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Fist of the Bro Star Captain
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:09 am
Ana Helios Fenrir Graveheart Ana Helios Fenrir Graveheart Indeed. lol Do I look like a smoker to you!? Hmm...good point. In other news...I may be an awesome programmer, but trying to draw concept art is kicking my butt right now... Practice makes perfect. Then again I don't know about art. My drawing skills haven't changed since kindergarten. >.> It's sad because my dad and sister can both draw ultra-realistic...even though one is in the army and the other is a doctor...I can hardly draw a circle correctly! gonk Hmm...looks like you need to add an artist to your team there picasso. sweatdrop
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:11 am
Fenrir Graveheart Ana Helios Fenrir Graveheart Ana Helios Fenrir Graveheart Indeed. lol Do I look like a smoker to you!? Hmm...good point. In other news...I may be an awesome programmer, but trying to draw concept art is kicking my butt right now... Practice makes perfect. Then again I don't know about art. My drawing skills haven't changed since kindergarten. >.> It's sad because my dad and sister can both draw ultra-realistic...even though one is in the army and the other is a doctor...I can hardly draw a circle correctly! gonk Hmm...looks like you need to add an artist to your team there picasso. sweatdrop NEVER! scream I can do this alone!
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Valentine Valtieri Vice Captain
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Fist of the Bro Star Captain
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:14 am
Ana Helios Fenrir Graveheart Ana Helios Fenrir Graveheart Ana Helios Hmm...good point. In other news...I may be an awesome programmer, but trying to draw concept art is kicking my butt right now... Practice makes perfect. Then again I don't know about art. My drawing skills haven't changed since kindergarten. >.> It's sad because my dad and sister can both draw ultra-realistic...even though one is in the army and the other is a doctor...I can hardly draw a circle correctly! gonk Hmm...looks like you need to add an artist to your team there picasso. sweatdrop NEVER! scream I can do this alone! The lone wolf sounds cool but the truth is that without a pack the lone wolves die of starvation. Its a very tragic thing. >.> So whats up with you and this "alone" thing anyways? Didn't you say before that you were trying to create a team for your soon-to-be gaming company or something?
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:23 am
Fenrir Graveheart Ana Helios Fenrir Graveheart Ana Helios Fenrir Graveheart Ana Helios Hmm...good point. In other news...I may be an awesome programmer, but trying to draw concept art is kicking my butt right now... Practice makes perfect. Then again I don't know about art. My drawing skills haven't changed since kindergarten. >.> It's sad because my dad and sister can both draw ultra-realistic...even though one is in the army and the other is a doctor...I can hardly draw a circle correctly! gonk Hmm...looks like you need to add an artist to your team there picasso. sweatdrop NEVER! scream I can do this alone! The lone wolf sounds cool but the truth is that without a pack the lone wolves die of starvation. Its a very tragic thing. >.> So whats up with you and this "alone" thing anyways? Didn't you say before that you were trying to create a team for your soon-to-be gaming company or something? That...was actually fairly deep considering it came from you... Yes, but I can't yet. You need to pay your team for their efforts and I don't have the money to do that...and won't until I finish my first game. Free-laborers are actually...not very skilled in their field of choice normally so that's out...
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Valentine Valtieri Vice Captain
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Fist of the Bro Star Captain
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:28 am
Ana Helios Fenrir Graveheart Ana Helios Fenrir Graveheart Ana Helios It's sad because my dad and sister can both draw ultra-realistic...even though one is in the army and the other is a doctor...I can hardly draw a circle correctly! gonk Hmm...looks like you need to add an artist to your team there picasso. sweatdrop NEVER! scream I can do this alone! The lone wolf sounds cool but the truth is that without a pack the lone wolves die of starvation. Its a very tragic thing. >.> So whats up with you and this "alone" thing anyways? Didn't you say before that you were trying to create a team for your soon-to-be gaming company or something? That...was actually fairly deep considering it came from you... Yes, but I can't yet. You need to pay your team for their efforts and I don't have the money to do that...and won't until I finish my first game. Free-laborers are actually...not very skilled in their field of choice normally so that's out... ...I'll take that as a compliment. emotion_eyebrow And your first game is this one you're working on now right? The Ethan Cross thing? If you've already got it figured out yourself then what do you need concept art for?
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:31 am
Fenrir Graveheart Ana Helios Fenrir Graveheart Ana Helios Fenrir Graveheart Ana Helios It's sad because my dad and sister can both draw ultra-realistic...even though one is in the army and the other is a doctor...I can hardly draw a circle correctly! gonk Hmm...looks like you need to add an artist to your team there picasso. sweatdrop NEVER! scream I can do this alone! The lone wolf sounds cool but the truth is that without a pack the lone wolves die of starvation. Its a very tragic thing. >.> So whats up with you and this "alone" thing anyways? Didn't you say before that you were trying to create a team for your soon-to-be gaming company or something? That...was actually fairly deep considering it came from you... Yes, but I can't yet. You need to pay your team for their efforts and I don't have the money to do that...and won't until I finish my first game. Free-laborers are actually...not very skilled in their field of choice normally so that's out... ...I'll take that as a compliment. emotion_eyebrow And your first game is this one you're working on now right? The Ethan Cross thing? If you've already got it figured out yourself then what do you need concept art for? I'm conceptionalizing Ethan, I may have the game itself figured out...but I don't know if Ethan's current look is good enough, so I'm putting concepts next to the original and seeing which one I like the best.
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Valentine Valtieri Vice Captain
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Fist of the Bro Star Captain
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:37 am
Ana Helios Fenrir Graveheart Ana Helios Fenrir Graveheart Ana Helios NEVER! scream I can do this alone! The lone wolf sounds cool but the truth is that without a pack the lone wolves die of starvation. Its a very tragic thing. >.> So whats up with you and this "alone" thing anyways? Didn't you say before that you were trying to create a team for your soon-to-be gaming company or something? That...was actually fairly deep considering it came from you... Yes, but I can't yet. You need to pay your team for their efforts and I don't have the money to do that...and won't until I finish my first game. Free-laborers are actually...not very skilled in their field of choice normally so that's out... ...I'll take that as a compliment. emotion_eyebrow And your first game is this one you're working on now right? The Ethan Cross thing? If you've already got it figured out yourself then what do you need concept art for? I'm conceptionalizing Ethan, I may have the game itself figured out...but I don't know if Ethan's current look is good enough, so I'm putting concepts next to the original and seeing which one I like the best. I see. Well I do know one guy whose drawing talent is pretty high. He's a tattoo artist commonly but he does drawings for money on the side and I've seen his work. I don't know if he'll do it for free but I'm one of the few people at my job who gets him so he might allow me a free drawing if I ask pretty please. What kind of picture are you looking for?
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:39 am
Fenrir Graveheart Ana Helios Fenrir Graveheart Ana Helios Fenrir Graveheart Ana Helios NEVER! scream I can do this alone! The lone wolf sounds cool but the truth is that without a pack the lone wolves die of starvation. Its a very tragic thing. >.> So whats up with you and this "alone" thing anyways? Didn't you say before that you were trying to create a team for your soon-to-be gaming company or something? That...was actually fairly deep considering it came from you... Yes, but I can't yet. You need to pay your team for their efforts and I don't have the money to do that...and won't until I finish my first game. Free-laborers are actually...not very skilled in their field of choice normally so that's out... ...I'll take that as a compliment. emotion_eyebrow And your first game is this one you're working on now right? The Ethan Cross thing? If you've already got it figured out yourself then what do you need concept art for? I'm conceptionalizing Ethan, I may have the game itself figured out...but I don't know if Ethan's current look is good enough, so I'm putting concepts next to the original and seeing which one I like the best. I see. Well I do know one guy whose drawing talent is pretty high. He's a tattoo artist commonly but he does drawings for money on the side and I've seen his work. I don't know if he'll do it for free but I'm one of the few people at my job who gets him so he might allow me a free drawing if I ask pretty please. What kind of picture are you looking for? I dunno, that's the problem. I can't decide between the bad-a** vigilante look, or the kinda secret agent look. I can show you a WIP someone did for me so you'll see what I mean by vigilante.
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Valentine Valtieri Vice Captain
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Fist of the Bro Star Captain
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:41 am
Ana Helios Fenrir Graveheart Ana Helios Fenrir Graveheart Ana Helios That...was actually fairly deep considering it came from you... Yes, but I can't yet. You need to pay your team for their efforts and I don't have the money to do that...and won't until I finish my first game. Free-laborers are actually...not very skilled in their field of choice normally so that's out... ...I'll take that as a compliment. emotion_eyebrow And your first game is this one you're working on now right? The Ethan Cross thing? If you've already got it figured out yourself then what do you need concept art for? I'm conceptionalizing Ethan, I may have the game itself figured out...but I don't know if Ethan's current look is good enough, so I'm putting concepts next to the original and seeing which one I like the best. I see. Well I do know one guy whose drawing talent is pretty high. He's a tattoo artist commonly but he does drawings for money on the side and I've seen his work. I don't know if he'll do it for free but I'm one of the few people at my job who gets him so he might allow me a free drawing if I ask pretty please. What kind of picture are you looking for? I dunno, that's the problem. I can't decide between the bad-a** vigilante look, or the kinda secret agent look. I can show you a WIP someone did for me so you'll see what I mean by vigilante. Chicks dig the bad-a** vigilante look. WIP it up for me.
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:44 am
Fenrir Graveheart Ana Helios Fenrir Graveheart Ana Helios Fenrir Graveheart Ana Helios That...was actually fairly deep considering it came from you... Yes, but I can't yet. You need to pay your team for their efforts and I don't have the money to do that...and won't until I finish my first game. Free-laborers are actually...not very skilled in their field of choice normally so that's out... ...I'll take that as a compliment. emotion_eyebrow And your first game is this one you're working on now right? The Ethan Cross thing? If you've already got it figured out yourself then what do you need concept art for? I'm conceptionalizing Ethan, I may have the game itself figured out...but I don't know if Ethan's current look is good enough, so I'm putting concepts next to the original and seeing which one I like the best. I see. Well I do know one guy whose drawing talent is pretty high. He's a tattoo artist commonly but he does drawings for money on the side and I've seen his work. I don't know if he'll do it for free but I'm one of the few people at my job who gets him so he might allow me a free drawing if I ask pretty please. What kind of picture are you looking for? I dunno, that's the problem. I can't decide between the bad-a** vigilante look, or the kinda secret agent look. I can show you a WIP someone did for me so you'll see what I mean by vigilante. Chicks dig the bad-a** vigilante look. WIP it up for me. Here you go, the first, and extremely rough, sketch of Ethan...Knight since Cross is too common of a name. The actual picture that was done is miles better in my opinion. 
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Valentine Valtieri Vice Captain
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Fist of the Bro Star Captain
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:48 am
Ana Helios Here you go, the first, and extremely rough, sketch of Ethan...Knight since Cross is too common of a name. The actual picture that was done is miles better in my opinion. He looks like a half-dead Dante rip off. o_O You sure this is the look you wanna go for? I mean I know Dante's badass but there are other ways to make him look cool. lol Its not bad but I'd change the hair.
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