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 Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:42 pm
Are we talking about the same acid here? Lysergic acid diethylamide?
LSD is pretty ******** safe. If you look at it on a comparison of dependency and active/lethal dose (i.e. how much of the active chemical do you have to take for it to be lethal), LSD is tied with psilocybin (magic mushrooms) for being the lowest on both scales.
I'm not saying it's not dangerous, but just about everything else is MORE dangerous, honestly.
You might be thinking of MDMA, which will totally ******** your brain up, especially at higher doses. Acid is far safer in comparison.
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:43 pm
At any rate yes, if i could ban alcohol reasonably I would. Save it for medical use only, and its the only time there has ever been alcohol in my body was emergency cleaning and sterilizing of deep lacerations...
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:43 pm
Tresondros Ecstuffuan What do you disagree about? The harmful effects of marijuana and its legalization.
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:43 pm
Legion_of_Nazareth I am pretty sure its illegal because no one has actually bothered to thoroughly research the side affects immediate and long term of marijuana usage. I don't know man, I feel like the long and short term effects of marijuana have been researched. I don't think its a case of 'We don't even know what this stuff will do to you in two years!'
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:45 pm
King Bug The harmful effects of marijuana and its legalization. Whatever man, I'm going to the gym.
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:45 pm
Lord Haelstrom Here's the issue with your logic. Yes. I entirely agree marijuana has negative effects. I'm merely stating they're too minor to rationalize being banned, in comparison to what is allowed. There will be laws regulating marijuana, things like you not being able to have so much before driving or whatever the ********. And likely, more people will obey such regulations post-legalization than pre, where it's just a universal "oh lordy weed is evil throw them in jail" treatment. alcohol is actually a prime example of how much that isn't true.
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:46 pm
Legion_of_Nazareth At any rate yes, if i could ban alcohol reasonably I would. Save it for medical use only, and its the only time there has ever been alcohol in my body was emergency cleaning and sterilizing of deep lacerations... Yeah. Ok. You've...I can't really debate my point then. You would ban anything that is potentially harmful to a human being and thats a pretty solid position.
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:47 pm
Acid's pretty safe.
Up until that point where you're stabbing people because wave after wave of spiders are pouring out of the walls or some s**t. LOL. It's basically a confirmed medical fact that acid ******** your brain up. It doesn't take much, especially if you get into using it regularly.
Then again one of the factors to remember with any drug is that its rarely the drug by itself. It usually ends up being the drug + alcohol or the drug + other drugs. There's also the matter of patterns of addiction, mental or physical, where you need more and more to get the same/better effect.
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:47 pm
its not fact because there is no scientific comparison on the subject, they are both issues of opinion.
I have observed a state of both moderate consumption of alcohol and pot seperately by the same people. The affects are strikingly similar.
Honestly a great test to this is if i pitch a base ball at you sober, your going to catch it assuming i shout hey you first.
If i do the same thing when someone has consumed the legal limit of alcohol in their system the ball is about fifty percent more likely to strike them in the face.
If I do the same when someone has consumed what i have observed to be roughly the equivalent in pot as reaching your legal limit, three to five bowls loaded to taste as I have observed, they miss catching the ball an astonishing sixty percent more often than when sober.
Is this conclusive... no not particularly, but it speaks volumes for me.
Also this proves I am a terrible friend torturing my friends who are drunk and stoned.
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:48 pm
I can understand alcohol banning. Because I've known lots of family and friends who ruined their lives or lost their lives due to addictions or just flat out poor luck coupled with a drink.
But, that's precisely why we shouldn't ban it and don't. Just because some people react terribly to it, doesn't mean all do or that all can't reasonably drink.
It's simply a matter of numbers. Lots of people = lots of potential ******** when given a stimuli (alcohol.)
I hate drunks, but I'd feel pretty ******** lame trying to justify stopping people from drinking at Christmas. A situation where you have to pick your battles.
Marijuana is honestly a waste of resources (not counting benefits from just flat out selling it) to war with.
Just speaking for the US, we have many more pressing issues. The retarded ways our larger cities handle the homeless population (here by where I live just a few weeks ago, this nice homeless dude got attacked by faggy high schoolers, beaten, died from a brain hemorrhage, the police response: "lol should've been in a house.") <********, the wasted money on lobbying against marijuana could go towards a giant swimming pool and it'd feel better allocated. At least that'd be killer to look at.
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:49 pm
Tresondros Ecstuffuan Legion_of_Nazareth At any rate yes, if i could ban alcohol reasonably I would. Save it for medical use only, and its the only time there has ever been alcohol in my body was emergency cleaning and sterilizing of deep lacerations... Yeah. Ok. You've...I can't really debate my point then. You would ban anything that is potentially harmful to a human being and thats a pretty solid position. Ban assault pencils.
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:49 pm
Colonel Iyam A Heita alcohol is actually a prime example of how much that isn't true. Uh.. ..yeah, nobody ever gets pulled over for drunk driving. There isn't a massive anti-drunk driving program, and no one ever refrains from drinking and driving to avoid the legal hassle. There aren't entire businesses dedicated to shipping drunk fags home in cabs. What was I thinking. lol
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:51 pm
Use this piece of charcoal. No one needs a high capacity writing implement.
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:53 pm
You were thinking that the statics for people killed in accidents related to alcohol, does not equate to your previous statements.... or you should have been.
You know who doesnt normally die in an accident involving alcohol, the drunk one, do you know who normally dies, the sober ones.
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:54 pm
Legion_of_Nazareth If I do the same when someone has consumed what i have observed to be roughly the equivalent in pot as reaching your legal limit, three to five bowls loaded to taste as I have observed, they miss catching the ball an astonishing sixty percent more often than when sober. Is this conclusive... no not particularly, but it speaks volumes for me. Also this proves I am a terrible friend torturing my friends who are drunk and stoned. This is fair. Weed is a drug and does stuff to your body and brain. its not always appropriate. I don't smoke before I go play baseball. I still fail to see why needing to catch balls in the safety and privacy of your own home is...important... I don't know. I guess if I was at home and I was high and I suddenly became victim to a home robbery then that would be bad...but I don't think I'd fair any better than I would if I was sober.
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