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Ishira Tsubasa Vice Captain
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 Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 9:27 pm
How are we repeating the same story? I didnt say we were having the dojos up right away, i didnt say wed allow bloodlines, i didnt say we were using our old characters right away. I agreed with most of what we have discussed and no i am not going back on what was discussed. i reread most of what we have been saying maybe you should do the same because you were the one that stated we should do the things ive just suggested, the only difference is ive come up with the goal i have in mind.
" they hear about this place called GNA (or maybe they're searching for something else).
Anyways, long story short, the new characters somehow meet up, find out that they're all looking for the same "thing", and team up (this all occurs in one thread). "
"If our older and experienced characters ever come in, it'll be one by one, and then they'll take their leave eventually. Like a small appearance."
"not sure what the goal is or what they're searching for
but hints of the GNA's existence will pop up here and there (it won't be the main focus probably, for now)
maybe it was abandoned and the teachers went their separate ways, relating to what happened in the previous story maybe"
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 9:43 pm
Nar im thinking whatever issue is going on with you and Tut at the moment is whats really stopping all of this. Agree to disagree and lets throw this crap away and please do not ever pull me into the middle of your fight. You asked for advice and my thoughts and i gave it to you only to have you act like my opinion didnt matter and was completely out of line because it didnt match with yours this time. I agreed to get the GNA up and rolling again, i did not agree to be the scapegoat of why its failing because people cant get along. The last RP this guild had failed horribly, ranging on being barely active and losing members left and right because they did not like the structure or rules to in the end killing the entire guild. That RP was one with no dojos at all, with what you are trying to propose right now and it failed quickly. The Old GNA, the one i joined years ago stayed active for a long a** time before people got bored of it. Does that mean i think it should back to dojos right away? No, but it does mean and it does show me that with clear goals an rp strives.
Id also like to point out that i not once agreed on this not being GNA themed, i even asked not to have things deleted so that new members could see GNA's past. I agreed it shouldnt be NARUTO themed. I gave in to not having Dojos, though i wanted them, there are plenty of times i have agreed with changes and plenty of times ive asked for things to be explained. I havent replied because im trying to see what everyone wants, not just what i want so ive let most of the discussion happen between others. That was obviously a mistake.
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Ishira Tsubasa Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 9:49 pm
ok
what do you want to do again?
let's start from scratch
EDIT: woah I don't hate Tutsumi what gave you that idea?
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 10:04 pm
the fact that almost every suggestion he has made you have fought.... Or at least had one or two problems with it. I read back from when we started this whole conversation Nar. I dont things need to be reset, i think they need to be discussed.
we agreed on the no dojos
we agreed on a main rp but no goal
we agreed on most of the classes
we agreed on dice rolls for attacks, skills, special stats whatever.
we agreed that GNA would be somehow involved just not how
start a list on the things we have agreed on and what we still need to discuss. Or When i have more time. which i dont tonight, i will go through everything again and write it all in one post. Theres no reason to start from scratch because we dont agree on one thing.
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Ishira Tsubasa Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 10:10 pm
ugh lol
by scratch I don't mean scrap everything
reading everything I say with a negative connotation
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 10:15 pm
its what happens when people arnt too happy, so yes ill admit i took that negatively because i didnt appreciate the position i was put in. like i said ill discuss this further tomorrow when im not worked up by the days issues along with the issues here.
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Ishira Tsubasa Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 10:38 pm
ok for the record, you completely misread my intentions because 1. I did not drag you into this, I was talking to Tutsumi, having a discussion with him, and if it came off as offensive to Tutsumi I'm sorry, because that was not my intention
and 2. I was not against you, I literally don't see your point of view when you say I'm throwing you under the bus lol, like you showed up here and there to add input which was great but I don't remember attacking you directly or indirectly
unless you were referring to the one post I just made tonight about the repeating thing
it's just misinterpretation one after the other with this whole thing, and it's too much to correct, so I'm just dropping the corrections at this point, it's fruitless you're right
(and to clear up any misinterpretation that might occur because of this post, that was not meant to be a hit and run "ok lets drop it after I say my piece", I was trying to explain what it was from my point of view since you said what it looked like from your point of view)
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 10:09 am
Alright understandable, i must have read something wrong and im willing to say that and not press the issue. Either way we need to move past these disagreements. I was far too heated last night to comment and i probably shouldnt have. Im sorry. That aside, lets continue with constructive conversations.
What do i want for the rp? I want a goal, something to solidify the fact we need and want rpers to join. Building a character is fine and dandy but boring if there isnt a reason they are doing it. Without a goal we have less of a chance keeping people active in the rp, in my opinion. Getting stronger may be a personal goal, but what about an overall one? Thats why i suggested the goal being the rebuilding of the Academy. I know you dont like the academy aspect and that you dont think it would work well, but for a majority of the Rp there would not be dojos or anything truly relating to the academy other than the possible older character coming in from time to time. I would like to see this happen. I could also understand that having the older characters coming in could be confusing because the setting is years and years after the GNA disappears, but remember that there were plenty of characters in the GNA that had long life spans and we could use that to our advantage.
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Ishira Tsubasa Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 1:01 pm
hmm, thinking
(yea the long-life thing, Kaimen did that as well by binding his "soul" or w/e to the earth elements, and we can say that the others did the same with their respective elements)
EDIT: ok, so if we do this main dojo thing, it'll just be that the new people come across the main dojo and the other dojo's are destroyed?
/the main dojo is also half-destroyed and covered in moss and deteriorated?
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2015 5:08 pm
I'd say it should be to a point where everything needs to be rebuilt. The dojos, being smaller, could be rubble whereas the main dojo's walls are crumbling to the touch.
Taking from other parts here.... People come together, in a thread in a main forum/sub-forum and start to work together after hearing about the history of the GNA. Someone's going to need to start them off on the guide to becoming a shinobi, enter DM.
DM would have planned out a few plots and sub-plots for characters, plus allowing their own story lines to blossom as time goes (without taking over the main story unless it becomes the main story). People wanting to be chaotic or evil characters could also be introduced to prevent them from reaching goals or blocking them.
Older characters could come in from time to time, help out with a baddie or with training (free stat/skill roll?). They then disappear either to retire again or help out with rebuilding the GNA after hearing that people are interested again.
After a certain point, and enough members, we start to pick the better ones to move here and continue with other things like in-depth training/story or taking on assassinations/protection requests from other places. After awhile, bring more and more people here while developing the thread's story.
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Ishira Tsubasa Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 11:33 am
Good ideas, like i said the dojos dont need to be the focal point until much later in the rp. The gna would be seriously deteriorated which means they would, after a while, have to build their own things. That i believe should happen much further into the rp after we have a stable amount of people.
As far as starting this in a thread instead of the guild, im not sure about that.... Ive never really done Rp outside of a guild other then the Fox Hole. I mean i could see the benefits of it, it allows a lot of people to be involved who may not have been before because they arent interested in the guilds. But at the same time im wondering about quality or rpers. Here we are able to control and weed out who we want or not. We have rules we can set that will keep.... Idiots out. Now i havent been in the forums in ages but do they have the ability to kick others out of it? (ishi is paranoid of trolls)
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 12:03 pm
Thread creator can 'kick' people via ignore list. Said thread creator also can delete posts if needed. So person running the thread would either need to be the DM, and if that position changes hands we make a new thread, or maybe a thread admin mule account multiple people could access.
I know before that was added the mods would take action when people trolled RP threads by ignoring rules or requests to leave.
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 12:18 pm
well, if we do it in an open thread in the RP forum, you just make a profile skeleton in the first post saying to fill this out and PM you
if they seem competent from it (which should be really obvious lol, but who knows) then accept them, and they should roll for stats in the thread
if they're not competent don't reply back
and this is in general:
the first or second post in the thread should have everyone's profile and stats quoted from the roll they made in the thread (you write down the roll #'s they got, and where the points were allocated to)
EDIT: yea, also what h4x said, the person who made the thread would still be in control to delete posts and whatnot (if it ever got to that point)
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Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 1:26 pm
Just for clarification: A link to their post, which has their info, is probably best. Maybe quoting it here in a specified thread, and linking back to here, could be another option?
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Posted: Wed May 27, 2015 9:44 am
right, with a link of the actual post below the quote in the thread owner's 2nd post
I'd put it in the same RP thread so people can double check their stats easily
EDIT: yea I suppose it has to be the DM who makes the thread, since they'll be the ones who update the profiles whenever someone gets a new weapon or stat or equipment
(I mean it doesn't have to be the DM, but it'd be a lot easier than going through an extra channel to edit the 2nd post with the profiles)
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