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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:26 am


Foam-Dome
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EDIT: Anyway, I'm just reminding everyone that I'm not saying that suicidal people are lazy or selfish (since what seems to have gone amiss). I'm just one of those people who believes that suicide should never be seriously contemplated, much less carried out. There is always a saving grace that makes life worth living.

Oh, I never thought you were calling suicidal people lazy/selfish. But the thing is that depression is a mental illness. You can't really help having suicidal thoughts, it's just an automatic thought that stays in your head. And when the only thing people say in response is that suicide is a horrible and selfish thing, that only makes the person feel worse. It makes him feel like he's a bad person for even considering it. Or at least that's how it makes me feel.


That does make sense...

Okay, I'll amend what I said. Contemplating suicide is understandable for those who have depression, but it doesn't make sense to me for other people to consider it.
(And before anyone starts making assumptions, no, I'm not implying that people with depression are inferior or different in any negative ways.)

Sorry about all this. No more assumptions. I know you mean well.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:29 am


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EDIT: Anyway, I'm just reminding everyone that I'm not saying that suicidal people are lazy or selfish (since what seems to have gone amiss). I'm just one of those people who believes that suicide should never be seriously contemplated, much less carried out. There is always a saving grace that makes life worth living.

Oh, I never thought you were calling suicidal people lazy/selfish. But the thing is that depression is a mental illness. You can't really help having suicidal thoughts, it's just an automatic thought that stays in your head. And when the only thing people say in response is that suicide is a horrible and selfish thing, that only makes the person feel worse. It makes him feel like he's a bad person for even considering it. Or at least that's how it makes me feel.


That does make sense...

Okay, I'll amend what I said. Contemplating suicide is understandable for those who have depression, but it doesn't make sense to me for other people to consider it.
(And before anyone starts making assumptions, no, I'm not implying that people with depression are inferior or different in any negative ways.)

Sorry about all this. No more assumptions. I know you mean well.


There's no problem to apologize for, so it's all right. XD You actually somewhat changed my perspective of suicide, so thank you for that.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:41 am


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A person enjoys having someone as a friend and because of that, they don't want him/her to die - but they ignore just how much pain and suffering that person is in.

Or maybe they just really genuinely don't understand it?
Because how on Earth can someone know or imagine the exact, specific things going on in someone's head without having experienced it themselves? And that's what makes it so hard for other people to understand, right? They can never be sure if they understand fully what that person is going through.


I was just pointing out that I don't think it's fair to call suicide selfish. . . when saying you want a person to live could be considered selfish as well (in a weird sense).

But no, I don't think that's really the case. I don't think people are like "******** your suffering, play with me!" xD



I just . . . don't like it when people say suicide is lazy or selfish, because I feel it really minimizes what people go through.


Oh, if you're going to take that approach...

Pretty much everything is right and wrong in some sense or another.

Like, say, coming to someone's rescue when he/she tries to commit suicide. Normally this would be considered a good deed, yes?
But what if he/she continued to live a miserable life which eventually ended in a horribly painful death?
Then preventing that person from killing him/herself becomes a bad thing.

I've used this example in the past too, but say there was a mass murderer that could be killed with the simple press of a button.
Most people would press the button without a second thought, but what if he only killed other mass murderers?
Then keeping him alive would be better.

EDIT: Anyway, I'm just reminding everyone that I'm not saying that suicidal people are lazy or selfish (since what seems to have gone amiss). I'm just one of those people who believes that suicide should never be seriously contemplated, much less carried out. There is always a saving grace that makes life worth living.


That's. . . not what I meant.

I'm not trying to start a fight, Foamy. I was just trying to convey that it makes me uncomfortable when people say suicide is a lazy/selfish action. :/


What Jedi said. I know you mean well. I'm not trying to call you out. I just see this happen a lot. :/
PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:54 am


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That's. . . not what I meant.

I'm not trying to start a fight, Foamy. I was just trying to convey that it makes me uncomfortable when people say suicide is a lazy/selfish action. :/


What Jedi said. I know you mean well. I'm not trying to call you out. I just see this happen a lot. :/


I think simply saying, "It makes me uncomfortable when people say suicide is a lazy/selfish action" conveys it just fine.
But it still strikes me as selfish. You're removing yourself from the world, and leaving behind a painful loss for loved ones in your absence.

And I've kinda been trained to react defensively whenever you respond to my posts, so... XD

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:49 am


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[suicide talk part l]


[suicide talk part II]
And I've kinda been trained to react defensively whenever you respond to my posts, so... XD

Why? 0.o
PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:49 am



Hahahaha hope you had a good sleep Phe <3

Thanks again for my lovely Birthday thread ^^

Stomach virus D: How come Brian was a jerk when you were feeling so bad?

/namdropnamedropnamedropnamedrop I get that impulse too Phe XD Oh and... you name dropped me <3 I feel special!
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Thanks Shori XD

You’re so strong. I really admire you <3

The fact you and Jimmy have come to a conclusion is great ^^ It sounds very well thought out and mature of you.

Hope the ‘friends’ message reached John okay and he replies soon <3

If they said you don’t need the scores then don’t fret! There is always a way around the system!
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Toxic, phew that was a rant wasn’t it *hugs* It seems like you’re pretty upset by moving, it’s never nice having to leave people and places you love. You’re right, I haven’t seen you this upset before D: So right now you’re upset and not feeling like you fit in, but not everyone is a horrible person. I’m sure there must be at least one person you can be friends with! Don’t give up hope <3 It’s going to take time and I’m not saying it’s going to be easy... but you will meet new friends! Spend some time to get to know some people! Perhaps you could try joining a club or something? You can try to talk to your parents about moving up a grade. As for college you keep your goals, don’t allow people to mess with them. Be strong. You can try talking to your parents about moving back... but I don’t know if that will work. In the mean time just be the lovely person you are and allow yourself to look for the positives *hugs*

If you really believe you’re depressed then talk to your parents. That way you can work towards a solution to help you.

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Vin... if you want to talk to Nim, then talk to her? XD

Making 3 costumes plus yours? That’s pretty amazing! Hope you get it done in time!

He said what! XD Sometimes you can’t help but laugh! It’s kinda bad >.> Did he say sorry to the lady after? As for her husband... yelling in the middle of the mall, that’s so uncool, yelling never solves anything in an argument.

All the best with finding internet while you’re away XD
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I can see what the person is trying to say Calling S, even if it wasn’t said clearly. I’m guessing that they are trying to say sorry and they didn’t mean for their views to offend you.

You don’t think it’s easy to believe God exists? If you seek, you shall find!

Hahaha nothing like leftover pizza ;D Anyways I hope you got something to eat and didn’t go hungry <3

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Thankyou Jedi, no more of the leaving business huh!

Glad to see your blog is doing well and you’re enjoying it!

Isn’t that supposed to be a neutral smiley or something? XD

As for the GMH stories, I can see what you mean... but that’s the ‘half empty’ way to look at it. The story about the little sister shows a love for her older sister and a wish to protect her even if she’s small. The one about cancer displays the way people band together to show someone they care, sure it won’t make the person well but it helps their mental state. I mean our posting doe sent make you feel any healthier or do the same job as meds... but it still helps you, right?

CHILL D< No one thinks of you as an outsider, people come and go and EVERYONE is welcome. So stop feeling like a lost puppy and just allow us to be your friends!

The devs are doing their best, don’t get upset because the exact nature of the BB wasn’t known to you before you got the ticket.

You got to meet us because of zomg. I mean if zomg never happened then we would probably be scattered all over the internet because there wouldn’t be that common interest that bound us and led us to this guild.

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Keito how come the 5th of Feb is so special???

Affirmation letters? That’s always nice, hope you found something nice to say!

Sure, I think letting him know that there is someone there who cares and hopes he’s okay is a good thing. You don’t have to hug him, you can just talk/send a note/whatever it’s just the fact someone cares which will impact him the most ^^

Hot young guys? Yup eye candy I guess... but more than friends? Nah, too highly strung.

As for working out it doe sent have to change you, you’re in charge of who you are and if you don’t want a ‘ego’ you don’t have too XD

The pet idea is nice... it’s just the price that’s not so nice for me XD

Hahaha yeah, leaving doors open and unlocked is my thing too. I always have to check twice to see if I really did lock something XD

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How come your neck hurts Epic D:

Anxiety... that’s never fun, did you manage to deal with it?

Leaving until Ane comes back huh? I guess it would be a dramatic thing to do... but if you are anything like me, I know when I go away I always miss everyone too much and end up coming back earlier XD

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Ane XD You lurker <3

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Yay, Fortune’s happy! So what did you get for your birthday present!

Vomit? D: *holds bucket* Do you need brain bleach too?

I agree with Shori on this, let your thoughts and reasons be known... and then let him decide. Then just be there to help him if he needs it. You didn’t have to convince him, it was just to express your thoughts, it’d okay you’re not a failure *hugs*

Awwww that’s so nice!

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Jiko it’s always scary taking the first steps in a relationship! The fact that he would still be willing to be friends after is always good! You don’t have anything to lose... but if he says no you have to give up your crush and that’s the price you pay for confessing... you open your heart and allow them to take it or leave it. It’s not easy, it takes guts and it’s going to mess up your head XD *hugs* Do your best! I’m supporting you!

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Sushi... bad memories suck, embarrassing ones are horrible XD Hope you’re able to cast off the bad memories soon <3

About the cancer/orphanage thing I agree, it’s sad. However it’s the way you deal with things like that which make the difference <3

Er I suppose skin does that if it expands and contracts suddenly. Isn’t it like that for pregnant people? Perhaps you should talk to Phe about it XD If I had to guess I’d say eating right and exercising is the way to go!

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See, Cleo’s water bottle spray can hit you, any place, any time... dun dun dunnnn!

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Day, sometimes it’s good to reward yourself XD Don’t feel too bad about it <3

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PEOOOOOOOOOOOOOO <3 crying

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You were this excited about the update Kam? Awwww XD

Mizu always has nice avies cool

You should try diving then!

173... wow!

You know how you feel about the black king hair? Well that’s how I feel about most of my invo... mind you if I see a good idea I snag it... and if I see a bad one I make note NEVER to do that. Don’t worry if others have it, they way you use it is your own choice.

In shape??? XDDDD Kam you’re like the most exercise and health conscious person I know!

Treadmills? Hummm.... {XD}

Text wall??? Bring it on!
Why no resting?
Money... hum it’s always tricky. They are both adults so that should make it...easier? XD
Don’t smack them... let them listen to Lady Gaga ;D
Lies... yes it’s not nice being lied too. As for your health... well in the end it’s your health. You know my thoughts on the matter already.
Hey, you have one tiki lover in the uk and one purple fan in aus, we talk to you XD I can’t help you with friends irl since you’re like a zillion miles away... but what happened to that youth group/club/shop thing you used to visit?
Violence isn’t really the ideal solution for most cases. However if young Kammy uses his powers for good and not evil then the old panda will approve cool lol What I’m saying is that it’s not the 9 belts that you have (which are a symbol of your skillz) that cause you to be violent. It’s how you use them ^^ As for typical academics... well it’s not everyone’s cup of tea. That’s nothing to be upset about. Personally I hate tests too, it’s the information that makes me keep going back and doing this self torture. You know what... I think that you being you and not your sisters is fine. You are fantastic just the way you are.
Being positive about 2011, that’s always good! Each day is a new day and anything can happen!
Can you ask this person for a straight answer?
Yup not dealing with issues isn’t the way to handle things... they just get into a bigger mess and ugh x.x You dislike people??? Hahaha seriously!?
Hey, don’t sweat the small stuff. Just let it go Kam, holding onto it just makes you into a cranky pants!
Never able to surpass your sisters? Kam... you are an apple, they are peaches and pears. You don’t compare them on the same scales each is unique and special.

You’re a youtube star? XD

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Kurai... parents, they can be downright annoying. However they usually have your best interest at heart, so if you can find out exactly why they don’t/do want you to do something it helps you understand and present your point of view.

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Song stage fright sounds scary. However the fact you’re pushing through and doing your best is admirable.

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Good to know you had a nice time Kuro!

Wait... webcam? Hope you’re being careful D:

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Tea! Sounds like you’re going to have a fun time trying all that Mizu!

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Nim you should totally have the wedding there! I mean we have never had one in BB it would be awesome <3

Hummm sounds like you need hug therapy! I have a friend who isn’t into hugs at all but I still hug her anyway because I like hugs XD Don’t worry too much about not liking hugs. It’s just something personal I guess!

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Wow Foam that’s really pretty, you should let her know it’s amazing! Also you know... you should ttly introduce her to us!

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Arc you are such an employee of gaia talk2hand

Hey... you okay? We do care!

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Poor Neia <3 You really should try and escape more ^^

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Marissssssssss I miss you on skype too crying <3

Mmm dreams where people die or get hurt is horrible
If you can’t find the book they should have it at the library, so it’s okay you will get to read it!

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Nessy... {ïτ'ṡ øќαÿ, ï τhïṉќ ïτ'ṡ ƒυṉ τøø}

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XD Hope he gets it fixed before something serious happens Raven!


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Mickey D:
Don’t worry, you take all the time you need to study and stuff. Seriously don’t fret, if you decide to come back (which I really hope you will) then everyone will welcome you with open arms <3 Hope everything’s okay! *hugs*

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Kes what are you trying to avoid???




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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:01 am


Perf---Omgtextwallwin. XDDD You are amazing, you know that? <3
And uhm. I would, but a ton of people dun have tickets, so it's more of a maybe thing.
And I do like hugs. I just....sometimes feel uncomfortable when it's sudden or unexpected. Then when I ease up like mid-hug the hug is over. I'unno. I initiate hugs more often now than a year ago, for sure, but there's fewer people I'd want to hug. xD
I'd totally want to hug anyone in this guild though. Totally. ouo
....I just would probably feel awkward trying to. Is this making any sense? xDDD;
PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:14 am



Hummm valid point... could you postpone the special day until BB was opened to the public??? Other then that I'm sure we could find somewhere equally lovely ^^

Ohhh yes surprise glomps, you're right they are quick! XD
Well hugging more is an improvement <3 Well this way you know the people you hug are special!!! ^^

You would hug us??? Awwwwwwwwwwww <3 I'd ttly hug you too! Nope it's okay, I understand what you're trying to say. I mean like we all know eachother but it would be odd meeting irl for the first time! So it would be like hugging a nonstranger??? XD




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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:27 am


Miss Perfection

Hummm valid point... could you postpone the special day until BB was opened to the public??? Other then that I'm sure we could find somewhere equally lovely ^^

Ohhh yes surprise glomps, you're right they are quick! XD
Well hugging more is an improvement <3 Well this way you know the people you hug are special!!! ^^

You would hug us??? Awwwwwwwwwwww <3 I'd ttly hug you too! Nope it's okay, I understand what you're trying to say. I mean like we all know eachother but it would be odd meeting irl for the first time! So it would be like hugging a nonstranger??? XD



Maybe. But I wouldn't think that would be anytime soon.
I hope they think of it that way. xDD Knowing him, he probably would, he's one of those constantly happy people.
And yeah, basically. xD But it's a lot less weird when you've known the people for like months to 2 years, depending. My problem is that I'm pretty sure I'd weird people out IRL. XD I act nothing like I do online, I admit.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:37 am



Wait... you don't think they will open it... I thought it was going to be two weeks and then it would be open! gonk I don't know why I thought that. emo

Constantly happy people are such a delight to be around : D

I knowwwww I mean I've known you for like a year or so but I think I'd still be shy when I first said hi redface or I'd just be all hyper... probably the latter XD

Hummm well even if you don't act like you do online and give out less hugs and stuff it's still Nim XD <3




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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:37 am


/me Is amazed at how Miss Perfection responds to everyone she can in one post. eek

Also agrees with Nim. Miss Perfection is amazing.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:07 am


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Perf---Omgtextwallwin. XDDD You are amazing, you know that? <3

THIS TIMES A MILLION!

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:08 am


Miss Perfection

Wait... you don't think they will open it... I thought it was going to be two weeks and then it would be open! gonk I don't know why I thought that. emo

Constantly happy people are such a delight to be around : D

I knowwwww I mean I've known you for like a year or so but I think I'd still be shy when I first said hi redface or I'd just be all hyper... probably the latter XD

Hummm well even if you don't act like you do online and give out less hugs and stuff it's still Nim XD <3



Well maybe it depends on the last time there was a headstart ticket. ^^
Agree. I used to think they'd possibly be annoying...but no, they just kind of rub off on you.<3
I'd be shy. I'm very awkward. Plus I'd be waiting for people to start trying to run away from me. I'm apparently very scary. e,e;
And yay for being Nim? xD
PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:10 am


Raven dragonfire-Divinity
/me Is amazed at how Miss Perfection responds to everyone she can in one post. eek

Also agrees with Nim. Miss Perfection is amazing.

This^
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:11 am


********, that Surf Life Saving ad just came on TV again and it almost makes me cry everyyyy time crying

It's really so sad
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It's like. . .Like. . . Four different people trying to revive/do CPR on people in different situations and they fit it to this really sad song and and and it just kinda really hits home to me because I've watched people die right before my eyes and today, my uncle was diagnosed with a heart condition. That's 11 relatives with heart disease.
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