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 Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:28 pm
ForgottenReaper Dark Bunny Lord Considering altering the rules for combat lines gained from fights as well. Essentially, fights will not garner the 4x line bonus UNLESS the fight is real. Ie, no "friendly fight" line bonus (or at least the bonus will be less). Reason? Fights line bonuses are granted for 2 reasons. 1. Combat posts take longer to do than normal rp posts. 2. There is a risk of death or permanent injury. Similarly, another change in the works is selling equipment. It's just a bit to easy currently to kill or steal, from another player and get a ridiculous amount of ryo from an item. Thus I'm thinking of drastically lowering the amount you earn, this way taking items after a kill still pays off, but won't be to such a ludicrous amount. (10-20% gain). Note: These changes are pending for critique and responses, not confirmed to be implemented. Now I do agree with the fight line bonus, really it has been way too easy to rack up lines with no one even dying, well at least until just recently. But I guess you need to work that idea over with the other mods. As for the selling thing that seems way too low a pay out with it already being pretty hard to get ryo up into usable amounts. Really 50% seems to be a good payout since you are still taking the defeated players equipment. Maybe if you just simply stole it you shouldn't get as much but if you did kill your enemy you should still get the current payout and all. Not really, if the player has the same number of items as you at the same power as you, then you effectively gain enough ryo to raise your overall benifit from items 50%, that's a huge increase. Ie, you opponent has, say, 3 level 100 items. You kill them, you just gained +150 item levels (effectively) on top of the line bonus and anything else you might have been doing. That's a massive power increase and makes things like missions nigh pointless if your a bit stronger than other players and can make a living just killing them.
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:29 pm
InuVash255 Dark Bunny Lord Considering altering the rules for combat lines gained from fights as well. Essentially, fights will not garner the 4x line bonus UNLESS the fight is real. Ie, no "friendly fight" line bonus (or at least the bonus will be less). Reason? Fights line bonuses are granted for 2 reasons. 1. Combat posts take longer to do than normal rp posts. 2. There is a risk of death or permanent injury. whoa whoa whoa, don't do that! It's not like the ruling would retroactively power down people who've used it. I remember that when I started, Notwen was about the same level of power that i was, but in a very short amount of time, he boosted up. I'd feel really gypped if another character jumped up in level, but I didn't have that same opportunity. However, if you wanted to lower it, I think it should be affected by the Team bonus. For instance, if the bonus where x2 for training battles, it would be x3 for team training battles (2*1.5), then the x4 bonus would be for real battles. Well yes, this is why I said perhaps lowering it rather than removing it. Intent makes a huge difference after all in if you're really in danger.
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:12 pm
I'm in favor of both though I would suggest if people do a friendly fight let them have the team line bonus even if they aren't on a team. A fight to the death gets the full bonus.
For items if you kill the person to get them let it be like 20% if they stole it 10%.
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:17 pm
missions are already pointless, and worthless.
with the kinds of checks required, and the limited number of times they can be completed, compounded with having to contact a kage IF YOU HAVE ONE to get the mission makes it completely pointless to even consider taking a mission, and makes it far more tempting for any and all strong players to slaughter as many weaklings for ryo and lines as possible, because even with 10% or hell 5% you will attain more through that then the broken a** mission system. period.
oh and another piece of sweet sweet candy. there is only D rank missions posted, the most worthless of all missions.
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:18 pm
wolf4life13 I'm in favor of both though I would suggest if people do a friendly fight let them have the team line bonus even if they aren't on a team. A fight to the death gets the full bonus. For items if you kill the person to get them let it be like 20% if they stole it 10%. This point seems a bit better, My only nag is they amounts but thats only because we don't have all of the mission info just yet so all thats out are the lowest rankings. Also @DBL what about fights that aren't friendly and don't end in a death, like lets say a sneak attack followed by the victim escaping would that still constitute a "friendly" battle or would a full bonus be given?
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:23 pm
darklord_avalon missions are already pointless, and worthless. with the kinds of checks required, and the limited number of times they can be completed, compounded with having to contact a kage IF YOU HAVE ONE to get the mission makes it completely pointless to even consider taking a mission, and makes it far more tempting for any and all strong players to slaughter as many weaklings for ryo and lines as possible, because even with 10% or hell 5% you will attain more through that then the broken a** mission system. period. oh and another piece of sweet sweet candy. there is only D rank missions posted, the most worthless of all missions. How? They're better than any and all roleplaying. You still get all the benefits you would from normally roleplaying + more if you succeed your checks. Also consider we only have the genin level ones available and obviously those are going to be less appealing than a higher level player fighting (as they should be). The higher ranked missions we're working on with the new bingo book living missions that are opposed and offer greater rewards for the higher rank players (though they're also more difficult). ForgottenReaper wolf4life13 I'm in favor of both though I would suggest if people do a friendly fight let them have the team line bonus even if they aren't on a team. A fight to the death gets the full bonus. For items if you kill the person to get them let it be like 20% if they stole it 10%. This point seems a bit better, My only nag is they amounts but thats only because we don't have all of the mission info just yet so all thats out are the lowest rankings. Also @DBL what about fights that aren't friendly and don't end in a death, like lets say a sneak attack followed by the victim escaping would that still constitute a "friendly" battle or would a full bonus be given? As long as clear and logical intent is there you'll get the bonus.
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:31 pm
*snarl* I seem to remember the event on the island, and hell even early exams in the chuunin exams, where the checks were only 100 and some a few higher, remember how many people failed again and again at those. those people, they were genin ranked people, if a genin cannot pass a 100 check on an event, how the hell are they supposed to do likewise on a genin ranked mission? great example. Quote: Rank: D Runaway Cat! -Overview: A local cat has gone missing, it's been spotted a few times but flees whenever someone gets close to it. Your job is simply, find and sneak up on the cat, then catch it and bring it back to it's owner. ---Step 1: Sneak up on the Cat! ...Count: 120 Lines ...Check: Stealth Check (Agi(x2)+Stealth Buffs vs 120) ...Requirements: Only one member needs to succeed to complete this step. ......Rewards: -Success grants each participant +80 Ryo. Notes: May complete 3 times. thats a check of 120, it requires at least 120 lines, and only grants a total of 80 ryo. the garbage one which can only be completed once has a check of 150, and it only rewards 120. the one and only benefit is you get to keep the lines. because 120 lines of RP'ing nets you 3 sets of 40 lines. which equals 150 ryo, a pay out of 30 ryo more than the only once completable garbage fiasco. and almost twice as much as the cat one. its broken.
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:40 pm
-Pops in- Ignoring.... Ignoring... Ignoring.. @DBL- I was expecting you to post a ruling on the latest fight of who won before I did the next fight. I remember you saying something and so I didn't bother doing anything. I don't know where to rule cause Mystical is doing her posts wrong which is enough excuse not to respond.
Ignoring... ignoring.. @Ava- Sensibly, Den is fighting Jin. Jin had attacked his head with a weird electrical charge that was constantly effecting him visibly.. I think. Like static charging out or something. And then BOOM goes his head. So if you want to punish a killer, Jin is the way to go. If you want to punish Aizen for stealing the body, well go ahead.
Blah... blah... blah... @DBL- I'll find my way their soon enough. I should be doing HW right now xD ******** AP Essays every day, it's a killer.
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:45 pm
Aye Oasis got there at the end, and only saw Aizen take the body, for her thats enough math to decide he was the one that killed him too xP
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:00 pm
Meh, you just want to hurt Aizen xD
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:08 pm
... ... yea, pretty much xD
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:12 pm
Yea, figured. That's why I kept saying Nope to you. Cause it's more biased then anything else. Aizen was just taking advantage of an opportunity to get some money on an weakened opponent. -Shrugs-
@Wolf/Ava/DBL- The last fight is currently locked, will stay locked and remained locked until DBL decides what to do on the Seventh fight. It is up so DBL can simply open it the moment he has that decision. Also, have fun~
I cooked up something real fun and interesting for ya~ I hope you appreciate and enjoy ^__^
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:19 pm
aye, it sounds like fun for the most part. good thing Oasis has a few water walking/standing/whatevering skills, so she wont have an issue with that staying on the pole deal lol.
anyway its quite the stark difference from the other arena's isn't it ^.^
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:26 pm
Originally it was Forest/Explosive... The dice hate you guys so much. So I was like fudge that, let me make a bunch of new arenas, add them into the mix, and re-roll.
AND BINGO. One of the funnest maps I believe. The following rounds shall all be very, very interesting as they will have 2 or 3 alterations now and majorly new stuff :3
Also, I'll be updating people soon, just need to finish my last paper and then I'll Get Wolf and You.
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:28 pm
lol dang dice loves that setup doesn't it o,o
well sounds like fun.
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