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No! Not the ducktape! Not the tape that holds the world together!! gonk

And, dammit, where the ******** are the pro-lifers when you want them? stressed I want someone to respond to that argument!!

they died when the spores entered their guild.

*fits airlock to pro-choice & debate guilds*

There mutant cabbage people, of course they can eat through metal. I thought that was a common fact! xp

In short, no.

Why? Well, simple. Because it's taking away the mother's decision of it.

As I said, you need to take both sides into consideration. Th mother, and the father. I'm saying that if the mother wants an abortion, and the father doesn't want one, she has the responsibility to consider that, because it is his child too. It's not her child. It's their child. I'm assuming that you're trying to get me to say no, because it's taking away a life, and all that, but I'm arguing that the father should have a say. It's absolutely unfair for the mother to abort if the father want's the child. It's also unfair for the father to force the woman to abort if she wants the child. Unless there can be a compromise, this issue is much more complicated than 'it's in her body, therefore, she controls its' fate.'

THAT'S not fair. You can't take destroy something that is partially, genetically, someone's responsibility as much as the person who houses it. Sure, you have it with you, But that doesn't make it any less theirs.

Yes.

For me, responsibility is what it comes down to.

That child is their responsibility, being the ones who had sex.

Sex can equal children, people need to keep that in mind when they have sex.

Have sex all you want. Just remember that if you get pregnant, it's really not fair to the child for you to get off easy by having an abortion, and killing it in the process.

That's an opinion that it's not a child.



What about the father's rights? Does this man get no right to a child that is half his? His genetics are in that child, and if he wants to keep it, she doesn't have a right to destroy it.

I say again, if I bought something with someone, and we split the money, and it was equally ours, but you kept it in your house, would you have the right to destroy it?

You just proved his point: Your opinion that it's not a child until it's born is just that; Your opinion. So don't state it as fact.


To quote someone else in this thread, (who I can't remeber at this time. I think it was Grip of Death, or something) "The father does not have an absolute right to procreate." It is NOT a right to have an offspring, so nothing of his has been violated.Oh, and the mother does? The mother has all the rights, and the father doesn't?
Ah, but the fetus isn't just removed from the womb. It's destroyed in the womb, and then disposed of outside the womb. Do you have the right to destroy that shared item, and then bury it somewhere?