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 Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:08 pm
Fighting Fefnir I'm at work so I have to be breif. You're powerplaying. You don't know how strong Afton is so you're playing him far weaker than he actually is. I could tell a good deal of stories about the feats of strength he's done. Imagine pulling hundred year old trees from root with your bare hands kind of power, and that's Afton. You keep minimizing the damage he's doing. So stop. The psionic info is handy, though. Makes it much easier to respond, I'm sure. I don't think I am but if that is how you feel I apologize deeply, it was not my intention to make anyone feel weaker or minimize a character. Though on a side note the sword stabbing into the platform, Vin sided with me and agrees based on the info of the ability. Now I can add more detail and avoid such complications. I am all for compromise and such just see things from my perspective for a second. We are one post into this match, i posted one attack trying to be creative and entertaining as possible to make people say wow that was cool. I got a Pm right away saying, -OMG SO TERRIBLE CHANGE IT NOW. Your speed hacking, power playing, and it isn't right!!!!!!- Kind of made me go "whoa, we skipped a few levels here?" Ya know what I mean. Calling my work bullshit, being mad at me for honestly what I think is nothing and an easy fix, it upsets me. we can work this out, we can make things right, all I ask is the chance to simply explain my case and after I have done so if we still can not agree I will compromise greatly until we can agree. I have nothing to prove, no ego to boost, no reason to do otherwise, yet I feel like I am being made out to be this horrible person that I am now ya know? I have no doubt Afton is strong, powerful, fast, and more then capable. However both IC and OOC I don't know any of that. I am just playing my character to my strengths, I leave any and all results or effects of Afton and how he compares up to the person controlling him, I would never tell a person what should happen to their character, I make estimated guesses off the knowledge i have of me. What happens after that is I am right or wrong, either way it is a result I have yet to see till the other person posts it. Am I way off on that or is that ok by most general standards?
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:40 pm
In order:
Losing most momentum is not all momentum. Your stop was still impossible, and the platforms do not stop the sword. The sword is cutting, meeting resistence, and slowing because of it, but you are minimizing that into non-penetration. It is also a slashing motion, not a stab.
The PM you got explained that you were doing the things I noticed. You did have to change your post because of your McFly.
Your case thus far can be boiled down to two things: one, your character weighs more and is also strong, therefore stronger than Afton; two, your character's shields are so tough that they can't be broken easily (I believe you said they were level 4s in the PMs you exchanged with her). The thing about compromise is that you have to give some, which you aren't willing to do.
I already explained that I couldn't care less about you on a personal level. I'm dealing with your post, but you insist on making it about you personally.
When you play damage out in your posts, you're minimizing damage. I have emphasized Afton is incredibly strong. She has emphasized Afton is incredibly strong. But your character only took minor damage from the shield bash in her last post. You've changed details she gave in her post to make Afton less capable and weaker than she's played him. See my examples in my other post.
Short answer, you're off on that. Your words don't match what you're doing in the fight itself.
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:31 pm
Ugh. Soooo done caring about this.
Considering they are my only real ability yes my shields are strong.
No they don't have a level, they have a Cost and Cool down. The cost is 4, NOT THE LEVEL, the cost.
...yeah know what don't care anymore, lost interest. I know who I am, don't like it then never role-play with me again, make it a point in your life to leave the thread if I post in it or ignore me completely if you wish.
We are not even two posts into the fight for christ sake and I can't do a damn thing with out one of you two PMing me that I am wrong or blasting it here in the OOC. if it had been one or two details fine no, IT IS EVERYTHING I HAVE DONE, EVERY DAMN TINY LITTLE DETAIL.
I am simply done arguing, just simply done. I will post how I feel, I shall post in the style which I feel I should and if there is any more problems I won't touch a text box until Vin tells me to do otherwise.
I am right, I know I am right, Vin explained to me what i did wrong and none of it is what you are saying now. Thus as far as I am concerned it is your OPINION, nothing more. I ain't here to impress you and get your opinions anymore, I am here to have fun.
So how about the snow today in CT, crazy it is almost april and we are getting snow.
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:40 pm
Everybody calm down.
I got this.
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:47 pm
Fefnir, if you have a problem with Samayou, discuss it with him in the PMs. It mainly places drama into the ooc, and we don't need that. Everything else has been handled accordingly.
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:51 pm
Vintrict Fefnir, if you have a problem with Samayou, discuss it with him in the PMs. It mainly places drama into the ooc, and we don't need that. Everything else has been handled accordingly. Dude i could not get any calmer if i smoked a blunt right now. LMFAO. IDK maybe i strike people the wrong way, maybe I am a terrible person and just don't know it. All i know is this is your tournament, I do what you say is right and wrong. Other then that, hows the weather where you ******** Ct dude has had temperatures shift like a ping pong ball. yesterday was like 75 and today we had snow?!?! 0_o
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:09 am
@Vintrict: I don't believe that proper steps have been taken to handle the problems I see because they keep happening. Please take another look.
@Samayou: If your usual style is powerplaying, I feel bad for people who have to RP with you. Do me a favor and shut the ******** up.
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:42 am
Jaron Kaiden Since when is bending anything other than a synonym for manipulating? A mage that manipulates fire is bending it. Even if it is via spells. Unless, of course, I'm wrong...
The difference is, as I view it, between being able to mold what is already present, and summoning something into being from nothing. Fireside does the latter: he opens a channel to the Nether (or elemental planes or w/e you want to call it) and brings the fire into being. A fire bender would be limited to manipulating fire that was already present around him.
Not to mention, Fireside also has a myriad of other spells utilizing other elements or even just plain arcana, but because they are not in his profile I can't use them in my fights.
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:12 am
Truthfully, "bending" has always been used with the arcane as well. "Bending reality/the elements to your will" and so on. There's no real difference between manipulating and bending in that respect.
But I guess since Avatar has raised the awareness that there is a distinct difference between a mage and an elementalist people need to try and create a distinction in the verbiage as well.
The distinction becomes even less necessary because there are mages who cannot perform different elemental spells without a naturally occurring source either. Just go look at some of the spells in Slayers, or spells like "Water Ball" in RO. Mages requiring a physical catalyst of sorts is nothing new.
Like seriously, the only difference between an elementalist and a mage is that a mage usually needs some kind of ritual, how minor it might be, to bend reality. An elementalist is limited to just their element, but possess a seemingly psychic control and fluidity. That's the trade off, but I'd personally take a mage's versatility any day.
In most fantasy circles you can say both and it doesn't matter, there's no real difference, and people will know what you're talking about. If someone really complains about it they're only trying to be a new age try hard.
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:23 am
Sigil Warden Jaron Kaiden Since when is bending anything other than a synonym for manipulating? A mage that manipulates fire is bending it. Even if it is via spells. Unless, of course, I'm wrong... The difference is, as I view it, between being able to mold what is already present, and summoning something into being from nothing. Fireside does the latter: he opens a channel to the Nether (or elemental planes or w/e you want to call it) and brings the fire into being. A fire bender would be limited to manipulating fire that was already present around him. Not to mention, Fireside also has a myriad of other spells utilizing other elements or even just plain arcana, but because they are not in his profile I can't use them in my fights. That's not true. Most fire manipulators manifest their flames since there's usually not any in their surroundings.
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:35 am
Most of the differences are cosmetic, at best.
The real difference is in the actual system that governs what they're doing, which has less to do with bending or magic or psionics than it has to do with what the individual player has devised for his character. You can have two characters doing pyrokinesis, but the players behind them might use entirely different systems to map/outline what their character can do.
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:56 am
all yo mommas is d**k benders
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:01 pm
Jaron Kaiden all yo mommas is d**k benders There is truth in this.
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