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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:50 pm


I'd really like a response to my previous question, Azn. -.-; I've never purposefully created anything to 'work around' the system. All of my custom jutsus/clans/weapons/anything are part of my own unique fighting style. With only 3 techniques I could kill a majority of the people in a village. With another combo of techniques I can completely drain someone dry of Chakra. -.-; Everything I make is to increase the survivability and fatality of my characters techniques.
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:08 pm


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Don't worry about it Rage. Your just wasting your time because he's just gonna make something else to protect himself from it. I expect another custom jutsu. Or he's going to edit his Kekkei Genkai. So far he has a defense for everything but this, so he's trying to argue it down.


When have I ever done that? :3

I'm trying to understand the boundaries of the clan/kekkei genkai you're creating.

You are going to create a barrier jutsu for your whole village soon. -_-
and i think you are at your custom jutsu limit.

The boundaries end at the clans that get their clan abilities after birth. Since you are born with the Excelsis KG (As i understand there bodies have not been tampered with after birth.) with the abilities and everything. So therefore you would be affected by the Tattoo. Just as you would bottom out everyone chakra if you got close to them (Before you made the changes). The purpose of the tattoo is like a Genjutsu. Once you look at it you are stuck in it's void. Since they are good Genjutsu users (As they have bonuses toward that path) it make it even harder to escape. Now they are not unstoppable but a threat to KG users.

Clans that get there so called "KG" (It's not a KG it's a clan ability) after birth are not affect because it was not part of there body during birth.

Now lets put you in a battle situation. Could you take on 3 Jounins with no problem? Could a Bloodline Crusher do the same?

For the bloodline crusher, if any of the the 3 Jounin have a KG, they would have to fight like a regular ninja. The whole purpose was to put the person with a KG on equal terms with a blood line crusher. So it would just be a normal fight.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:10 pm


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Don't worry about it Rage. Your just wasting your time because he's just gonna make something else to protect himself from it. I expect another custom jutsu. Or he's going to edit his Kekkei Genkai. So far he has a defense for everything but this, so he's trying to argue it down.


When have I ever done that? :3

I'm trying to understand the boundaries of the clan/kekkei genkai you're creating.

You are going to create a barrier jutsu for your whole village soon. -_-
and i think you are at your custom jutsu limit.

The boundaries end at the clans that get their clan abilities after birth. Since you are born with the Excelsis KG (As i understand there bodies have not been tampered with after birth.) with the abilities and everything. So therefore you would be affected by the Tattoo. Just as you would bottom out everyone chakra if you got close to them (Before you made the changes). The purpose of the tattoo is like a Genjutsu. Once you look at it you are stuck in it's void. Since they are good Genjutsu users (As they have bonuses toward that path) it make it even harder to escape. Now they are not unstoppable but a threat to KG users.

Clans that get there so called "KG" (It's not a KG it's a clan ability) after birth are not affect because it was not part of there body during birth.

Now lets put you in a battle situation. Could you take on 3 Jounins with no problem? Could a Bloodline Crusher do the same?

For the bloodline crusher, if any of the the 3 Jounin have a KG, they would have to fight like a regular ninja. The whole purpose was to put the person with a KG on equal terms with a blood line crusher. So it would just be a normal fight.


..But it doesn't. It makes them weaker sense sometimes the only reason people reach joinin is because of their kekkei genkai.

But say for instance my telekinetic clan, they would be unaffected by your kekkei genkai. xD

All the people in my village are safe, though. It's no different from trying to get stronger or what. Just how one of the hokages sacrificed their life for the village to be safe or whatever, the Mizukage is essentially doing the same thing. :3
PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:19 pm


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Don't worry about it Rage. Your just wasting your time because he's just gonna make something else to protect himself from it. I expect another custom jutsu. Or he's going to edit his Kekkei Genkai. So far he has a defense for everything but this, so he's trying to argue it down.


When have I ever done that? :3

I'm trying to understand the boundaries of the clan/kekkei genkai you're creating.

You are going to create a barrier jutsu for your whole village soon. -_-
and i think you are at your custom jutsu limit.

The boundaries end at the clans that get their clan abilities after birth. Since you are born with the Excelsis KG (As i understand there bodies have not been tampered with after birth.) with the abilities and everything. So therefore you would be affected by the Tattoo. Just as you would bottom out everyone chakra if you got close to them (Before you made the changes). The purpose of the tattoo is like a Genjutsu. Once you look at it you are stuck in it's void. Since they are good Genjutsu users (As they have bonuses toward that path) it make it even harder to escape. Now they are not unstoppable but a threat to KG users.

Clans that get there so called "KG" (It's not a KG it's a clan ability) after birth are not affect because it was not part of there body during birth.

Now lets put you in a battle situation. Could you take on 3 Jounins with no problem? Could a Bloodline Crusher do the same?

For the bloodline crusher, if any of the the 3 Jounin have a KG, they would have to fight like a regular ninja. The whole purpose was to put the person with a KG on equal terms with a blood line crusher. So it would just be a normal fight.


..But it doesn't. It makes them weaker sense sometimes the only reason people reach joinin is because of their kekkei genkai.

But say for instance my telekinetic clan, they would be unaffected by your kekkei genkai. xD

All the people in my village are safe, though. It's no different from trying to get stronger or what. Just how one of the hokages sacrificed their life for the village to be safe or whatever, the Mizukage is essentially doing the same thing. :3

It doesn't matter. If it's in your bloodline and does not manifest itself to whatever age it is still part of your bloodline inheritance you got from your family. They would all be affected. Just as you said about the Sharingan. There minds/bodies don't know how to use it. It's just not activated.
From what I know, some people in Uchiha clan don't unlock there Sharingan until they are old, or never.

And how are they not? Are they born with the skill of Telekensis?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:21 pm


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Don't worry about it Rage. Your just wasting your time because he's just gonna make something else to protect himself from it. I expect another custom jutsu. Or he's going to edit his Kekkei Genkai. So far he has a defense for everything but this, so he's trying to argue it down.


When have I ever done that? :3

I'm trying to understand the boundaries of the clan/kekkei genkai you're creating.

You are going to create a barrier jutsu for your whole village soon. -_-
and i think you are at your custom jutsu limit.

The boundaries end at the clans that get their clan abilities after birth. Since you are born with the Excelsis KG (As i understand there bodies have not been tampered with after birth.) with the abilities and everything. So therefore you would be affected by the Tattoo. Just as you would bottom out everyone chakra if you got close to them (Before you made the changes). The purpose of the tattoo is like a Genjutsu. Once you look at it you are stuck in it's void. Since they are good Genjutsu users (As they have bonuses toward that path) it make it even harder to escape. Now they are not unstoppable but a threat to KG users.

Clans that get there so called "KG" (It's not a KG it's a clan ability) after birth are not affect because it was not part of there body during birth.

Now lets put you in a battle situation. Could you take on 3 Jounins with no problem? Could a Bloodline Crusher do the same?

For the bloodline crusher, if any of the the 3 Jounin have a KG, they would have to fight like a regular ninja. The whole purpose was to put the person with a KG on equal terms with a blood line crusher. So it would just be a normal fight.


..But it doesn't. It makes them weaker sense sometimes the only reason people reach joinin is because of their kekkei genkai.

But say for instance my telekinetic clan, they would be unaffected by your kekkei genkai. xD

All the people in my village are safe, though. It's no different from trying to get stronger or what. Just how one of the hokages sacrificed their life for the village to be safe or whatever, the Mizukage is essentially doing the same thing. :3

It doesn't matter. If it's in your bloodline and does not manifest itself to whatever age it is still part of your bloodline inheritance you got from your family. They would all be affected. Just as you said about the Sharingan. There minds/bodies don't know how to use it. It's just not activated.
From what I know, some people in Uchiha clan don't unlock there Sharingan until they are old, or never.


Lol. Then it's OP. ;P
The Shinrei clan are completely dependent upon their Kekkei Genkai and can't utilize any jutsus other than that. :3 According to your argument against my clans Ex-scent ability that would make your bloodcrusher clan OP. :3
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:24 pm


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Don't worry about it Rage. Your just wasting your time because he's just gonna make something else to protect himself from it. I expect another custom jutsu. Or he's going to edit his Kekkei Genkai. So far he has a defense for everything but this, so he's trying to argue it down.


When have I ever done that? :3

I'm trying to understand the boundaries of the clan/kekkei genkai you're creating.

You are going to create a barrier jutsu for your whole village soon. -_-
and i think you are at your custom jutsu limit.

The boundaries end at the clans that get their clan abilities after birth. Since you are born with the Excelsis KG (As i understand there bodies have not been tampered with after birth.) with the abilities and everything. So therefore you would be affected by the Tattoo. Just as you would bottom out everyone chakra if you got close to them (Before you made the changes). The purpose of the tattoo is like a Genjutsu. Once you look at it you are stuck in it's void. Since they are good Genjutsu users (As they have bonuses toward that path) it make it even harder to escape. Now they are not unstoppable but a threat to KG users.

Clans that get there so called "KG" (It's not a KG it's a clan ability) after birth are not affect because it was not part of there body during birth.

Now lets put you in a battle situation. Could you take on 3 Jounins with no problem? Could a Bloodline Crusher do the same?

For the bloodline crusher, if any of the the 3 Jounin have a KG, they would have to fight like a regular ninja. The whole purpose was to put the person with a KG on equal terms with a blood line crusher. So it would just be a normal fight.


..But it doesn't. It makes them weaker sense sometimes the only reason people reach joinin is because of their kekkei genkai.

But say for instance my telekinetic clan, they would be unaffected by your kekkei genkai. xD

All the people in my village are safe, though. It's no different from trying to get stronger or what. Just how one of the hokages sacrificed their life for the village to be safe or whatever, the Mizukage is essentially doing the same thing. :3


How so? By that Logic a Bloodline Crusher is ideal if most Jounin own a Kekkai Genkai. Just because the series focuses on the Bloodlines think about all the extra chars who are just regular Ninja. Kekkai Genkai are actually an oddity. They are mutations, and mutations are VERY rare, never mind you have to get lucky and hope that somehow that one Mutation is beneficial.


Statistically speaking there are more Jounin in the series that don't have Bloodlines.

Kakashi, achieved Jounin before receiving the Sharingan.

Kurenai.

Asuma.

Gai.

Kankurou

Gaara

Temari

Shizune

And don't forget all the un-named ones that appear randomly.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:26 pm


You're removing someone elses Kekkei Genkai, then keeping your own kekkei genkai. :3 So.. You're not leveling the playing field, you're debuffing the team to give yours an advantage. xD

So don't say you're making it fair, you're only blinded by the your false truths. You're taking away from the other team. :3
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:30 pm


Umm can someone look over my custom jutsu? sweatdrop

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:31 pm


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Don't worry about it Rage. Your just wasting your time because he's just gonna make something else to protect himself from it. I expect another custom jutsu. Or he's going to edit his Kekkei Genkai. So far he has a defense for everything but this, so he's trying to argue it down.


When have I ever done that? :3

I'm trying to understand the boundaries of the clan/kekkei genkai you're creating.

You are going to create a barrier jutsu for your whole village soon. -_-
and i think you are at your custom jutsu limit.

The boundaries end at the clans that get their clan abilities after birth. Since you are born with the Excelsis KG (As i understand there bodies have not been tampered with after birth.) with the abilities and everything. So therefore you would be affected by the Tattoo. Just as you would bottom out everyone chakra if you got close to them (Before you made the changes). The purpose of the tattoo is like a Genjutsu. Once you look at it you are stuck in it's void. Since they are good Genjutsu users (As they have bonuses toward that path) it make it even harder to escape. Now they are not unstoppable but a threat to KG users.

Clans that get there so called "KG" (It's not a KG it's a clan ability) after birth are not affect because it was not part of there body during birth.

Now lets put you in a battle situation. Could you take on 3 Jounins with no problem? Could a Bloodline Crusher do the same?

For the bloodline crusher, if any of the the 3 Jounin have a KG, they would have to fight like a regular ninja. The whole purpose was to put the person with a KG on equal terms with a blood line crusher. So it would just be a normal fight.


..But it doesn't. It makes them weaker sense sometimes the only reason people reach joinin is because of their kekkei genkai.

But say for instance my telekinetic clan, they would be unaffected by your kekkei genkai. xD

All the people in my village are safe, though. It's no different from trying to get stronger or what. Just how one of the hokages sacrificed their life for the village to be safe or whatever, the Mizukage is essentially doing the same thing. :3

It doesn't matter. If it's in your bloodline and does not manifest itself to whatever age it is still part of your bloodline inheritance you got from your family. They would all be affected. Just as you said about the Sharingan. There minds/bodies don't know how to use it. It's just not activated.
From what I know, some people in Uchiha clan don't unlock there Sharingan until they are old, or never.


Lol. Then it's OP. ;P
The Shinrei clan are completely dependent upon their Kekkei Genkai and can't utilize any jutsus other than that. :3 According to your argument against my clans Ex-scent ability that would make your bloodcrusher clan OP. :3


I've had clans that can only use Kekkai Genkai techniques. That was your choice for a balance option, just because someone has a Technique that breaks yours doesn't make it OP. There are plenty of Techniques that can counteract his bloodline, it doesn't make those techniques OP.

You just got the short end of the stick on fighting him, It's like this.

I'm a Katon, it's my only element, I go up against a Fuuton user and win, then a Suiton user comes and beats me down. That doesn't mean Suiton is overpowered, it just means you have a vulnerability. All Shinobi should have them.

Everyone has to have an Achilles heel.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:35 pm


If you have to rely just on KG to beat everyone, then you are a useless ninja. I don't need the sharingan to fight. I have over 100 jutsu in my arsenal.
Rage is right, it's not my fault or his fault that it seems OP. You decided not to balance the clan out.

EDIT:

And for the final time. The bloodline crusher is a clan like the Aburame clan. The tattoo is what they recieve after birth (Has to be painted on). It is not a KG. it's a Clan ability.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:35 pm


Yeah? Then how come every threw a b***h fit because someone within a 3 yard range couldn't use their chakra?

While someone 100 yards away who looks at a member of this clan can't use their kekkei genkai? :3 Sounds a lot like hypocrisy.

Edit: LOOOL!!! I said the exact same thing whenever you complained about clans not being able to use ninjutsu. I said "if they can't use Taijutsu then they're useless." and you still complained. :3
 
PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:44 pm


No, You actually did GM your KG the first time around until everyone saw how it was used. Even some of the Crew had pm'ed me and agreed. (No names cuz they do not need to be involved). That was a good reason to throw it then.

Your throwing a b***h fit because I made a Clan that could make KG's useless to balance out the guild and make people fight on equal terms.

And to state one more time. The Bloodline Crushers are not BORN with the tattoo. They have to be put on them, so it's not a KG. Then after that, when they are done and revealed it drains there chakra just like a sharingan or Byakugan. If it's covered, they don't lose chakra. (Alot of skin will be showing when they fight wink )
So basically even a regular ninja with no KG could join the Bloodline crushers.
Though those with KG would be forfeiting their current KG if they wanted to join the clan (Dunno why you would do that.)

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:44 pm


ApeKz Fe3r
Yeah? Then how come every threw a b***h fit because someone within a 3 yard range couldn't use their chakra?

While someone 100 yards away who looks at a member of this clan can't use their kekkei genkai? :3 Sounds a lot like hypocrisy.

Edit: LOOOL!!! I said the exact same thing whenever you complained about clans not being able to use ninjutsu. I said "if they can't use Taijutsu then they're useless." and you still complained. :3


Let's not get personal. And I'm not trying to gang up on you man but look...

Stopping all chakra means they can't use any techniques, they can't open gates. That's it. It stops everything, whereas Crusher only stops KG techniques. And you can just as easily fight back using your other Ninjutsu, Kenjutsu, Taijutsu, hell you can even counteract it with a genjutsu.

I can think of a 100 ways to beat down his clan. If you have a clan that relies completely on KG techniques then you just got unlucky fighting the one clan that can break it, which is why you have Squads.

His Crush clan has 0 effect on Aburame, Nara, Yamanaka, ETC.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:44 pm


*is exhausted and not bothing to read what has been written so far other then a snip-bit of text that caught her eye for some reason* I am playing a non-aligned bloodline... And I have a character mapped out for after the new villages open that is also non-aligned. I don't like the Bloodline limits very much... I find they over complicate the character and make it too easy to over power and god mod... not to mention bloodline limits are supposed to be special... and how can they be special if everyone has them?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:45 pm


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No, You actually did GM your KG the first time around until everyone saw how it was used. Even some of the Crew had pm'ed me and agreed. (No names cuz they do not need to be involved). That was a good reason to throw it then.

Your throwing a b***h fit because I made a Clan that could make KG's useless to balance out the guild and make people fight on equal terms.

And to state one more time. The Bloodline Crushers are not BORN with the tattoo. They have to be put on them, so it's not a KG. Then after that, when they are done and revealed it drains there chakra just like a sharingan or Byakugan. If it's covered, they don't lose chakra. (Alot of skin will be showing when they fight wink )
So basically even a regular ninja with no KG could join the Bloodline crushers could join them.
Though those with KG would be forfeiting their current KG if they wanted to join the clan (Dunno why you would do that.)


It wasn't a God Mod like your clan is now. -.-;

My KG only affected people within a certain distance while yours is a "Genjutsu" that affects everyone who looks at it with no way to deflect it, of course besides closing your eyes. ;P
 
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