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I have cast my vote.

I'm fully aware your against what I've brought up. As you were in previous discussions. Like I've said. I wouldn't care so much if there was a decent answer other than the trolly s**t in those conversations- then telling people to watch Supernatural for an example of how to deal with it. I'm perfectly fine with demons being physically stronger than humans. That isn't my problem.

Its the fact in the current system they are not only stronger physically but magically due to a much higher qi pool. It makes human fairly obsolete if you think about it. That was all I was getting at. ;(

/votes been casted long ago.

I'm.. so. glad we are being civil today. |; Not sure why opening up discussions is such a bad thing.
All I've done, was bring up something that was bothering me. As, I've no problem with demons having inherit strengths over humans. None at all. What is funny about this- is honestly. I wasn't really trying to force change. Rather bringing up what I saw as a problem. What was done with it is obviously up to you two.

Regardless, should every fight between lets.. go with relatively equal ranking demons and humans end up with a potentially "easy" victory for a demon simply because their qi pool is a little less than double that of a humans?
If we look at magic casting only. Demons do not have limitations of post limits and their spells cost less in general. Okay. Humans "spells" cost more and often require multiple posts before taking effect. It can be argued which is "stronger" and that is where I guess I'm curious. If- humans are actually supposed to be able to challenge a demon in a fight, and not just be a sissy push over then where does their strength lie? On some honor system where someone says a fatal verse is potentially stronger than an apparitions' spell? But is it really?

Its these kinds of things I was hoping to spark conversation into.

Hahahahaha. We are pulling the professionalism card are we?
Alright. Lol. Moving on now.


The game example was brought up to show the fact there is currently no benefit to being human. And in a way is a hindrance to choose to be one. Which is true. Demons have benefits of superior strength, superior qi thus superior skills as a caster. In skyrim as you’ve mentioned there is a number of “stats” that make a certain races superior and inferior in different ways. Those don’t currently exist here and that is part of what I was getting at.

The game I was thinking of was FF14, due to having more recently played it. Yet pulling up the stats page for the 8 or so subraces as an example seemed a bit extreme. As they balance it with every race having a subrace that either makes a superior “fighter” or a better mage- either black or white. But to fully understand it requires knowing and what each stat means in the game context. So I went into that vaguely.

And no, the “why” demons have a superior qi pool wasn’t explained in the old chatter box. It was very much trolly answers and yes you did refer to Supernatural as an example of how to deal with them as a human. These things were explained here. And after I posted in suggestions o0? A demon’s strength more or less was explained prior with something of a serious answer. But- that wasn’t my main complaint. Rather, the stacking of “benefits” Demons currently enjoy.

Anyways I’m done. We’ve more or less come to agreement on the things that are actually important. Further arguments are just mudslinging. Because we clearly don’t see eye to eye and that is fine.

Look, guys. Looking at it like a RP with a system made for combat, demons are all round stronger than humans even when you have a demon D class vs a Human D class. Elinoi is saying that it's not balanced and I agree. Examples or not, a game or anything competitive shouldnt have a race that is stronger than teh rest in both physical and magical strength.

I thought Koga put the rank system to balance that and it is fairly effective but not in the practical scenario of combat since Qi and physical strength are the two tools of battle. I would have suggested demons get a closer Qi count to that of humans or similar strength. Something that would balance the two races. A stat system would ultimately solve it but its a drag to manage, I think.

We understand what the concerns are, Ed. They were just presented in a poor manner. A system is coming that will work for everyone. However, it will take work by the user to gain these perks (such as constant posting). We're hoping to increase activity as well as address these concerns with the new system. This is all I can disclose at this time, as it is still in the workings.

I just hope Russia and Ukraine calm down. If Russia doesn't, then America will step in. We don't like Russia too much, especially when they begin to bully other countries.

I just hope America minds its own business for once. As heartless as that seems, we always get ourselves in trouble with the world's messes. We help the world, but the minute America is in trouble, the world won't help us. Maybe Russia and China will get at each other to where they have exhausted all military and won't be a threat to America again for a while. If Obama does nothing, good. I really don't want us to fight Russia. They will collapse in on themselves again soon enough. I know Russians who are very unhappy that Ukraine is being invaded.