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Both sigs are PG-13, and both imply at least some varying levels of intimacy. Nana might not go down on Mas (Poor guy xd ) but in the end it's all the same. Two characters that do have sex, for one reason or another.

Really siggy art of any avatar is kind of sad. I only have so much of it because I adore myself. Well, my avatar at least. It's dead sexy..or...was.

Kobei, what pains me the most is that we're so obviously on different levels of understanding.

The point of what I said was not to degrade you for your sigs. The point was that you called me childish because I was somewhat hostile with someone else. That's analogous to me calling you childish or worse, a slut, because your sig depicts you and someone else in a sexually explicit way. Is that clear enough for you?

On the topic of ranting, it depends on the person. It can be helpful or just inflamatory of the person's problem depending on what the result is.

I'm not enjoying this conversation anymore than you are, Kobei, so why don't we just end it here. Our understandings of things are clearly very different and it's more likely to be destructive to continue this conversation.

KB, I would rather be and idiot in your eyes and the eyes of everyone in this guild than be a hypocrite who said straight out to me in an instant message that you would break the rules to accomplish interfering with someone else's storyline. I don't care who's older or younger than me in this guild, it seems to matter little in terms of maturity. Furthermore, you KB have consented to GMing in the past, so your problems with some GMs as opposed to others are very shady.

Mastema, under near force and after some time I concluded that certain levels were appropriate. It was one thing, the Dojo regeneration. The only reason I had ever accepted it was because it was for the ENTIRE guild and for the sake of simplicity. Furthermore, the Dojo thread was much more active back then. As we can see, the lack of activity made it vulnerable, so I have no quams about it.

I have problems about you using it to cover you and your.... You and Nana. Simply because Nana plays passive characters and you're simply inadequate. Not good reasons to establish a personal GM tool. Shouldn't be playing a villain if you can't take the heat.

Use GM? Consider it fighting fire with fire. As opposed to you, who's simply an idiotic player who has to GM to keep themselves alive, I could GM on a level that'd be both understanding and applicable. It's not quite class, but rather it's the difference between being a player with a complex and a Game Master. Or a DM, Dungeon Master if you will. You may consider such formal or bordered styles of roleplay silly or something, but I assure you ever-dominating flawless control of a DM is apporpriate for storyline.

It's why I had suggested you incorporate such a thing into the guild. Clearly define who was in charge and leading guildwide storyplots and such. Make your uselessness useful. Turns your weakness into strength. It's not that I don't contribute, but rather that you don't listen. Why? Because everything I say makes sense, and you often just ramble self-promoting crap that everyone sees through the moment I bring it up front.

Kobei, I've been trying for the past half an hour or so to help you understand, but obviously I haven't done that sufficiently, which is why I suggest we end it here before there's further misunderstanding.

Unfortunately, I dont' have Tegral's IM, and from my experience, people who are unpleasant in the guild forums tend to be even more unpleasant on an instant messenger, myself included I'd believe.

I'll just leave it at this; it would probably be beneficial if you were more careful with your words in the future. I wouldn't have responded the way I did if I didn't feel that you were being more offensive than attempting to be a mediator.

That's the thing with you KB. "Certain levels." Seems like a clear indication that you're being arbitrary. Being arbitrary in itself is nothing wrong or new, but when you're expressing that with other people, it leads to a lot of problems most of the time.

I think I'll put out my central thought right here: I believe you're claiming that my barrier is god modded simply because you want to get in and mingle; there is no other reason. If you had a problem with my barrier, it should have been made long, long ago. But when is it that you started complaining? The moment you start trying to get in it. Not that everyone would share the same view, but I think it's oddly suspicious.

You say I use GM to keep my character alive; I say you use GM to keep your character alive. Again, that's arbitary. Nothing more to say on that matter.

Now on the idea of a game master, good lord how quickly this guild would become repetitious if I selected a permanent game master. When someone creates an RP that they invite others to join, Kai's Hathus RP for example, the game master is clearly the one who designed the event, in t he aformentioned case it would be Kai. However, to select a permanent game master to preside over every event..... sounds like an eventual disaster to me. I think it would start out working well, but would quickly become repetitious, and my idea of a good RP is continually branching out.

KB I don't dislike the ideas you do have because they don't make sense; I dislike them because they're only temporary solutions. Another thought that bothers me is that you say you would be all right with all this if a designated game master said it was okay, all of this god modding. To leave one person in charge of the entire role play is too much in my opinion, because the person would be subject to so much bias and prejudice it's discomforting. The idea of the game master is given when someone designs an RP, since that person will obviously lead the story, but making one in charge of them all is something I don't think will work. If your idea, in case I misunderstood it, is to have the role switch with the RPs, then I think it's inherent and doesn't need definition.

Actually, the original distressed point regarding the barrier was put forth much longer ago, by both myself and Akki if I believe, on the Sanctuary. On that thread, you had a similar if not less-explained version of the barrier that wasn't made by Than as far as I know. That barrier also kept people out, everyone except the people you let in, whilst you were holding captives and all that jazz. So really, it's something I voiced against long long ago. Back then I got equally if not more frustrated, but was less mature and my opinion was voiced as simple ranting rage,. Eventually the problem came to be no more as that thread died, but once more came into play on the new place.

This barrier style of yours is nothing new, nothing new at all.

As for the whole DM/GM idea, I was thinking of it as a position. One for people who are suitable. Just as we have OOC moderators who resolve rules, threads, and posts, and as we have villains IC that're supposed to keep the ball rolling, we could have a GM/DM position that'd govern other IC aspects such as NPC's and such events. Using Kai once again as an example. It seems she showed an excellent capacity for such a position. Teamwork would be vital yes, but I assure you it'd be no more monotonous then the schemes MAs comes up with, or anyone else for that matter.

Hell, it's not like we're facing any variety here. This guild has about 5-7 active members that post regularly. We don't have the luxury of variety in any respect.

It's not so much that we shouldn't be entitled to variety, but rather that almost all the current active members are oldies that've exhausted a lot of storyline. I mean, D and Phia having a new kid might be nice, but in the end we mostly know each other intimately enough player to player to recognize posting style and character bases. It's much like you playing Than and Mas, one can see the connections in both style and outlook.

Obviously I wouldn't complain against the barrier so much if it wasn't in my way. Awhile back when I was hellbent on destroying the Citadel, it was just something in my way I found stupid. Still annoying, though now I only shoot at you for the fun of bothering you. xd

Indeed. When it all boils down to it, we need more members. If there were more members, I'd have more people to pick on and children to eat. Things would be much easier and suchnot. I think that the GGN is the core of the death. Perhaps we should keep this place alive and try and reinstate the previous BC in the other RP sections of gaia? Build up a character/player base and then filter them into the GGN as we see them progess. Effectively have the VIP area of roleplaying.

Or you know, we could keep it all at the old Dojo. Just keep things going for awhile. Not abandon this place or the history, but rather refresh things.

On a side note MSN is being mean and won't sign me in... gonk