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 Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 5:32 pm
Thanatos_M No no, the word was banished domokun But Eecheb actually missed the whole point of the story; Mas didn't threaten to do anything. Just more proof that the bible is incoherent xp But I plan some events sometime in the future that might sway the kids a little more to Mastema's side. Also consider he wasn't even 6 months old at the time. sweatdrop
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 5:34 pm
DustyMemory Indeed.
And banished, from the Citadel? That's not so bad really. I can hardly think Nana would uphold such a tragic style of punishment anyhow. Given the violent nature out the outside area around the Citadel, and Mas essentially leaving the children to fend for themselves.
I think Mas would get smacked. I can forsee Nana saying something crazy and womanly like "We've already lost one child, let's not lose two!!!" crying Probably, but it's in her nature to be gentle. She'd not want any harm to befall her children, and she even cares for those she doesn't like aswell. In her own way. 3nodding
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 5:35 pm
DustyMemory The story of Cain and Abel isn't incoherent. In fact, it's incredibly simple. Incredibly. Then it must have been all of Mastema's big words that confused Eecheb! heart
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 5:39 pm
Possibly..... then again maybe the story was too simple sweatdrop the problem with using pure archetypal stories, really........ Oh well, Eecheb will hopefully learn sooner or later.
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 5:40 pm
Hopefully sooner. sweatdrop
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 5:41 pm
Sheep/Plants = God prefers to see the gift of appreciation of his creation, as opposed to the work of man trying to achieve something. God has never really seemed to be a fan of Man's ingenuity, given that such things were taken from the tree of knowledge against God's orders.
The jealousy of having one brother accepted and the other denied, is self-explanatory.
Given the early age of humanity at this time, and that they were the first sons, Cain and Abel had no moral compass. There were no laws, only the surges of feelings. Cain got mad, and killed Abel.
God asks about Abel, and Cain denies knwoing where he is. This part of the story is meant to enforce the fact that god is all-knowing, and aware of our very sin.
At this point Cain begs forgiveness in a sense, for God marks him as a killer. Complaining that the others will kill him for what he is, God bestows upon him the blessing that anyone who injures him would have the same come back to them seven times great. (Or close to 7).
That part of the story basically is meant to show that God is compassionate, and that He, not man, is meant to pass judgement.
All and all, whether you believe in the bible or not, the stories hold a few morals in them and some cool information. Mythical things such as seraphim and angels are all attributed to THE god, though different religions have different stories for these creatures.
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 5:50 pm
Oh I don't deny that. There are some very good archetypal stories in the bible and other works. The First murder, the loss of Eden, The creation of the world, etc.
Those implications on living beings can be helpful, but they really do little to prove that God has much more than a face to make himself look good. Several facts in the combination of the bible as a whole show that God is neither all knowing nor compassionate. A tyrant would be a better way to show what I've perceived of him through that story in particular
but religious interpretations aside, the tree of knowledge and the tree of power are two concepts which I find pretty interesting.
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 5:53 pm
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 5:57 pm
I believe in God, I don't follow him. In my eyes he isn't what the bible makes him out to be, or rather he is exactly what they make him out to be. Tyrant would be a perfect word to describe him in my opinion. I simply find it hypocritical to forsake people, and then blame it on their wickedness. Being all-knowing, he'd know their fate, so isn't he the one evil for not changing it?
I also believe man is god, we're just slowly on our way to getting there. It took but a taste to open our eyes, and one day we'll see fully what we weren't meant to.
I also believe in balance. Balance is one of the key things that defines the entire universe without exception. That said, The devil wouldn't be god's counter-balance. From the void God made all things, made the universe. A mere unruly angel couldn't be the counter-balance to a being that is the ultimate good.
That's why I think there's either an unrecorded evil that matches God for strength, or God is the good and the bad. God being the nuetral force that defines all things. He's nice, but he'll ******** you up right good as well.
*Shrug* It's all too much to argue anyhow... People usually just get flustered at the subject.
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 5:58 pm
He gave us free will, so we can screw up all we want to or not. It is our choice. But enough of that... Where is evryone else? gonk *RP urge*
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 6:01 pm
*begins to contemplate the innumerable ways he's going to make Mastema suffer now that he's got a chance to kill him*
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 6:01 pm
Well i'm right here and also in the rp mood.
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 6:03 pm
Michael Grieves Well i'm right here and also in the rp mood. *pats* You and me both... hmm, that ball still up?
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 6:07 pm
Send me a Pm if you guys are gonna rp or something.
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 6:07 pm
DustyMemory I believe in God, I don't follow him. In my eyes he isn't what the bible makes him out to be, or rather he is exactly what they make him out to be. Tyrant would be a perfect word to describe him in my opinion. I simply find it hypocritical to forsake people, and then blame it on their wickedness. Being all-knowing, he'd know their fate, so isn't he the one evil for not changing it?
I also believe man is god, we're just slowly on our way to getting there. It took but a taste to open our eyes, and one day we'll see fully what we weren't meant to.
I also believe in balance. Balance is one of the key things that defines the entire universe without exception. That said, The devil wouldn't be god's counter-balance. From the void God made all things, made the universe. A mere unruly angel couldn't be the counter-balance to a being that is the ultimate good.
That's why I think there's either an unrecorded evil that matches God for strength, or God is the good and the bad. God being the nuetral force that defines all things. He's nice, but he'll ******** you up right good as well.
*Shrug* It's all too much to argue anyhow... People usually just get flustered at the subject. lol... wow a good lot of that I have quite similar views to 3nodding You and I need to talk theology sometime But in this RP the only redeeming thing to Mas about God is that he spurred Nana's creation xp j/k
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