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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:27 pm
-.- hmm, guess this means another time skip is due yeah?
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:13 pm
Would that change anything?
I think the situation will stay the same unless we do some kind of magic trick so that the active players suddenly are on one place or something.
Even if we do a time skip, we are still with the inactive players.
Arg, I don't know how to correctly explain what I mean in English.
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:46 pm
First question is has anyone heard from whoever we're actually waiting on? That's the big issue I suppose
You're right about us just getting into the same situation though, I guess Nek saying we should give up managing the timelines between the threads is the right way to go but the problem is that one way two people just run wild posting through days at a time... the other way we get bottlenecked entirely since everyone gets involved in anything going on and we have to wait for however long it takes for someone to post.
Honestly I don't know what to do either since we will just be stuck again whatever we do, you are right about that. We can't exactly be fair for everyone since this happens where we're stuck... any way I look at it it still comes back to the whole 'experience' crap shouldn't work as it was being said before.
I do admit I'm confused as to why everyone decided to always gather in one thread and keep starting plot points ontop of each other though...
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:12 am
I understood the first part but not the last part lol.
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:07 pm
I guess it's just me being pissed that for an RP which is suppose to have some kind of experience system factored into it, that we stop again and again and move so little when we actually mange to get moving again..
Uhhm, I suppose the rest is seeing the whole bit where if I see one story going on usually Bao or Nek decides to jump in with their plots on top of whatever is going on to the point where we've maybe moved through a week in everything that's been going on since once one of their stories starts everyone gathers in the thread they're using and we have to slow down for the rotation.
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:09 pm
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:40 pm
lolwut I still don't get it
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:48 pm
Ok, Nar here's a version of that just for you... Just assume I have so little to do with my life that I can afford to be pissed off that this RP moves a post a day or less for me.
I'm used to where I could post in an RP and get someone replying twenty minutes later at most.
That version work for you Nar?
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:55 pm
oic, yea
I was just confused about you and the plot. It sounded like coming up with a plot is pointless, the way you said it.
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 3:44 pm
Errm, I guess I wasn't clear then about the plot bit
It's not pointless, I was trying to get across that it's just annoying how it seems like whenever one person starts something with the plot then another will decide to force their own plot over the first
That make sense?
edit: Though I do admit, I wouldn't mind if we quit it with the guild wide plot developments for a while and return to the smaller individual stories. The big guild events usually last around a month or two when people are active for them. That can't exactly work since it's hard to expect anyone to stick around for one plot at that length of time.
My point of view of the plots as things have been 1. Log in see if someone posted this week 2. Soon get frustrated that this is being drawn out 3. (Optional) That frustration results in anger at watching people run wild with their ability to post like mad when you're online while you're stuck. 4. Have enough time to care about the little details that someone's ignoring or writing off, resulting in a OOC fight. 5. Become annoyed at the cop out ending pulled to get out of the plot development 6. Get angry/frustrated anew at the lack of anyone wanting to RP (due to I assume either my actions, or their own dissatisfaction with the RP as it was) and begin posting to myself resulting in my own stories becoming crap little skirmishes between my own characters and no one else.
edit2: I probably sound like a brat, selfish, or whatever phrasing it like that, but to me the whole point of being in an RP is entertainment, not doing something that you feel you have to fight over more then your work. Or at least that's how it comes out when I make it simple while being extremely pissed at a lot
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:37 pm
Huh. So you're saying that we should all be secluded and RP by ourselves with one on one things? Last I checked this is a guild, and I remember the old GNA, you guys DID do individual story lines, and no one cared except for the people in the story line (understandable tbh). A lot of people got left out, and a lot of people left GNA, including me.
Yea the RP does go slow, but that's because people are busy IRL or something or w/e. At least that's what was explained.
I'm sorry, but n.o. to the individual story lines. I dk where they're going with the plot, but, I feel involved for once. Like, idk, this is the first time at GNA where I'm like, not being ignored. I dk if I'm the only one who feels that way or not. I couldn't understand half of those #'s you listed because they were very generalized and apparently you're like, specifically not mentioning certain people or something. I dk what that's about. I mean seriously if you want to do smaller individual stories then do it over PM or make a thread in Barton town. No one's stopping you. In fact, even if you did go to individual stories, nothing would change. People would still be busy etc, so I don't think that would solve anything...
And no, this isn't an argument, this is a discussion lol. So let's keep talking about this because there's obviously a problem here. Otherwise it wouldn't have been brought up, right.
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:14 pm
Nar, aren't you the person running the Bao steel account?( I mean I obviously could be wrong because A) no one has told me who runs the account and B) my shot in the dark is because his signature is hosted on your photobucket account.) I'm not feeling left out so much as wanting to be left out of that person's plot, just for the fact that engaging machinery or nameless forces who are apparently always a step ahead in terms of straight and you're left absolutely in the dark with their skill sets.
Right now you're right, maybe I do need to go and RP by myself in a Barton Town RP just so I stop keeping this as my primary RP, I really don't know since as it is I'm just letting myself get fed up over and over since sadly even when I was being left out I was having more fun then I am now. Maybe that's because my character is suppose to have progressed but seems to have stayed in the same place if not lost skill.
You are right about people leaving or being busy, and so I admit people would get left out, but right now when I look back at the way the Bao Steel plot runs my leaving in the middle of any of them wouldn't have halted the RP for everyone as what's happening now with Reeve, Tut, or whoever we're actually waiting on.
Basically I just hate getting forced to the sidelines, I mean character growth is nonexistent anymore so I don't see how my character could get to the point of graduating the Nameless minion phase to actually matter again in one of those plots against a player character.
As for my saying we should run smaller groups to move faster... Well if you look back it was being done anyway and they obviously were having more fun because of it even though this is a guild and they could have been running it elsewhere.
As for leaving people's names out, I feel saying who falls into what will change this from a discussion to argument. Hence why I left that information out in hopes of being vague enough to be civil about it.
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:10 am
No actually it's not me. Yes it is hosted on my photobucket because I showed it to her, so she used it since it's practically what Bao looks like. But that's not me RPing him.
And actually I see you use skills that I've never seen or heard of before either. You throwing someone into outterspace or something? Harry Potter's closet of requirement or w/e that was in the Rai Dojo(at least that's what it seems to me)? Flying/summoning mechs that are way more advanced from what we fought in the Main Dojo (Bao's turtle things)? Hypocritical statements etcetc? I find it ridiculous actually. More so than what I've seen Steel do so far. So I dk what Bao is doing wrong that you aren't as guilty of, to be fair. I mean honestly, same with Tutsumi, he uses skills that are copied from other anime's or something.
You're the one who chooses to leave, I don't understand lol. No one's forcing you to leave. You chose to leave the thread, I don't get what you're... like.. doing. No one said you can't participate. I don't see anybody forcing you to the side. I don't. Maybe if I saw you RPing in the same place as everyone else, by your own choice, and then getting ignored.. then yea I could see that. But that's not what happened sooo...
To recap, you said "I'm not feeling left out so much as wanting to be left out of that person's plot". But then you go and say, "Basically I just hate getting forced to the sidelines", which would be a lie according to the last statement..? You're not going to the fights because you don't want to. Not because you're forced. You chose not to go to the fights; so don't say "I get forced out". That's not accurate.
I mean I really do not understand your side of the story as of this point. Now Iri's going to jump in and be like OMGWARISSTARTING IN OOC THREAD LOL
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 1:41 pm
*clutches head* Ok, first the mechs and weird space stuff. Both of those have been around for a while. The mech was in fact Neko's idea of how I should fight his robot. He said he figured I'd just pull a mech out of subspace or something at the time and I went ahead with it. Originally the stupid ring thing was just going to fight the mech.
The throwing someone into space bit is because the simple version is that Lina's version of the subspace pocket is flawed unlike neko's lab. I mostly suggested it as a joking way to allow for Iri to let her characters have a place to train in a vacuum. It wasn't more then a page or two before Dalcon went and broke through the roof of that.
As for the rest of the futuristic junk you're right it's bullshit and I know it. I also would like to point out it's only uses have been against Nek's forces who were using their own sci-fi worthy gear. Dalcon being 'thrown out into splace' resulting from removing science fiction worthy implants that aren't standard medical jutsu removal as far as I know.
Oh and the flying, if you mean Rai Shushin is something my character learned from trial and error of copying her sensei while she had him. It and Rai blades were techniques she had been working on before the change over, considering time passed and she saw both techniques enough to finish her own versions make sense?
I do agree I choose to leave and maybe I do choose to leave and you're right whatever. Simple answer here is I'm just going to shut up then. I've explained my part and who I explained it to doesn't see it as I see it, so I suppose that's all I can say.
No, it's not a lie, one relates to the other. Because I'm forced to the sidelines fights against nameless foes or the machinery I thus want to be left out of that person's plot. Fighting against a team of completely blank/unknown characters that would in the end have no effect on the others fight as they could one shot it due to their characters 'higher experience' rating that over something of an unknown nature seems a pointless waste of time. I guess it's the fighting the unknown skill level of technique base, I mean I understand that in reality that's how things would work, but in an RP to me that drops it to pointless fighting when there's the big player character brawl going on next door so to speak. Because that unknown nature protects the person GMing the RP for if someone they feel is a big hitter wants to come over and take care of the problem. I've seen it done plenty of times before and maybe I'm alone in thinking it's a sort of ******** off to people that's letting them participate, only they're in a different box on a shelf somewhere while everyone else is on the table.
I suppose I can't expect anyone else to understand what my point of view is. I've tried to say it but I'm obviously not making enough sense.
Though I guess given my mood this week I probably have even less chance of making sense.
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 3:30 pm
I understood the first part, and thank you for explaining that.
The 2nd part about getting pushed to the side just doesn't sit well with my understanding. I've seen you fight Bao's people like once or twice and that's it. Not enough times to figure out what their weak points were. I mean if it was realistic, they wouldn't immediately give out their weak points in the first fights, right? Idk I'm just trying to make sense of what's going on.
I understand you don't want to talk about this anymore so I'll stop here if you want to reply one more time.
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