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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 1:57 pm
Hmmm...nice Asuna. Very nice. Well since Tosen crossed over into the Hollow world wouldn't he not be a Shinigami anymore? But a Arrancar? But also a Vizard? ******** up dude, ******** up...
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 1:58 pm
The mask is a second Shikai and the cricket form is Bankai.
If you have Bankai you don't need to say the release command for Shikai.
Ichigo's Hollowified Form if it's a Resurrecion, can apparently be activated without the need for words. What's to say that Tousen's Resurrecion or whatever it is cannot be activated with a false statement. He may call it a Resurrecion but it's actually a Bankai.
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 2:00 pm
Shizuka Meiyo Hmmm...nice Asuna. Very nice. Well since Tosen crossed over into the Hollow world wouldn't he not be a Shinigami anymore? But a Arrancar? But also a Vizard? ******** up dude, ******** up... My theory is that he rejected every single tie he had as a shinigami and allowed his soul to be overtaken. Remember Hollows used to be human souls as well and human souls CAN turn into hollows, so it's not too hard to believe that Tousen crossed over into Soul Corruption like that, what with the help of the Dragon Balls Hougyoku and all. He didn't wanna be a shinigami so he stopped being one
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 2:01 pm
Well because he had a Hollow mask. Which means he is now a Vizard. But then he activated the ability of becoming a being using Resurrecion. So he is a Arrancar. But he can use his Zanpakuto abilities? (He didn't when using the mask, nor did he in the Resurrecion state. He used Arrancar-like abilities.
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 2:01 pm
But if his mask was a second shikai, then he would need his zanpakuto with him. And as the other two he was fighting knew him for ages, they would probably notice a different Zanpakuto. And if his 'new bankai' gave him sight, why wouldn't he have used it earlier?
Though it is possible that his zanpakuto changed from the original due to the hogyoku.
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 2:02 pm
Pein Namikaze Asuna Muteki Mk I My truths remain as theories only because people like to argue. Same with Albert Einstein. An arrancar's zanpakuto isn't part of their soul, it's their true form sealed into a sword. Hollowification results in a mask, so he released that mask, and became that ugly cricket. Ichigo unknowingly released his own mask, or the Hollow Ichigo did it as a last resort, resulting in that elite bad a** Actually, all I need to deny your 'truth' on the arrancar's zanpakuto not being part of their soul is: Looky at Primera Espada On another note, Tite makes his s**t up as he goes along most(not all, I repeat, NOT ALL) of the time, has even said as much from what I understand and have heard from my sources. Either way, just wait for the data and artbooks and you'll all have your answers I reject all of your statements except one. The fact is Tite has come up with all sorts of things and never bothered to explain them just to leave people like us wondering. He's an idiot and a bad writer, because if he wasn't, we'd know what Zero Division did, we'd have seen a real Vasto Lorde, and Starrk wouldn't be a walking pile of arrancar contradictions. Speaking of what Tousen is Shizuka, I'm letting somebody else try to be the HM leader, since my man is taking a break. He said he wanted to be a perfect combination of Hollow and Shinigami, something between Arrancar and Vizard. Did ask you for permission?
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 2:04 pm
Kiiyashi But if his mask was a second shikai, then he would need his zanpakuto with him. And as the other two he was fighting knew him for ages, they would probably notice a different Zanpakuto. And if his 'new bankai' gave him sight, why wouldn't he have used it earlier? Though it is possible that his zanpakuto changed from the original due to the hogyoku. True...
@Asuna: He did not. but the other guy did.
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 2:06 pm
Notice. Tousen's 'Resurrecion' does not make sense to begin with.
He marvels at the wonder of sight.
And yet names a move in it.
If he knew he had sight in it he wouldn't be amazed at it so we can deduce he's never used it before but, because he's got a named move in it, that means he must have used it.
Or. Can't Zanpakto teach their wielders techniques? Therefore, is it not possible that he learnt the names of his moves from his Zanpakto.
Why didn't he use it and where was it? Good question. Completely unanswerable.
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 2:07 pm
Asuna Muteki Mk I Pein Namikaze Asuna Muteki Mk I My truths remain as theories only because people like to argue. Same with Albert Einstein. An arrancar's zanpakuto isn't part of their soul, it's their true form sealed into a sword. Hollowification results in a mask, so he released that mask, and became that ugly cricket. Ichigo unknowingly released his own mask, or the Hollow Ichigo did it as a last resort, resulting in that elite bad a** Actually, all I need to deny your 'truth' on the arrancar's zanpakuto not being part of their soul is: Looky at Primera Espada On another note, Tite makes his s**t up as he goes along most(not all, I repeat, NOT ALL) of the time, has even said as much from what I understand and have heard from my sources. Either way, just wait for the data and artbooks and you'll all have your answers I reject all of your statements except one. The fact is Tite has come up with all sorts of things and never bothered to explain them just to leave people like us wondering. He's an idiot and a bad writer, because if he wasn't, we'd know what Zero Division did, we'd have seen a real Vasto Lorde, and Starrk wouldn't be a walking pile of arrancar contradictions. Speaking of what Tousen is Shizuka, I'm letting somebody else try to be the HM leader, since my man is taking a break. He said he wanted to be a perfect combination of Hollow and Shinigami, something between Arrancar and Vizard. Did ask you for permission? So because everything is non-conclusive, you're automatically right? Love, just like Tite You Fail at Logic Forever
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 2:08 pm
The Kuro no Shinigami fellow with his full hybrid idea?
Tousen knew he had the resurreccion, just never used it. just like my arrancar
I have enough confidence in his bad writing and my intuition too know I will be proven right eventually.
Plus, I've been to Singapore.
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 2:09 pm
She does have a point Pein.
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 2:09 pm
Tite isn't an idiot. Some of the things he has come up with a pure genius. Have you ever heard of a manga where every little detail was explained right away...? Information is released as it is needed.
In bleach it started with the abilities of everything being released as it was needed. Naruto, it is stuff like the mangekyou sharingan and abiilities such as summoning. One Piece, the sea stones.
It happens in everything.
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 2:12 pm
Asuna Muteki Mk I The Kuro no Shinigami fellow with his full hybrid idea? Tousen knew he had the resurreccion, just never used it. just like my arrancar I have enough confidence in his bad writing and my intuition too know I will be proven right eventually. Plus, I've been to Singapore. Singapore...?
Well yes him.
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 2:14 pm
I see his profile has the Resurreccion in it. Did you allow his full hybrid creature?
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 2:16 pm
Asuna Muteki Mk I I see his profile has the Resurreccion in it. Did you allow his full hybrid creature? I told him not a full Vizard creature.
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