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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 2:53 pm


Hawk_McKrakken
I've got a pronunciation question...

How do you pronounce the "ch" in riechen? Is pronounced like the ch in "Blech," "Loch" or just as a "k"? I've honestly never heard anyone say a word with "iech" before.

It's pronounced like the 'ch' in 'Blech', 'sich', 'mich', 'streichen',... (you get the point?) My guess is that when the 'ch' follows after either an 'e', 'ie', 'i' or 'ei', it is pronounced like a soft 'ch', almost like the 'h' in 'hihi' or 'hehe'.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:10 pm


Yeah, I know how they ch's are pronounced... but I've just never seen the letter combination of "iech" before, so I didn't know what the ch sounded like. =/

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:46 pm


By the way... can anyone tell me when I'm supposed to use the damn Nominative, Genitive, Accusative and Dative cases? I know what the forms are, but I don't know when to use each one or why.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:33 pm


Hawk_McKrakken
By the way... can anyone tell me when I'm supposed to use the damn Nominative, Genitive, Accusative and Dative cases? I know what the forms are, but I don't know when to use each one or why.
I'd take it slow and try to master the Nominative and Accusative first.

The nominative is the subject of your sentense.

I will eat pizza. "I" is the subject.
Ich werde Pizza essen. "Ich" is the subject just like "I" is in the English sentense.


Pizza is the direct object, also known as the accusative. And "der" turns into "den". Mein(for a masculine word) turns into "meinen", "ein" into "einen", etc.

I will give my mom a pizza. Ich werde meiner Mutti eine Pizza geben.

This shows the dative case. The dative is your indirect object. In this case, meiner Mutti/my mom. You can tell if it's the dative case because you can put "to" or "for" in front of the word. "I will give to my mom a pizza" makes sense. When using the dative, the ending of masculine words changes to end with em, like "Der" or "Das" would be "Dem", "mein" or "meinen" would be "meinem" Feminine words do the same thing except with "er" "Die" turns to "Der", "Meine" turns to "Meiner".

I haven't learned the dative case yet, so I can't help you there. This is probably a bit much information to take in at once though.....

Better of Two Evils


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 11:58 pm


Yes, inflections are quite irksome... If Old English hadn't lost all its inflected forms while evolving into Middle English, I'm sure learning the German ones would be a lot easier...
PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:37 pm


Hawk_McKrakken
Yes, inflections are quite irksome... If Old English hadn't lost all its inflected forms while evolving into Middle English, I'm sure learning the German ones would be a lot easier...
By inflections do you mean genders? Or is it something different? Sorry, I'm not really up to date on my gramatic terms.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 1:10 am


Just means different forms of the same definite articles... like 'ein' can take on 'einer,' 'eine,' 'einem,' 'einen,' 'eines' and 'dies' can take on 'dieser,' 'diese,' 'diesem,' 'diesen,' 'dieses'... English just has a universal 'the' and 'a(n).'

I really don't understand the purpose of inflections, as English and Spanish and many other languages are just fine without them. confused
PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:04 am


J0EL
Hawk_McKrakken
By the way... can anyone tell me when I'm supposed to use the damn Nominative, Genitive, Accusative and Dative cases? I know what the forms are, but I don't know when to use each one or why.
I haven't learned the dative case yet, so I can't help you there. This is probably a bit much information to take in at once though.....
Apparently 'dative' has something to do with prepositions... I don't really get it myself, but here's the link. http://german.about.com/library/blcase_dat2.htm

DavidGemmell


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:35 pm


DavidGemmell
J0EL
Hawk_McKrakken
By the way... can anyone tell me when I'm supposed to use the damn Nominative, Genitive, Accusative and Dative cases? I know what the forms are, but I don't know when to use each one or why.
I haven't learned the dative case yet, so I can't help you there. This is probably a bit much information to take in at once though.....
Apparently 'dative' has something to do with prepositions... I don't really get it myself, but here's the link. http://german.about.com/library/blcase_dat2.htm
I thought it was just showing posession and used "es" endings like "des". I don't know the exact details well enough to use it or teach it though...
PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:04 pm



Guten Tag!
Ich bin ein Fransozich und ich mag Deutsch, weil es ein Super Sprache ist. Ich habe in Munchen gekommen, es ist ein Super Stadt.


Ok I really suck....I'm not really good at German grammar.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 2:33 pm


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Guten Tag!
Ich bin ein Fransozich und ich mag Deutsch, weil es ein Super Sprache ist. Ich habe in Munchen gekommen, es ist ein Super Stadt.


Ok I really suck....I'm not really good at German grammar.
Aber man versteht did, auch wenn's nicht perfekt ist! 3nodding

I never got the hang of capitalising the vowels.
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