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 Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:38 pm
P E T T O S Moon Maiden, just a quick question. You do not believe that worshiping other Gods is a sin, correct? Could you explain in alittle more detail on your answer. I would appreciate it. The Bible states thou shalt not worship any Gods before me. Meaning you are to worship God first and foremost, all other Gods are second. People who read that verse only see the no other part instead of looking at the whole verse. knowledgeable person on Wicca fluffy source For example. Wicca is a religion that has different practices, some stemming from nomadic religions. Wicca is an ancient religion!!! Wicca is not an ancient religion, it's a new age religion that has practices that stem from nomadic religions. Placing emphasis on one word or one phrase, messes up the exact interpretation of what the source is saying. Therefore making the initial analysis to be incorrect. Also I will link to an info dump that talks about this: TeaDikial's Witchcraft within ChristendomHowever, according to the Jews, those worshiping Jesus as God, are idolatrous. So really what we believe to be sin is subjective compared to the other Abrahamic religions and their holy books. neutral
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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:59 pm
ok again haveing other "gods" at all is idoltry
remember when moses was writing the commandments for God...he went with them down the mountains and saw them worshiping a golden cow...he got mad and broke the stone plates that the commandments were writen on.
so haveing other gods IS bad...there is more evidence to prove you false than correct.
remember i am not being bias...i was raised with this understanding...i am just telling you my part
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:55 am
-Tsukiyo-Moon Maiden Believer of God Your still not understanding me. It says in the Bible that IT is a sin to drink blood. Christianity isnt about being saved once, and follow Him once, and then BOOM, your in heaven. Thats not how it works. Its about following Him. what you are saying is that if someone murders someone else for Jesus then they will be in heaven. But they murdered. I am a Christian. I weap over my sin, I cry about the wrong i did, and i pray hard for my lord, to forgive me. Those who dont cry or feel bad about their sin are not sorry for it, and then the lord cant forgive them. I dont like how you say I shun you, becuase im trying to do the oppisite. I hate how you say my faith in Him is weak because I follow hard after Him, i try to be as godly as i can, though i know i am full of sin, but i am extremly sorry for it. You say that the people give the blood to vampires, "their masters". They are not to have any other masters beside Jesus Christ! ONly in Jesus Christ we are alive. These vampires are not alive. IF they drink blood and do the things you say, gifted to them or not, its a sin! Yes in the CATHOLIC church they drink wine, or "The blood of Christ" and eat the crackers or His body. But Catholics also worship Mary and other gods. That is wrong. It is true. God doenst hate anyone. HE loves everyone, but the sin in our lifes is what He hates. ANd because of our sin in our lifes we know what we must face. The wrath of God. You must understand that I'm not saying this to shun you. I'm saying this cause I love you. I want you to understand that you jsut cant get into heaven for being good to people. What you are implying is that if someone murdered someone for Jesus, they can still make it in hevean because he donated to charity and gave and wasnt selfish and all together was a good guy. But he still murdered and for that he might go to hell. I say might, because I cant say who is going to hell and who isnt. But he still did wrong and he doesnt apoligize for it so he cant be forgiven, He doesnt feel bad for what he did to an innocent sould. How can someone forgive you if you dont feel sorry for it? Prove it. Chapter and Verse. neutral You're saying that God hates people. He hates vampires. You're contradicting yourself. Not only that but your true hateful nature is showing. neutral Prove that Catholics worship Mary and other Gods. Prove that worshiping other Gods is a sin. Prove that there are other Gods in Catholicism. Prove that vampires are evil. And don't use "oh cause the Bible says so" or "Read the Bible yourself" Because that's shifting Burden of Proof and only proving that you're wholly ignorant and intellectually dishonest. neutral My uncle is Catholic. I even asked. I went to his funeral, and they prayed to like 20 different people. why would you want other gods? Jesus is all your suppose to need. You know why this is angering you? Becuase deep in your sould you know its true. and no, i dont believe I have a hateful nature. Im doing all of this out of love. tell me how that is hateful? Im crying right now becuase I can feel satan in your words, dont find that offensive, i cant hope that enough, but i fell evil in your words and its scarring my soul. You know how much it hurt for people telling you that your not a Christian? ( i read your about me) well now your being a jerk, and telling this to me. Your suppose to dedicate your life to Jesus, suppose to live for Him, but how are you suppose to live for Jesus if you worship other gods?
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:08 am
Do you know why I tremble in His word? Because He is so great, far more great then anything on this world, far more great then anything I can imagine. I tremble becuase I love Him so much, because I worship Him with so much love and dedication, and I cant believe that someone with so much glory would love me. I know he love everyone. HE LOVES EVERYONE! I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT HIM HATING ANYONE. I said the oppisite. I said He loves everyone. But HE hate the SIN in your life. Thats why Jesus hung on that tree. He hung on that tree so that we can beg for forgivness for our sins. But He cant forgive us if truely we arent sorry. If we dont cry over the wrong we did.
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:45 am
Maybe you should pray every night about you're friends and ask Jesus to come into your heart and ask him for forgiveness and wash all the sin away. And maybe when you pray about your friends it'll be easier to talk to them about this and maybe they'll try to understand. We all know listening to devil music is wrong, but maybe you should try getting into a different interest in music. Like maybe Christian, maybe even screemo if ya like smile Vampires yes are sometimes demon possessed things. See Twilight isn't necessarily that bad. They TRY not to drink peoples blood. And I know I can't resist Edward. I mean c'mon who can't!!!! lol Well I'll start praying for you! May God bless you and have a wonderful day! 3nodding
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:13 pm
TuffSteak Maybe you should pray every night about you're friends and ask Jesus to come into your heart and ask him for forgiveness and wash all the sin away. And maybe when you pray about your friends it'll be easier to talk to them about this and maybe they'll try to understand. We all know listening to devil music is wrong, but maybe you should try getting into a different interest in music. Like maybe Christian, maybe even screemo if ya like smile Vampires yes are sometimes demon possessed things. See Twilight isn't necessarily that bad. They TRY not to drink peoples blood. And I know I can't resist Edward. I mean c'mon who can't!!!! lol Well I'll start praying for you! May God bless you and have a wonderful day! 3nodding I must diasagree with you about twilight. Remember how he said everything about him invites you in, but inside he is a monster. Thats what satan does. He makes himself look beautiful so you will go with him, but he is truely hideous. I dropped the devil music, such as metallica, but its still really hard. Im getting there. (: and I really thank you for this. (:
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:55 pm
Believer of God -Tsukiyo-Moon Maiden Believer of God Your still not understanding me. It says in the Bible that IT is a sin to drink blood. Christianity isnt about being saved once, and follow Him once, and then BOOM, your in heaven. Thats not how it works. Its about following Him. what you are saying is that if someone murders someone else for Jesus then they will be in heaven. But they murdered. I am a Christian. I weap over my sin, I cry about the wrong i did, and i pray hard for my lord, to forgive me. Those who dont cry or feel bad about their sin are not sorry for it, and then the lord cant forgive them. I dont like how you say I shun you, becuase im trying to do the oppisite. I hate how you say my faith in Him is weak because I follow hard after Him, i try to be as godly as i can, though i know i am full of sin, but i am extremly sorry for it. You say that the people give the blood to vampires, "their masters". They are not to have any other masters beside Jesus Christ! ONly in Jesus Christ we are alive. These vampires are not alive. IF they drink blood and do the things you say, gifted to them or not, its a sin! Yes in the CATHOLIC church they drink wine, or "The blood of Christ" and eat the crackers or His body. But Catholics also worship Mary and other gods. That is wrong. It is true. God doenst hate anyone. HE loves everyone, but the sin in our lifes is what He hates. ANd because of our sin in our lifes we know what we must face. The wrath of God. You must understand that I'm not saying this to shun you. I'm saying this cause I love you. I want you to understand that you jsut cant get into heaven for being good to people. What you are implying is that if someone murdered someone for Jesus, they can still make it in hevean because he donated to charity and gave and wasnt selfish and all together was a good guy. But he still murdered and for that he might go to hell. I say might, because I cant say who is going to hell and who isnt. But he still did wrong and he doesnt apoligize for it so he cant be forgiven, He doesnt feel bad for what he did to an innocent sould. How can someone forgive you if you dont feel sorry for it? Prove it. Chapter and Verse. neutral You're saying that God hates people. He hates vampires. You're contradicting yourself. Not only that but your true hateful nature is showing. neutral Prove that Catholics worship Mary and other Gods. Prove that worshiping other Gods is a sin. Prove that there are other Gods in Catholicism. Prove that vampires are evil. And don't use "oh cause the Bible says so" or "Read the Bible yourself" Because that's shifting Burden of Proof and only proving that you're wholly ignorant and intellectually dishonest. neutral My uncle is Catholic. I even asked. I went to his funeral, and they prayed to like 20 different people. why would you want other gods? Jesus is all your suppose to need. You know why this is angering you? Becuase deep in your sould you know its true. and no, i dont believe I have a hateful nature. Im doing all of this out of love. tell me how that is hateful? Im crying right now becuase I can feel satan in your words, dont find that offensive, i cant hope that enough, but i fell evil in your words and its scarring my soul. You know how much it hurt for people telling you that your not a Christian? ( i read your about me) well now your being a jerk, and telling this to me. Your suppose to dedicate your life to Jesus, suppose to live for Him, but how are you suppose to live for Jesus if you worship other gods? BUMP! THis is the truth!
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 8:48 pm
Yuri_Ochi Believer of God -Tsukiyo-Moon Maiden Believer of God Your still not understanding me. It says in the Bible that IT is a sin to drink blood. Christianity isnt about being saved once, and follow Him once, and then BOOM, your in heaven. Thats not how it works. Its about following Him. what you are saying is that if someone murders someone else for Jesus then they will be in heaven. But they murdered. I am a Christian. I weap over my sin, I cry about the wrong i did, and i pray hard for my lord, to forgive me. Those who dont cry or feel bad about their sin are not sorry for it, and then the lord cant forgive them. I dont like how you say I shun you, becuase im trying to do the oppisite. I hate how you say my faith in Him is weak because I follow hard after Him, i try to be as godly as i can, though i know i am full of sin, but i am extremly sorry for it. You say that the people give the blood to vampires, "their masters". They are not to have any other masters beside Jesus Christ! ONly in Jesus Christ we are alive. These vampires are not alive. IF they drink blood and do the things you say, gifted to them or not, its a sin! Yes in the CATHOLIC church they drink wine, or "The blood of Christ" and eat the crackers or His body. But Catholics also worship Mary and other gods. That is wrong. It is true. God doenst hate anyone. HE loves everyone, but the sin in our lifes is what He hates. ANd because of our sin in our lifes we know what we must face. The wrath of God. You must understand that I'm not saying this to shun you. I'm saying this cause I love you. I want you to understand that you jsut cant get into heaven for being good to people. What you are implying is that if someone murdered someone for Jesus, they can still make it in hevean because he donated to charity and gave and wasnt selfish and all together was a good guy. But he still murdered and for that he might go to hell. I say might, because I cant say who is going to hell and who isnt. But he still did wrong and he doesnt apoligize for it so he cant be forgiven, He doesnt feel bad for what he did to an innocent sould. How can someone forgive you if you dont feel sorry for it? Prove it. Chapter and Verse. neutral You're saying that God hates people. He hates vampires. You're contradicting yourself. Not only that but your true hateful nature is showing. neutral Prove that Catholics worship Mary and other Gods. Prove that worshiping other Gods is a sin. Prove that there are other Gods in Catholicism. Prove that vampires are evil. And don't use "oh cause the Bible says so" or "Read the Bible yourself" Because that's shifting Burden of Proof and only proving that you're wholly ignorant and intellectually dishonest. neutral My uncle is Catholic. I even asked. I went to his funeral, and they prayed to like 20 different people. why would you want other gods? Jesus is all your suppose to need. You know why this is angering you? Becuase deep in your sould you know its true. and no, i dont believe I have a hateful nature. Im doing all of this out of love. tell me how that is hateful? Im crying right now becuase I can feel satan in your words, dont find that offensive, i cant hope that enough, but i fell evil in your words and its scarring my soul. You know how much it hurt for people telling you that your not a Christian? ( i read your about me) well now your being a jerk, and telling this to me. Your suppose to dedicate your life to Jesus, suppose to live for Him, but how are you suppose to live for Jesus if you worship other gods? BUMP! THis is the truth! whats true, my words or hers.
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:33 am
-Tsukiyo-Moon Maiden The Bible states thou shalt not worship any Gods before me. Meaning you are to worship God first and foremost, all other Gods are second. People who read that verse only see the no other part instead of looking at the whole verse. knowledgeable person on Wicca fluffy source For example. Wicca is a religion that has different practices, some stemming from nomadic religions. Wicca is an ancient religion!!! Wicca is not an ancient religion, it's a new age religion that has practices that stem from nomadic religions. Placing emphasis on one word or one phrase, messes up the exact interpretation of what the source is saying. Therefore making the initial analysis to be incorrect. Also I will link to an info dump that talks about this: TeaDikial's Witchcraft within ChristendomHowever, according to the Jews, those worshiping Jesus as God, are idolatrous. So really what we believe to be sin is subjective compared to the other Abrahamic religions and their holy books. neutral God says that He is God and God alone. Mark 12:32 (King James Version)
32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:1 Corinthians 8:6 (King James Version) 6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Ephesians 4:6 (King James Version)
6One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.Even demons believe there is only one God. They do better than some people, ain't that a shame. sad James 2:19
Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.You can't serve two masters because you will love one and hate the other. You can't have it both ways. This is stated in... Matthew 6:24
No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.and... Luke 16:13
No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Luke 6:46 (King James Version)
46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?You have to do what God says and the things of these other practices and religions do not line up with the Word of God. People feeding on sexual energy?! Does that even sound like God would condone that? (rhetorical question). You have to follow Him and only him. So God makes it very clear that everything else is wrong so no, you can't be pagan and all of that because Jesus is the only way to God. It doesn't matter what Jews believe about Jesus, they are wrong and God says this. I'm not being mean, I'm not bashing but I am stating what the word of God says. Jesus is God come in human form so we can have a chance to be free from the penalty of sin. As a Christian, you stand on that no matter what other people say. If you waver on that core principle you cannot call yourself Christian and you can't be saved. The entire bible confirms that these things are the case(if anyone wants me to specifically post verses I'll do that). Again, this is NOT a personal attack this is something stated in the word of the Almighty God and I pray that IF(cause I don't know you) you do not put ALL ALL ALL of your faith in God, He moves in your life and you come to see His truth. God wants to have a personal intimate relationship with us, He wants us to lean on His strength. I'm praying right now that you let Him in your life. I'm not condeming you. I've tried in the past to find loopholes so I wouldn't have to trust God and that got old real fast. That doesn't work and you don't want to realize that when it's too late. OP, the same goes for you. You NEED...we all need an intimate relationship with God. I agree with everything you have stated in this thread and I pray you grow even closer to Him. It's good that the Holy Spirit is convicting you of these things. It means God loves you enough to help you get on the path He wants you to be on. If the people you are with are a hinderance in your walk with God you have to stay away from them. 2 Corinthians 6:14 (King James Version) 14Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? Maybe on day you will be able to talk to these people and help them get on the right path but God will have to work with you and them before that happens. God will reward your sacrifice and he'll take you to higher heights because of it. I had to quit an organization at my university because of that and I can devote more time to the things God wants me to do. You may not believe what they do, you may not curse God yourself but you need to be around likeminded people so everyday isn't a battle. You may not do drugs but you likely won't grow around those people at the very least. Pray that God gives you friends. Likeminded ones that have their minds on Him. I had no friends my 1st two years in college. I prayed about it constantly and it took a while (about a year and a half) but God delievered in the best way possible. He was working on me and them during that time. He may not come when you want Him but He's always on time. 3nodding
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:55 am
I have alot to say about your posts but there are a few things that really stood out to me and I'll probably split this into multiple posts so bear with me. -Tsukiyo-Moon Maiden Also Satan is God's lapdog. Refer to Job. God's okay with my cussing. He knows that I only do it when I get angry/annoyed/frustrated. He understands that I'm merely human. And vampires do exist today, they aren't demons. They are human beings like you and me. Some of them are Christian. They are what are known as Therians or Otherkin.quote] Like Believer of God said, we canNOT be trying to find loopholes around God's law. If you haven't prayed about something and heard God tell you it's okay you need to question your actions. I've had to do that about some things myself. You can't keep doing the same thing over and over and assume that God is going to be okay. You can't do the same thing and say you love God. I posted a verse up there that says how can people say they love God and don't do what he says. God knows we are human and make mistakes but if you aren't willing to change you're closing yourself off to his help and he's not going to force you to change. (And in order to be all He wants you to be, there will be change.) God wants our lives and if you won't surrender yourself to him, ALL of yourself.every situation, you're treading on dangerous ground. I'm getting to the point but like I said, he knows we're human but by saying "oh he'll forgive me he understands" you are cheaping his grace. Do you see what I mean? God's grace and mercy is a precious gift and we shouldn't just assume that he's going to give it. And when you repent and ask him to forgive you and you keep doing it, you aren't really sorry for it. EDITED to add this: God is not okay with your cussing. Colossians 3:8-9 But now you must rid yourselves of all such things as these:
anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips.
Do not lie to each other, since you have taken off your old self with its practices and this... Ephesians 4 29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers
31 Let all bitterness, and wrath and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you with all maliceHe doesn't excuse you because you're angry, he doesn't want you to get angry either. If you get so mad that you are being controlled by that, you have a problem. He had to show me that and when He did I was disgusted with myself.
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:17 am
Actually he would want us to drink his blood. Ie Communion. His blood is wine, his body is crackers. neutral
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That is a catholic doctrine (the literal transformation of the wine into blood and the wafers into Jesus). The communion is based on Matthew 26: 26-28 (a few verses in Mark too) and more specifics of the communion are in 1 Corinthians 11:20-34. There is never a literal transformation of those things into parts on Jesus' body in those verse. We are supposed to take communion in remembrance of what he did.
Let's say the priest really does make those things into Jesus. We would be sacrificing Jesus all over again. That was done once, not at every mass, every 4th sunday or whenever we take communion.
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:11 pm
xLady Tsukiyox Believer of God They arent human vampires. They are humans believing that they are vampires, and they kill others and drink thier blood. Thou shalt not kill, but thats what they do when they drink other's blood. ITs a sin, and its against the 10 commandments. you should watch the video on my profile... Wrong. http://www.sanguinarius.org/Vampires are very human, however their souls are not. Also not all vampires drink blood. Some feed off of prana which is energy or tantric which is sexual energy. In other words, research. Also sanguines don't kill their black swans or rather their donors. They take a little bit of blood. That's it. Becoming a donor is solely voluntary. Another thing is wrong with what your saying. Your trusting a wesite that HUMANS created on HUMAN perspectives. Humans are humans and not even close to being holy like God, and i only believe what i read int he bible, I dont believe anything on websites like the one that you have shown me. and you shouldnt either
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:03 am
here's wht I think u shoul do. Pray. Tell God tht u think u feel like ur slipping away. He wants to hear from you. He wants you to tell Him how you are feeling.
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:04 am
and, Vampires are evil. But they arent real. its ok to rad about thm, as long as you remember tht they aren't real.
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:54 pm
xXTwilight_AddictXx and, Vampires are evil. But they arent real. its ok to rad about thm, as long as you remember tht they aren't real. 1.) they are real. They are demons. Maybe not like the cullens or dracula but vampires are creatures that consume the human body. kinda like canabiles i guess. 2.) its not okay to rad about them because your suppose to copy Jesus and you have to think about what He would do. Would he rad about them???
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