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 Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:36 pm
Madame_Fluffy Hula the Great Lol. xD
How was Edward towards the end of the series? I have no idea. The only things I hear about him in the final chapter is how he tore into the protective membrane around Renesmee with his teeth and turned Bella into a vampire (like she always wanted - albeit, while she was unconscious, robbing her of any official say in the matter). Yeah yeah, I can hear it now. 'But Bella always wanted to be a vampire, so it's okay! Besides, she was dying and it shows how much he loves her by turning her to save her!'. Good intentions or not, it's still robbing her of that final decision. Right now - it's all fine and good; seeing as she's now epic Mary Sue with her vampified self and has uber sexy time with her hubby (XP); but what happens if it ever sunk into her that she could never have any more children (Renesmee is it), that her parents will die long before she will, etc, etc. In the end, Edward robbed Bella of a normal life. But then, I suppose it doesn't matter, seeing as Bella was so bloody infatuated with her meyerpire boyfriend/hubby that nothing else matters. Don't forget that she's a Meyerpire too!
And actually he didn't take that final decision from her, she had already decided that from since Twilight and was counting on the transformation to save her after giving birth (that was a horrible scene to read by the way gonk ).
It's never mentioned either on how she feels about not having kids after becoming a vampire nor how she feels about her parents dying before her. I actually think she doesn't care really. Rarely cared about her parents at all throughout the books (make that all the humans in the series 3nodding ).
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:45 pm
Bartimaeus13 Madame_Fluffy Hula the Great Lol. xD
How was Edward towards the end of the series? I have no idea. The only things I hear about him in the final chapter is how he tore into the protective membrane around Renesmee with his teeth and turned Bella into a vampire (like she always wanted - albeit, while she was unconscious, robbing her of any official say in the matter). Yeah yeah, I can hear it now. 'But Bella always wanted to be a vampire, so it's okay! Besides, she was dying and it shows how much he loves her by turning her to save her!'. Good intentions or not, it's still robbing her of that final decision. Right now - it's all fine and good; seeing as she's now epic Mary Sue with her vampified self and has uber sexy time with her hubby (XP); but what happens if it ever sunk into her that she could never have any more children (Renesmee is it), that her parents will die long before she will, etc, etc. In the end, Edward robbed Bella of a normal life. But then, I suppose it doesn't matter, seeing as Bella was so bloody infatuated with her meyerpire boyfriend/hubby that nothing else matters. Don't forget that she's a Meyerpire too!
And actually he didn't take that final decision from her, she had already decided that from since Twilight and was counting on the transformation to save her after giving birth (that was a horrible scene to read by the way gonk ).
It's never mentioned either on how she feels about not having kids after becoming a vampire nor how she feels about her parents dying before her. I actually think she doesn't care really. Rarely cared about her parents at all throughout the books (make that all the humans in the series 3nodding ). Well, that's hat I'm saying. We'll never see if she has any regrets (but I don't doubt she ever will - as you mentioned, Bella is especially self absorbed). So long as she has Eddy in her extended life to boink her on a daily basis, it's all good. ...here's hoping someone does him in.
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:21 pm
About Edward and Bella's choice for Bella to be a 'vampire'...
Edward really didn't want Bella to be a 'vampire' right? He'd rather have her live to be some old lady. But he did it anyways, so, it was his choice, not hers?
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:46 am
Aerostatic About Edward and Bella's choice for Bella to be a 'vampire'... Edward really didn't want Bella to be a 'vampire' right? He'd rather have her live to be some old lady. But he did it anyways, so, it was his choice, not hers? But apparently, this reasoning falls completely out of the window because Bella has been whining for Edward her to turn her since day one. But yeah, in the end, the decision was always entirely his to make. :/
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:50 am
Madame_Fluffy Aerostatic About Edward and Bella's choice for Bella to be a 'vampire'... Edward really didn't want Bella to be a 'vampire' right? He'd rather have her live to be some old lady. But he did it anyways, so, it was his choice, not hers? But apparently, this reasoning falls completely out of the window because Bella has been whining for Edward her to turn her since day one. But yeah, in the end, the decision was always entirely his to make. :/ It was a matter of life or death and of course he didn't want her to die so he used his back up plan.
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:48 am
Bartimaeus13 Madame_Fluffy Aerostatic About Edward and Bella's choice for Bella to be a 'vampire'... Edward really didn't want Bella to be a 'vampire' right? He'd rather have her live to be some old lady. But he did it anyways, so, it was his choice, not hers? But apparently, this reasoning falls completely out of the window because Bella has been whining for Edward her to turn her since day one. But yeah, in the end, the decision was always entirely his to make. :/ It was a matter of life or death and of course he didn't want her to die so he used his back up plan. In the end, Edward was a hypocrit. I mean, he spends how much time telling Bella why he refuses to turn her into one of their own, only to turn her regardless in a last ditch effort to save her life. I mean, if he intended to turn her eventually, why not before she was placed in a life or death situation where the decision was a forced one and left her out of it? Oh, that's right - because female vampires cannot conceive children and Renesmee would never have been. XP
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:32 pm
>>Edward and Bella's deal was marraige, try to have sex, and then Bella vampire.
But she got pregnant so it didn't happen right away.
They all discussed it and decided that Bella was to be turned as soon as possible anyway.
If it wasn't for Renesmee, Bella would have been a vampire....uh....
Oh wait.
No, she said she might've wanted to try school and that is was no big deal because they could ahve sex...
DAMN IT!
I lose!
But they still discussed it when she was preggers 3nodding 
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:31 pm
Madame_Fluffy Bartimaeus13 Madame_Fluffy Aerostatic About Edward and Bella's choice for Bella to be a 'vampire'... Edward really didn't want Bella to be a 'vampire' right? He'd rather have her live to be some old lady. But he did it anyways, so, it was his choice, not hers? But apparently, this reasoning falls completely out of the window because Bella has been whining for Edward her to turn her since day one. But yeah, in the end, the decision was always entirely his to make. :/ It was a matter of life or death and of course he didn't want her to die so he used his back up plan. In the end, Edward was a hypocrit. I mean, he spends how much time telling Bella why he refuses to turn her into one of their own, only to turn her regardless in a last ditch effort to save her life. I mean, if he intended to turn her eventually, why not before she was placed in a life or death situation where the decision was a forced one and left her out of it? Oh, that's right - because female vampires cannot conceive children and Renesmee would never have been. XP Well wouldn't this be Edward finally listening to Bella? Everything was usually done his way and Bella had it her way in the end.
Like Countess said they had all that planned out and the life or death situation happened because they had no idea that it was possible to get a human female pregnant.
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:02 am
Bartimaeus13 Madame_Fluffy Bartimaeus13 Madame_Fluffy Aerostatic About Edward and Bella's choice for Bella to be a 'vampire'... Edward really didn't want Bella to be a 'vampire' right? He'd rather have her live to be some old lady. But he did it anyways, so, it was his choice, not hers? But apparently, this reasoning falls completely out of the window because Bella has been whining for Edward her to turn her since day one. But yeah, in the end, the decision was always entirely his to make. :/ It was a matter of life or death and of course he didn't want her to die so he used his back up plan. In the end, Edward was a hypocrit. I mean, he spends how much time telling Bella why he refuses to turn her into one of their own, only to turn her regardless in a last ditch effort to save her life. I mean, if he intended to turn her eventually, why not before she was placed in a life or death situation where the decision was a forced one and left her out of it? Oh, that's right - because female vampires cannot conceive children and Renesmee would never have been. XP Well wouldn't this be Edward finally listening to Bella? Everything was usually done his way and Bella had it her way in the end.
Like Countess said they had all that planned out and the life or death situation happened because they had no idea that it was possible to get a human female pregnant. But, again, why wait so long before doing it? I mean, if the intention was always there - why wait until her life was in peril? The answer - female vampires cannot have babies and thus, Bella needed to stay human until Renesmee was conceived/born. Otherwise, Meyer's could not give Bella her perfect ending. XP (yes, I know the characters did not know it was possible for a vampire male to get a human female pregnant - I'm referring to Meyer's ******** up logic when it comes to vampire reproduction, in this case).
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:02 pm
>>Edward didn't want Bella to be a vampire.
Bella was very persistant.
Carlisle was actually going to turn her after graduation, but Bella really wanted Edward to do it so they made the "you marry me, I'll turn you" deal.
And then Bella was freaking out about being a new born and not wanting Edward so the sex deal was added.
But then once they figured out they could have sex, Bella was like, "Hm, a few years isn't so bad. Now that I can have sex with you, maybe I will go to college and wait to become a vampire."
But then she got knocked up.
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:10 pm
Countess Annabelle Moore >>Edward didn't want Bella to be a vampire.
Bella was very persistant.
Carlisle was actually going to turn her after graduation, but Bella really wanted Edward to do it so they made the "you marry me, I'll turn you" deal.
And then Bella was freaking out about being a new born and not wanting Edward so the sex deal was added.
But then once they figured out they could have sex, Bella was like, "Hm, a few years isn't so bad. Now that I can have sex with you, maybe I will go to college and wait to become a vampire."
But then she got knocked up. ::blinks:: Huh? In reference to her freaking out over being a newborn and not wanting Edward, I mean. Also - what caused Bella to pass out during their first time together?
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:49 pm
>>In Eclipse, after the big battle, there was one bloodthirsty newborn left alive.
(She surrendered and Carlisle wanted to offer her a chance at their life but Jane was all, "No.")
So after that, Bella was worried after she became a vampire and was all newborn like, all she would want was blood for at least a year.
Meaning, she wouldn't want Edward physically because she'd be so concerned with the blood.
So she told him she'd marry him but they had to at least try to have sex before she became a bloodthirsty newborn.
Passed out after the first time they had sex? I'm pretty sure she just fell asleep...
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:56 pm
Countess Annabelle Moore >>In Eclipse, after the big battle, there was one bloodthirsty newborn left alive.
(She surrendered and Carlisle wanted to offer her a chance at their life but Jane was all, "No.")
So after that, Bella was worried after she became a vampire and was all newborn like, all she would want was blood for at least a year.
Meaning, she wouldn't want Edward physically because she'd be so concerned with the blood.
So she told him she'd marry him but they had to at least try to have sex before she became a bloodthirsty newborn.
Passed out after the first time they had sex? I'm pretty sure she just fell asleep... No, no - I mean during. (for some reason, I got the impression she woke up to find the headboard and pillows destroyed, so was wondering how she missed all that during the act of love making). So...she agreed to become a vampire if Eddy screwed her beforehand? This agreement based on her paranoia concerning a single newborn vampire? If it were more commonplace for newborns to become so enthralled with blood, I can understand...but this is a single incident she's fussing over and essentially resorts to bargaining before agreeing to be with the guy she supposedly loves with all her heart (like a pre-marital agreement of sorts). Bella is a complete spaz. XP
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:05 pm
>>Ah, that.
I think she was just so focused on the... uh... pleasure that she didn't notice.
She was having a good time and other than touch, her senses were probably dulled.
Well, it is common for newborns to only want blood.
After actually seeing one, though, she got paranoid.
Of course, there was no reason since she never acted like a newborn.
Your reason = special snowflake
My reason = she grew up fast while she was human. Why shouldn't she while she's a vampire?
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:48 pm
Countess Annabelle Moore Ah, that. I think she was just so focused on the... uh... pleasure that she didn't notice. She was having a good time and other than touch, her senses were probably dulled. The torn pillows - I can understand (if anything, it could have added to the beauty of the moment). But an exploding headboard going unnoticed? Nowhere near likely, seeing as splintered wood would cause tiny fragments to scatter all over the place (how did she avoid getting nailed by splinters, anyway?) Countess Annabelle Moore My reason = she grew up fast while she was human. Why shouldn't she while she's a vampire? Uh...Bella did not come out of the womb wise to the world and mature for her age. It took her a good 18 years in order to reach this supposed heightened maturity she has. So, how she naturally fell into a vampire lifestyle immediately after her being turned is yet another piece of evidence showing that Meyer's is an incredibly lazy writer. XP Would not be surprised if she used the whole 'she drank blood during her pregnancy and found it nummies' to explain Bella's falling into the vampire lifestyle with no muss/fuss.
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