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Because this is in any way like judging gymnastics. rolleyes

The rubric is like what I used to grade craft projects, except the kids knew what they were being graded on for said craft projects.

50/50 odds are fairer to me then Vintrict is. pirate

No, a thousand times no. Holy s**t no. You're not graded on entertainment value and creativity in your standard English class. Why? Because there's no way to measure those things.

If you look at rubrics used in school that include a creativity category you'll notice that the points are given for things like coloring the pictures you draw. But that's another thing, the rubric tells you exactly how you can get the points you want. That's what a rubric is supposed to do. There is no, "Well, I've seen this done before so you get 0 points." It's, "You did A, B, C, and D, and that gets you X points."

So you're disappointed that the judges don't have an overriding system dispensing the structure to them? That's kind of like complaining to the people who actually make the educational system, since these guys own the tournament and are making and enforcing the grading system. It cuts out the middle man, which would be teachers in this scenario.

Not sure how the US does it, but my English 12 final exam essay portion 100% included the creativity of the writer and their ability to capture and hold the attention of the reader. That's how great writers are found or determined. There are countless pages of the same s**t, literally hundreds of thousands of books, and then the best of them become popular or are greatly remarked upon.


Then again you're a kindergarten teacher or something so you're 90% a babysitter and like 10% an educator.

I will say this much... what is expected or wanted is not conveyed enough by the judges. Honestly I think that should be a thing Judges do from now on.

I know Tres mentioned it once before in regards to his tournament but Judges should come forth and state what it is they like to see in these fights. it'll give new comers a better chance at being interesting.

Edit: Speak of the devil lol

Well the problem is she doesn't understand the point because apparently even though she's an adult, she needs real life explained to her. Probably lives at home with her parents collecting MLP s**t and paying like 300$ a month in rent.


In real life, people are graded on entertainment by biased people all the time. That's the standard. That's real life. Since that's the only effective way of doing things that's what we do here as well.

At the end of the day if you think you're a good writer you write. You don't care if you get a 12/100 mark from a teacher. Don't get me wrong, creativity and greatness and everyone is special s**t aside you will still fail that class if you get those marks. Doesn't matter, great people fail all the time. Great people got shitty scores in school a lot of times.

You get a shitty score here in the GTB, you don't stop writing. Not unless you aren't really a writer. I got a -15 from Vintrict and I didn't curl up in a ball and give up. I went "wow Vintrict is a biased asshat and I lost the GTB, well, time to default to causing a ruckus for the next year" and that was that. This is a biased tournament, with biased judges and results, and people will succeed or fail - to be determined whether their performance is good or bad within the system they've signed up to be part of.

There's no reason to sit around complaining about the grading system of an entirely volunteer project that you or anyone else entered of their own free will. There's nothing constructive happening when you inject free spirit nonsense into a rational conversation. All that does is stir up negative sentiment for the disenfranchised - people who don't understand or have low self esteem and can't appreciate that the GTB's opinion doesn't mean s**t when it comes to roleplaying. It's just something you do for fun, and you take the good and the bad, and that's life.

Having to explain this has eaten up like 10 minutes of mine though. If not for the fact that this topic is genuinely argued every year I'd think I just got trolled.

While I think we are on the same page for the most part KB, personal shots at people aren't necessary. They devalue your point.

Though I'm sure Molestia is a big girl and she doesn't really care.

I agree that people ought to focus less on the grades, they don't really mean that much. I think because ultimately its difficult for the rubric to really judge the quality of a player.

I think one of the best judges for the quality of a player is how many people desire to roleplay with them.

Because if nobody wants to roleplay with you, then you must be ******** terrible.

If everyone really enjoys playing with you and more people would like to play with you if possible, then you must be pretty damn good.