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Camwen

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 8:20 am


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PS. I saw that we have a guild invitation request. I sent her a nice pm explaining how the guild is currently inactive.


I have not got anywhere with wrangling the higher ups into letting me be captain. I will ask again.

Good luck! It certainly would be nice if you were able to have administrative control. Have you given any more thought to just opening a new guild?

Not really. Plus, there is just something special about the AGA, it feels like it has to be maintained somehow.

Yeah I get it smile
PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:18 pm


I think what is getting to me the most is the feeling of helpless loneliness. So many things are going in directions that... well... it's moving towards a world I don't think I can be in much less thrive in.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:27 pm


Exxos
I think what is getting to me the most is the feeling of helpless loneliness. So many things are going in directions that... well... it's moving towards a world I don't think I can be in much less thrive in.


Yeah.. I'm also having a lot of trouble staying hopeful. I worry so much for my kids... I have a 16 year old and a 21 year old. What kind of future will there be for them?

Also I have this constant feeling that I may not live through this pandemic. We stay indoors etc to slow things down but most of us may still eventually get infected. I hope for an effective vaccine. But what about the next virus?

Sorry.. I'm usually much more optimistic about things in general. I hope the both of us and the people we love get through this to something better.
PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2020 2:38 am


Camwen
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I think what is getting to me the most is the feeling of helpless loneliness. So many things are going in directions that... well... it's moving towards a world I don't think I can be in much less thrive in.


Yeah.. I'm also having a lot of trouble staying hopeful. I worry so much for my kids... I have a 16 year old and a 21 year old. What kind of future will there be for them?

Also I have this constant feeling that I may not live through this pandemic. We stay indoors etc to slow things down but most of us may still eventually get infected. I hope for an effective vaccine. But what about the next virus?

Sorry.. I'm usually much more optimistic about things in general. I hope the both of us and the people we love get through this to something better.


I am more worried about the deaths from the response to it. They have reached already over 500% of the dubious covid death numbers. Even the UN is starting to realize the response is going to cause more famine and general disease outbreaks over the coming years due to supply chain breakdowns alone. Some of the numbers I am seeing place the estimated malaria death spike upwards of an additional million, starvation up to 10 million... And who knows how much civil unrest this might create on top of it.

So it's like... Everything is being made worse, lives are being destroyed, fascism is being celebrated, and it's going to kill a lot more people. There isn't a benefit. It's not like we are going through this for a good reason. Saving one life here visibly is not worth more than 200 lives across the world dying from a six degrees of separation obfuscation.

And then i looks around and I just... Don't know what to do. There are so many bad decisions being made, so many choices to make things worse, to make this a less livable world, to crush human potential.

I have known for almost 20 years now that the world was not going to go in a direction I could thrive in, but in the last few months? It's like almost everyone I meet wants a world I can't live in. Where do you go when there are millions, perhaps billions, of people that want a world that is anathema to your very being? I already spent days in a hospital on suicide watch this year and I get put through a system with law enforcement and harassment and made to feel worse — I am not insane, I just want a chance to be happy.


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Camwen

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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2020 12:02 pm


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Camwen
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I think what is getting to me the most is the feeling of helpless loneliness. So many things are going in directions that... well... it's moving towards a world I don't think I can be in much less thrive in.


Yeah.. I'm also having a lot of trouble staying hopeful. I worry so much for my kids... I have a 16 year old and a 21 year old. What kind of future will there be for them?

Also I have this constant feeling that I may not live through this pandemic. We stay indoors etc to slow things down but most of us may still eventually get infected. I hope for an effective vaccine. But what about the next virus?

Sorry.. I'm usually much more optimistic about things in general. I hope the both of us and the people we love get through this to something better.


I am more worried about the deaths from the response to it. They have reached already over 500% of the dubious covid death numbers. Even the UN is starting to realize the response is going to cause more famine and general disease outbreaks over the coming years due to supply chain breakdowns alone. Some of the numbers I am seeing place the estimated malaria death spike upwards of an additional million, starvation up to 10 million... And who knows how much civil unrest this might create on top of it.

So it's like... Everything is being made worse, lives are being destroyed, fascism is being celebrated, and it's going to kill a lot more people. There isn't a benefit. It's not like we are going through this for a good reason. Saving one life here visibly is not worth more than 200 lives across the world dying from a six degrees of separation obfuscation.

And then i looks around and I just... Don't know what to do. There are so many bad decisions being made, so many choices to make things worse, to make this a less livable world, to crush human potential.

I have known for almost 20 years now that the world was not going to go in a direction I could thrive in, but in the last few months? It's like almost everyone I meet wants a world I can't live in. Where do you go when there are millions, perhaps billions, of people that want a world that is anathema to your very being? I already spent days in a hospital on suicide watch this year and I get put through a system with law enforcement and harassment and made to feel worse — I am not insane, I just want a chance to be happy.


So many unknowns as to how we go forward as a society. I agree it doesn't look good right now. The GOP and other right wing leadership around the world is grabbing everything it can for themselves and their rich cronies. We have a president that can't plan two seconds for the future but only react to things with revenge and greed. Yeah.. I want to say you are wrong about what you said but ... I just don't how things can recover. I guess I'm still capable of believing it's possible that this is just a bad time in history and it won't all just go to s**t. Will I live to see it? *shrug*
PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2020 6:26 pm


Camwen
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Camwen
Exxos
I think what is getting to me the most is the feeling of helpless loneliness. So many things are going in directions that... well... it's moving towards a world I don't think I can be in much less thrive in.


Yeah.. I'm also having a lot of trouble staying hopeful. I worry so much for my kids... I have a 16 year old and a 21 year old. What kind of future will there be for them?

Also I have this constant feeling that I may not live through this pandemic. We stay indoors etc to slow things down but most of us may still eventually get infected. I hope for an effective vaccine. But what about the next virus?

Sorry.. I'm usually much more optimistic about things in general. I hope the both of us and the people we love get through this to something better.


I am more worried about the deaths from the response to it. They have reached already over 500% of the dubious covid death numbers. Even the UN is starting to realize the response is going to cause more famine and general disease outbreaks over the coming years due to supply chain breakdowns alone. Some of the numbers I am seeing place the estimated malaria death spike upwards of an additional million, starvation up to 10 million... And who knows how much civil unrest this might create on top of it.

So it's like... Everything is being made worse, lives are being destroyed, fascism is being celebrated, and it's going to kill a lot more people. There isn't a benefit. It's not like we are going through this for a good reason. Saving one life here visibly is not worth more than 200 lives across the world dying from a six degrees of separation obfuscation.

And then i looks around and I just... Don't know what to do. There are so many bad decisions being made, so many choices to make things worse, to make this a less livable world, to crush human potential.

I have known for almost 20 years now that the world was not going to go in a direction I could thrive in, but in the last few months? It's like almost everyone I meet wants a world I can't live in. Where do you go when there are millions, perhaps billions, of people that want a world that is anathema to your very being? I already spent days in a hospital on suicide watch this year and I get put through a system with law enforcement and harassment and made to feel worse — I am not insane, I just want a chance to be happy.


So many unknowns as to how we go forward as a society. I agree it doesn't look good right now. The GOP and other right wing leadership around the world is grabbing everything it can for themselves and their rich cronies. We have a president that can't plan two seconds for the future but only react to things with revenge and greed. Yeah.. I want to say you are wrong about what you said but ... I just don't how things can recover. I guess I'm still capable of believing it's possible that this is just a bad time in history and it won't all just go to s**t. Will I live to see it? *shrug*

I am sorry for bringing it up. I know that I should be trying to keep it together and not bring this toxic crud into what should be a safe space for us. Let the world run roughshod out there, but let the AGA be a place where we get four seconds without clenching teeth until the crack.


Exxos

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Camwen

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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2020 9:14 am


Exxos
Camwen
Exxos
Camwen
Exxos
I think what is getting to me the most is the feeling of helpless loneliness. So many things are going in directions that... well... it's moving towards a world I don't think I can be in much less thrive in.


Yeah.. I'm also having a lot of trouble staying hopeful. I worry so much for my kids... I have a 16 year old and a 21 year old. What kind of future will there be for them?

Also I have this constant feeling that I may not live through this pandemic. We stay indoors etc to slow things down but most of us may still eventually get infected. I hope for an effective vaccine. But what about the next virus?

Sorry.. I'm usually much more optimistic about things in general. I hope the both of us and the people we love get through this to something better.


I am more worried about the deaths from the response to it. They have reached already over 500% of the dubious covid death numbers. Even the UN is starting to realize the response is going to cause more famine and general disease outbreaks over the coming years due to supply chain breakdowns alone. Some of the numbers I am seeing place the estimated malaria death spike upwards of an additional million, starvation up to 10 million... And who knows how much civil unrest this might create on top of it.

So it's like... Everything is being made worse, lives are being destroyed, fascism is being celebrated, and it's going to kill a lot more people. There isn't a benefit. It's not like we are going through this for a good reason. Saving one life here visibly is not worth more than 200 lives across the world dying from a six degrees of separation obfuscation.

And then i looks around and I just... Don't know what to do. There are so many bad decisions being made, so many choices to make things worse, to make this a less livable world, to crush human potential.

I have known for almost 20 years now that the world was not going to go in a direction I could thrive in, but in the last few months? It's like almost everyone I meet wants a world I can't live in. Where do you go when there are millions, perhaps billions, of people that want a world that is anathema to your very being? I already spent days in a hospital on suicide watch this year and I get put through a system with law enforcement and harassment and made to feel worse — I am not insane, I just want a chance to be happy.


So many unknowns as to how we go forward as a society. I agree it doesn't look good right now. The GOP and other right wing leadership around the world is grabbing everything it can for themselves and their rich cronies. We have a president that can't plan two seconds for the future but only react to things with revenge and greed. Yeah.. I want to say you are wrong about what you said but ... I just don't how things can recover. I guess I'm still capable of believing it's possible that this is just a bad time in history and it won't all just go to s**t. Will I live to see it? *shrug*

I am sorry for bringing it up. I know that I should be trying to keep it together and not bring this toxic crud into what should be a safe space for us. Let the world run roughshod out there, but let the AGA be a place where we get four seconds without clenching teeth until the crack.


No I'm glad you did. Sometimes just expressing the fears and frustration is at least slightly better than letting it fester and believe you are the only one thinking these thoughts...

For what it's worth, .. you being able to exist in this world (especially despite the enormous challenges) makes it more livable to me. Not that it's your responsibility or you owe the world anything. You just make it better.
PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2020 1:47 am


My best friend's sister is moving out. The house belongs to my best friend and the rent pays the mortgage. He offered the house to me. My boyfriend has offered to move with me. If I don't do this, a lot of people will be disappointed in me and my best friend will probably have the house taken by the bank.

I don't want to do it. I don't even think I have it in me to do it. I don't want to go to Florida. But I feel like I HAVE TO do it. I know I am not happy and dying here, I know that if I want to commit suicide, I should just throw it all away on this chance... But it's not a chance I like the look of.


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Camwen

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2020 3:41 pm


Exxos
My best friend's sister is moving out. The house belongs to my best friend and the rent pays the mortgage. He offered the house to me. My boyfriend has offered to move with me. If I don't do this, a lot of people will be disappointed in me and my best friend will probably have the house taken by the bank.

I don't want to do it. I don't even think I have it in me to do it. I don't want to go to Florida. But I feel like I HAVE TO do it. I know I am not happy and dying here, I know that if I want to commit suicide, I should just throw it all away on this chance... But it's not a chance I like the look of.


Is it mostly because it's Florida? Or the effort of having to make such a big change? Is it at least in an area that's not too bad? What is it that makes it worse than your current situation? No judgment here - just curious.

EDIT: I hope you're still hanging on out there... You're worrying me more than usual. ((((hugs)))
PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2020 2:13 pm


Camwen
Exxos
My best friend's sister is moving out. The house belongs to my best friend and the rent pays the mortgage. He offered the house to me. My boyfriend has offered to move with me. If I don't do this, a lot of people will be disappointed in me and my best friend will probably have the house taken by the bank.

I don't want to do it. I don't even think I have it in me to do it. I don't want to go to Florida. But I feel like I HAVE TO do it. I know I am not happy and dying here, I know that if I want to commit suicide, I should just throw it all away on this chance... But it's not a chance I like the look of.


Is it mostly because it's Florida? Or the effort of having to make such a big change? Is it at least in an area that's not too bad? What is it that makes it worse than your current situation? No judgment here - just curious.

EDIT: I hope you're still hanging on out there... You're worrying me more than usual. ((((hugs)))

Sorry for the worry, I have not been able to log-in to gaia since later the night I posted that.

It's a lot of things. I don't like the climate in Florida and it's a fairly remote place — five miles to a market, twelve to "town," fifteen to functional town. So for someone with my mobility problems, not great. Then there is the money side of it, I have gotten a trust payment coming in now, but it's $1,600 to $32,000 per year and with the money mostly coming from rents and drugstore operations with Covid, the payments are even dodgier, I don't have the financial security even if I cut into my savings. If my boyfriend goes with me, he can get a job easier than I can (he is a professional baker), but I don't want to be in a position where I dragged him into oblivion if I can't make the cut — I know that financial bullshit is part of a relationship, but I am of the mindset that you have a solid relationship before finances go to s**t, not drag one or the other into it from the start. I am also concerned my best friend would push me too hard, that I would put everything into this, throw away all of my progress of the last 10 years, crash and burn out there from the sheer volume of stress and upheaval and then he'd be on my case to push for every possible everything — he's far from having anything given to him, but he has been lucky to be the type that could force anything to happen for him, so he thinks anyone can do it. Hell, he still does not get that a HUGE reason I probably will never drive is that I have blackouts multiple times per day and next to no peripheral vision.


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Camwen

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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 8:39 am


Exxos
Camwen
Exxos
My best friend's sister is moving out. The house belongs to my best friend and the rent pays the mortgage. He offered the house to me. My boyfriend has offered to move with me. If I don't do this, a lot of people will be disappointed in me and my best friend will probably have the house taken by the bank.

I don't want to do it. I don't even think I have it in me to do it. I don't want to go to Florida. But I feel like I HAVE TO do it. I know I am not happy and dying here, I know that if I want to commit suicide, I should just throw it all away on this chance... But it's not a chance I like the look of.


Is it mostly because it's Florida? Or the effort of having to make such a big change? Is it at least in an area that's not too bad? What is it that makes it worse than your current situation? No judgment here - just curious.

EDIT: I hope you're still hanging on out there... You're worrying me more than usual. ((((hugs)))

Sorry for the worry, I have not been able to log-in to gaia since later the night I posted that.

It's a lot of things. I don't like the climate in Florida and it's a fairly remote place — five miles to a market, twelve to "town," fifteen to functional town. So for someone with my mobility problems, not great. Then there is the money side of it, I have gotten a trust payment coming in now, but it's $1,600 to $32,000 per year and with the money mostly coming from rents and drugstore operations with Covid, the payments are even dodgier, I don't have the financial security even if I cut into my savings. If my boyfriend goes with me, he can get a job easier than I can (he is a professional baker), but I don't want to be in a position where I dragged him into oblivion if I can't make the cut — I know that financial bullshit is part of a relationship, but I am of the mindset that you have a solid relationship before finances go to s**t, not drag one or the other into it from the start. I am also concerned my best friend would push me too hard, that I would put everything into this, throw away all of my progress of the last 10 years, crash and burn out there from the sheer volume of stress and upheaval and then he'd be on my case to push for every possible everything — he's far from having anything given to him, but he has been lucky to be the type that could force anything to happen for him, so he thinks anyone can do it. Hell, he still does not get that a HUGE reason I probably will never drive is that I have blackouts multiple times per day and next to no peripheral vision.


Yeah for sure those are legitimate concerns. I hope your best friend can come to understand your point of view. Your boyfriend sounds like an awesome person - especially being willing to go where you go. It's too bad the house isn't located in a better place for you.
PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2020 12:17 am


Camwen
Yeah for sure those are legitimate concerns.

You and Gemstone are the ones who have felt they were legitimate. It makes me feel a lot less insane.
Camwen
I hope your best friend can come to understand your point of view.

He is livid at me and immensely depressed in general. So I should have seized on it regardless of my own destruction just to spare that.
Camwen
Your boyfriend sounds like an awesome person - especially being willing to go where you go.

Sometimes I wonder if he's too good to be true. Then I just figure karma is balancing the scales — everything else is s**t, but awesome boyfriend. xp
Camwen
It's too bad the house isn't located in a better place for you.

If the area had started development 10 years ago, or this offer 10 years from now, it would likely be a far different situation.


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Camwen

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2020 6:53 am


Exxos
Camwen
Yeah for sure those are legitimate concerns.

You and Gemstone are the ones who have felt they were legitimate. It makes me feel a lot less insane.
Camwen
I hope your best friend can come to understand your point of view.

He is livid at me and immensely depressed in general. So I should have seized on it regardless of my own destruction just to spare that.
Camwen
Your boyfriend sounds like an awesome person - especially being willing to go where you go.

Sometimes I wonder if he's too good to be true. Then I just figure karma is balancing the scales — everything else is s**t, but awesome boyfriend. xp
Camwen
It's too bad the house isn't located in a better place for you.

If the area had started development 10 years ago, or this offer 10 years from now, it would likely be a far different situation.


I guess your best friends depression is keeping him from really seeing how things are past himself. Depression is a terrible thing to deal with -not only for the person who has it. Sometimes you have to just save yourself and not be drawn down into their void as well. But I'm sure you already know that. It's easier said than done.
Is it at all possible for you and your boyfriend to start things fresh at a location that would be good for both of you? I know during a pandemic isn't ideal but then again there's probably never a perfect time.
PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2020 9:38 pm


Camwen
Is it at all possible for you and your boyfriend to start things fresh at a location that would be good for both of you? I know during a pandemic isn't ideal but then again there's probably never a perfect time.

We're looking into various aspects. Some money aside for traveling. Though he is laid off at the moment, so his funds are going into survival. Once covid subsides, hopefully we can have just enough stability to scout. He wants to go to the SF bay area and I am opposed to going back to CA. Anchorage, Colorado Springs, and coastal Oregon are on his short list. Eastern Montana, Colorado Springs, Anchorage, and New Hampshire are on mine. So we have some overlaps to check first. We've also both considered leaving the US, but it does not seem too feasible apart from maybe Canada.

But yeah, it's openly under consideration. We're just at a point where we want to scout a little and have some nest egg set aside before trying. The pandemic is less of a "not a good time" and more of a "well, that's adding 4 months or more lag onto our plans."


Exxos

Captain

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Camwen

Distinct Dabbler

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2020 8:39 am


Exxos
Camwen
Is it at all possible for you and your boyfriend to start things fresh at a location that would be good for both of you? I know during a pandemic isn't ideal but then again there's probably never a perfect time.

We're looking into various aspects. Some money aside for traveling. Though he is laid off at the moment, so his funds are going into survival. Once covid subsides, hopefully we can have just enough stability to scout. He wants to go to the SF bay area and I am opposed to going back to CA. Anchorage, Colorado Springs, and coastal Oregon are on his short list. Eastern Montana, Colorado Springs, Anchorage, and New Hampshire are on mine. So we have some overlaps to check first. We've also both considered leaving the US, but it does not seem too feasible apart from maybe Canada.

But yeah, it's openly under consideration. We're just at a point where we want to scout a little and have some nest egg set aside before trying. The pandemic is less of a "not a good time" and more of a "well, that's adding 4 months or more lag onto our plans."


Nice lists! I'm in the Pacific NW myself (SW of Portland) and just love it here. Colorado Springs is also a beautiful area. Good luck on your search for a good place to safely land.
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