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 Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:27 am
I know you only meant that in a lighthearted way but that can be really hurtful. It is not kind or remotely accurate to say all Muslims are terrorists.
I certainly don't mean to attack you for this! I only want to point out that this kind of joke isn't in the best taste. ((((HUGS))))
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:39 pm
Well it may not be in the best of taste, But it is a grand idea for us red blooded men.
BTW-Am I the only one who thinks that common courtesy is a past fad these days? Am I the only one who kind of gets offended when I leave someone a comment or buy a gift from their wish list as a friendly jesture on my part, and the reciever doesn't even bother to say "Thank you". or make the effort to return the comment. I know right now that I sound like Andy Ruinie from 60 minutes, but it seems that common courtesy is a lost art much like the art of letter writing. Who else share's this opinion or disagrees with it and why?
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:52 pm
I believe the Etiquette and Tolerance rules apply here. Careful what you post before you post it people. No warnings, but I'm deleting Pink's post. Just letting you know
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:58 pm
Small reminder. The Spotlight threads get put back in their forums soon so if you're attached to a particular thread, check which forum it normally belongs in so you can follow it back there once it's moved ^_^
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:34 pm
Hi everybuddy. Taking a lazy day and staying in bed all morning and most of the afternoon i think. I did get up to go get breakfast burritos for shar myself and michael. Shar me and a couple friends went out drinking last night. We had a good time and I drank alot... we all did. feeling good though. no hangover. Just tired and kinda out of it for once.
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 2:00 pm
Yes, common decency and etiquette is largely dead, so is the spirit of humanity and all hope for the future. We live in a world where stupidity, rudeness, and abuse of each other is not just tolerated, but often celebrated and rewarded.
As you can probably tell, I have my own sensitivities on the topic and don't mince words – they taste better whole.
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 2:09 pm
@Aaron - I have mixed feelings about the courtesy issue actually.
(first the disclaimers 4laugh :This is just my opinion - take it or leave it. And I'm certainly not directing this at anyone specifically. They are just my thoughts on an interesting topic)
Yes I do agree that in general it's good manners to say thank you or at least respond when someone gives a gift or kind remark - which by and large I've actually had very good experience with.
Having said that, there are a few things to take into account...
-I don't think gifts should be given with the expectation of a thank you. It's a very nice bonus if you do get one. But just as it's bad manners not to say thank you I also think it's bad manners to expect a specific response in return for a gift.
-If you're on the internet, you're dealing with people you don't really know well. If someone has very limited time online they might have to prioritize what they respond to. Things get overlooked, nobody is perfect. There's a difference between overt rudeness and no response. With no response you really don't know the real reason for it. Maybe the whole reason someone is on the internet is because they have trouble with direct interactions with others. I try not to dwell on it too much.
-How well do you know the person? Maybe I'm paranoid but if I'm given something from a user name I don't recognize I'm automatically suspicious (because this has happened to me before) that someone is trying to befriend me in order to get something (my personal information, or items, or account).
-Kids especially are wise not to strike up a conversation with strangers on the internet.
So is it a past fad? I don't know. I've seen a lot of kindness and generosity here so I know it's not gone (and yes I've seen a lot of rudeness too). All I can do personally is try to remember to say thank you when someone is kind to me. xd
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:56 pm
♦ ♣ ♥ ♠
Common courtesy? It's rare that I see random acts of kindness being executed in everyday life, but I don't think it's totally lost.
@Responding to Comments- I don't always do this. I don't always respond to my PM's, but I always have a reason. I tend to not respond if the person I'm talking to is upsetting me (and I know them well enough to not one-up them and make them feel silly for obvious rudeness on their part) or if I feel that there's no relevant substance to the conversation. If someone's just posting 'hi' to me, and I say 'hi' back, and they reply again with 'hi'- I'm not responding. I'll also stop responding if I don't have a good response or if the message left doesn't seem to want a response.
@Rude for the sake of Rude- Lots of people do this. I know I'm rude to people sometimes- if they start asking me for personal info, I flat out tell them I'm not giving anything to a total stranger I met on the internet. I know it's rude, but I'm not going to find a way to sugar coat that when they're fishing for details. I'll also respond rudely to people who are rude or totally irritating to me for no reason- such as those random beggars people who go to rally are sure to have encountered. If you're asking me for my hard earned gold without so much as a 'hello' or any kind of conversation beforehand, hells no- you're getting the rude 'go away' response.
Otherwise, I tend to at least TRY to be nice to all the people I meet. I'm not a mean person by nature and I hate fighting, so being pleasant is the best way to avoid this.
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:08 pm
Yahoooooo today I bought my Fremere's Guard for only 304k smile
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:44 pm
Wow I've missed a lot in the past few days..
Welcome back to the club Joe, we've missed ya! *glomp/huggles*
Etiquette and Common Courtesy??? hmm.. I think for the most part I'd just repeat everything Camwen said. It is easy to get upset and riled when you feel you are being shrugged off or ignored.. and I know I hate not getting thank-you's too.. It definitely doesn't encourage one to continue being nice. But at the same time.. Cam's right when she said you never know for sure why you didn't get a response.. I always try to give the benefit of the doubt.. Something my mom said once when we were driving on the highway somewhere and somebody cut me off and I got all lippy.. "For all you know they are on their way to the hospital cause some one they love is dying...." and from that moment on I've tried to always kind of assume that people have a valid reason for their actions.
All that said though.. people can be jerks.. but as long as we don't turn into those people we'll be fine. *hugs*
@ Lamb. Congrats on the purchase.. I don't remember what I paid for mine.. and there have been sooooo many more ei's that have come out that I want.. but I can't afford any of them right now.. and with christmas right around the corner I really need to just focus on saving up for gifts lol.
Where I've been for the past 2 days.. Monday is my oldest daughter's birthday.. and tonight was/is her very first sleep over.. so I spent all day yesterday wrapping presents and cleaning.. and spent all day today busy with kids.. I think they might all actually be asleep finally.. it's only 2 1/2 hrs. past bed time lol.. and gawd am I exhausted.. I'll try to catch up on everything else I missed more tomorrow.. I hope you all are having a good weekend! *hugs*
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:39 pm
Happy Birthday to your daughter Erin! I hope the sleepover is going well. xd
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 7:36 am
Evening guys! I'm going back to work tomorrow. My fever has gone down during the weekend so I'm feeling pretty confident that tomorrow should be ok day.
On the etiquette issue, I think it's good manners to at least some how tell that you have noticed the nice gesture. Simple thank you is usually enough but of course not everyone sees it important or simply forgets. I know I have once or twice forgotten to thank some one and I haven't done it to be mean, I just simply have had too much stuff to attend to to remember everything. whee
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:24 pm
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:05 pm
yay for more craptastic MC's.... scream
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