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I don't know. That rule doesn't seem to fit the character to me. Why wouldn't a lycan hunter who is also a lycan use his race to get into the lycan establishments and get inside info, then swoop in for the kill? Same thing with vampire hunters who are vampires.

Because everyone needs a hideout. The Hunters have theirs, the Lycans have theirs.. You can't have the best of both worlds, you chose a race/job and you stick with it getting the perks of that chosen race/job. Its not fair to have Hunters happily getting into everyones hideouts.

But why does it have to be fair? Say it were real life and you were a lycan that hunted lycans. If you found a lycan base and were able to disguise yourself as a non-hunter, wouldn't you go in there to get some inside info? And then use that information to your advantage so you can have the upper hand against them? I just think we should stay true to the characters. The world itself is not balance, so why should this one be? If someone is stronger than you, you just have to fight harder. That's the way it is in real life at least. But think about it, if someone wa able to deliver a killing blow to their enemy and they wanted to kill them, why wouldn't they? It's not too complicated when the proper systems are used. If someone would allow their characters to die, then let them get killed, perhaps they'll just let you know if it happens. The way most RP's do it is the owner of the character decides whether or not their character dies, not the moderaters.

Edit: And say someone stumbled upon a hideout. Would they just automatically not be there because it's the rule? Just because someone is hiding does not mean they cannot be found. The characters just have to do a good job of keeping security tight. It's like having a no attack policy during a war accept on nuetral ground. If a crazed oni were to se a lycan he hates go into a lycan hideout, would he not get bloodthirsty and engraged and just barge in and either kill or die? Or would he just stand there and walk away because there's some divine presence that forbids him from attacking the hideout?

Yes that is often a problem. But there are ways around it. Think about it, your having a war. People are going to die. I see it as more of a guild wide god mode if no one ever dies. It doesn't make sense when mortal enemies have the opportunity to kill eachother, but don't.

But don't get me wrong about all this, I'll follow all of the rules, I'll just debate them in the process.

That's the way RP is though. Sometimes your stuck between a rock and a hard place. Either god mode or die. But if you look at other guilds there is no rule agaisnt killing as long as the defending character's owner agrees. But many of those threads don't have any problems with god moding. Think about it, in order not to die, you would simply have to dodge the killing blow, not every blow, just the killing blow. Or you could even let it glance you. This doesn't mean every other strike can't hit you. Dodging or deflecting a strike here and there isn't god moding. Never taking a hit IS god moding. But you would be taking the smaller hits anyways. So there you have it. The character doesn't die, no one god modes, everyone is happy. And I think for a more enriching RP people should stay true to their characters. And you haven't answered any of my scenarios. Would your character you attack a lycan base or spy on a lycan base as a hunter if they were able to? Yes or no?

depends on the orders she is given by her leader. and IF her orders said so, then the group she would be sent to spy on would PROBABLY be a lycan group of NPC's, or a group that is posting in one of the threads that isnt locks to the other races. no one seems to have a real problem with this, to be honest, i dont. i rather like the concept. And, just a bit of friendly advice, dont base your argument on hypothetical scenarios...^.^''

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*Sigh* My points are missed. Oh well.

I'm just saying we should be true to our characters.