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I would say he is a anti-hero but ah well.

Actually the Japanese version says that Meta Knight thinks Dreamland (Wait its called Pupuland in Japanese right? ) is 'corrupt'. So in his eyes, he was going to be doing Dreamland a favor. Course, knowing Meta Knight, he would just become corrupt with power as well. I don't think he was after any revenge. Not unless King Dedede did something to him and pissed him off? *shrugs*

Keep in mind that Revenge of Meta Knight is timed. They can't just let you sit there forever and wait for you to pick up the sword. Also, Meta Knight isn't about to wait till the ship crashes and the two of you drawn all because someone would not pick up their sword. He was also probably a little ticked off because his ship was destroyed.

Whoever thought Nightmare took control of Meta Knight must have been smoking some powerful stuff. eek

Meta Knight is rash. That doesn't mean he is evil. Thats why he attacked Marth with little reason. Its quite obvious that Meta Knight has one hell of a temper.

I think Meta Knight rescued the Pokemon trainer and Lucas for dramatic effect. Also, they were probably pretty far away by the time they saw them? Who knows. Though I doubt Ike and Marth would have been yelling at Meta Knight to help them. If Meta Knight didn't want to help anyone they he would not have. No matter how much you yell at him about it. From what I can tell....Meta knight is stubborn.

That is stretching it a bit with Snake. Maybe people noticed that Meta Knight's ship was housing a ton of bad guys and Snake was sent on a mission to find out what was going on by someone else.

I thought Lucario was fighting Meta Knight because he wanted a challenge? I don't know but he didn't do that aura seeing ability of his so maybe he really didn't know. Later on however, Meta Knight DOES have a blue aura.

Meta Knight was out to get his ship back. No doubt about that. I guess Meta Knight was so ticked off at everything that happened that he had a one mind track at the moment. (Ironically when he gets his ship back it only blows up while trying to get revenge.)

Brawl makes Meta Knight seem more hot headed than anything. Not really evil. If he was evil then why didn't Tabuu try to recruit him to help through Master Hand like he did the other villains?

NOW what if we took all other games into account. I just started to think about this and is it really right to just say "Well we can only say what Sakurai did was cannon" Does that mean all the Sonic games that Yuji Naka didn't do are not cannon to Sonic's personality? Hmmm....how does that work? Also, why lean Meta Knight to such a good guy direction in the anime? I know its different and not cannon but if Meta Knight was supposed to lean to be that evil they why didn't he?

The Answer.....we don't ******** no. Meta Knight has no personality! My god I have never known a character to have as horrifying of a personality complex as Meta Knight. (Well at least he isn't having a gender complex)

BAH! My head hurts. Listens to Music I feel better now.

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1. Pupupuland = Dreamland. Same thing. Also, "Dreamland's Lazy Lifestyle will come to an end" is pretty much the same ideology that Dreamland is "Corrupt". It's the same reasoning pretty much, just different use of how he says it. The game is just called, "Revenge of Meta Knight" so if there's no actual REVENGE, why Revenge in the title?

2. That's true that it is timed, however, if you do the same in the Arena boss-battles, which is not timed, he still gets ticked after an amount of time. Another interesting thing is that no matter WHAT time you finish the game in, you always have roughly 40 seconds to get off the ship in the final part of the game. During this, Meta Knight returns and attacks you to prevent you from getting off the ship (even if he goes down with it!). In the end credits, he barely escapes his ship before it crashes. So the whole idea that "it's timed" is a bit flawed in that sense, since he probably could have escaped, and even after the fight, continues to go after you even if it means going down with his ship. Furthermore, in Kirby: Squeak Squad, he never offers you a sword. And by offer I mean, throwing it at you and having the "GET IT", there is a bubble ability prior to that contains the sword.

3. I honestly say Meta Knight is just trigger-happy about killing stuff, and that is something you find more in a villain-istic character, not a hero one. As for saving Lucas and Trainer...beh, I kind of don't care about that.

4. You forgot the "SAKURAI AND KOJIMA ARE BUDDIES" fact. That alone means that Snake could pretty much be there just for the sake of Meta Knight. No questions asked. It's not stretching it at all, YOU think of any logical reasons that Snake would be on that ship. The whole "There's a lot of bad-guys" thing doesn't work because, as people who play the MGS games know, it's about AVOIDING the enemy. Going head-strong into an area crawling with them is not the best plan of action. As for "someone else", who would that be? The reason Meta Knight works is because it's his bloody ship. I don't see any other character within Brawl that would give him the mission "Go infiltrate that ship".

5. Lucario didn't engage into combat with the Ice Climbers, and he's just kind of sitting there. He tries to look at Meta Knight, and fails (the aura thing). So yeah, it was more than likely a fight to determine MK's allegiance. I honestly doubt that Pokemon sit on mountains and get bored and just randomly pick fights. Trainers can do that, but the actual pokemon seems too farfetch'd(lol, pokemon) to me.

6. Actually, Tabuu recruited no one. He controlled Master Hand, and Master Hand was the one that had Bowser and Gannondorf under him, not Tabuu. Gannondorf gets ******** pissed off when he learns that Tabuu has been pulling the ropes for the whole thing. As for not taking Meta Knight, again, Meta Knight doesn't really give a crap for either side. Wario is greedy, therefore, promise money and he's in. But there's nothing Meta Knight would exactly want. (And it more (sort of) supports the Marx theory as Marx would probably not like another Kirby character working with him)

7. Well, the first thing to note here is:
Naka didn't MAKE Sonic! Shocking fact. While Yuji Naka has indeed been one of the major producers for the Sonic games, he is actually not the father of Sonic like Sakurai is the father of Kirby. As well, Sakurai, as we can see, was a lot more attached to his characters, thus, if we were to ask him, it would indeed be canon. Since Sonic goes every which-way about what-not, that is a lot more hazy, even from a long-time series' producer to figure out. Now asking Sakurai and only looking at his games is indeed not the best way, it's the only logical idea right now since Flagship models Meta Knight after the anime, and not the original games. As for the changing of characters....EVERYONE was changed in that, O_o; Dedede, while greedy in the games, is not an overall evil tyrant like the anime depict him; Kirby is not a young and unintelligent baby; Kine is not after a girl that is not of the same species; Kracko doesn't give you sword ability; Nigthmare didn't create some of the demons such as Ice Dragon, as they were from Kirby games which he did not take part in; Etcetera.
Everything got changed in the anime, so to question why Meta Knight got changed is pointless, since everything else got moved around as well.

Whatever then...

1. Lazy and corrupt are not the same thing. Look up the words and you will see. Corruption is more of an evil thing. Lazy is just a bad habit but not evil. So not its not that same thing. Maybe the title is implying Meta Knight wanted Revenge against Dreamland? Maybe something really bad happened? Or we are thinking way into this....

2. I'm sorry. Forgive Meta Knight for being pissed off about his life's work going down the drain. Maybe Meta Knight was trying to teach Kirby a lesson of what happens when you hesitate for way too long in battle. MAYBE the creators thought, "Gee its not really a good idea to have them stand there all day. What if they really want to use another ability. Maybe we should give them that option." I have heard about that in Sqeak Squad. They did a similar thing in Amazing Mirror but it was Mirror Meta Knight. I don't know what the hell is going on with that. I think the new directors just didn't pay enough attention to how important it is that Meta Knight gives you a sword.

3. I have heard of hero characters being trigger happy with killing. It just depends on what they kill. It doesn't make them that much of a villain. Also, everyone is pretty trigger happy about Killing in Brawl. (Well most that is.) This is my fault. I should have never brought that game up since....no it just doesn't work after all.

4. Yes they are buddies. That is why EVENTUALLY Snake and Meta Knight team up. That doesn't mean they teamed up from the beginning. Snake is about gathering info from the enemy right? Well the enemy is on that ship so he has to go. I just find it hard to believe Meta Knight would be willing to call someone else to get on his ship and tell him about HIS ship when he can't even get on board. Meta Knight just seems the type not willing to go that far due to his ego. I could be wrong though. Its all opinion and theory. Nothing is stated about this, not even some of the behind the scene stuff. So there is no guarantee that is what happened.

5. Yeah...and that's why Meta Knight brings Lucario back to life and shakes his hand even after some strange guy at the top of a mountain suddenly started to attack him. :/ Its because of that scene that it makes me feel that it was just a friendly fight. Lucario on top of the mountain means he was training. What better way to train than to fight a worthy opponent. Lucario has no trainer. Therefore he trains himself. (Or at least this one does.) I don't think it is farfetched for a Pokemon to train itself. I don't want to bring up the anime but I will. Mewoth tought himself to walk on two legs and talk because his trainer told him to? No. There are some Pokemon that like to train and fight a lot. They are not just animals. A lot of them have great intelligence. The ones with higher intelligence I would assume would train more than others.

6. that is true but........crap I can't reply to this. I need to hurry up.

7. Yeah I forgot to mention that. Yuji Naka helped create Sonic. It was a joint effort. I forgot the name of the other guy that helped. He was the one that truly started it though. He didn't stay at Sega very long at all though.

Oh yeah I forgot. Kracko gives you high jumps. Anyway, you are right. Everyone had to go through a lot of changes. Though does that mean its not really cannon? Why would Sakurai change his characters so much? I am really asking for this one.

Whatever? I hope you are saying that about my music link.

I won't keep reply like this for long. Its all opinion and no facts and there is no ending. I am starting to get tired of this long of a debat.....and busy.....and irritated.

That's why I was not blaming you. Though I felt annoyed, I had a feeling that I was not doing any better. So I am just going to stop arguing. We all have are own opinions so lets leave it at that. (Though I do agree with everything you just said in the last post.)

Sorry if I sounded like such a pain.

I really wish I had some sort of magic crap-reaser right now. How-'bout we all drink Virtual Grape Juice instead?

(I understand how you feel Kenta. I was an internet jerk for months when somebody I knew died.)

I hope things change for the better for everyone. Cheers! =D

*serves Nomad more juice*