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Shiori Miko

PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:10 pm


I just realized I have something else to worry about. Luckily, I'm seeing my Rheuma in a week. Until then, I can just calm down because he's the right doctor to have this discussion with.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:49 pm


Mickey2146
I'm not sure if this belongs in the SD, but I couldn't think of a thread to really put this in. Smaller font for less scrolling..

Why am I so sensitive about race? It shouldn't matter what anyone looks like or their nationality or race or what ever you want to call it. Yet still, I feel uncomfortable when others feel comfortable talking about it. For example, 2 of my friends were talking (friend 1=American, white, girl; friend 2=Italian, derp, male.) and he was telling Friend 1 about how Girl A talks differently when talking to different people. How Girl A talks "normally" when talking to white people but talks "black" when talking to "black people." Then he goes on to mimic her talking to different people. Friend 1 just laughs. Is it bad for me to feel awkward (just standing there not in the conversation)?

Then the past week, Friend 2 and Acquaintance A kept telling me that I should just become an American citizen. (I have a duel citizenship atm.) *Because I was complaining that I can't get my driver's license due to my picture on my Greencard not being updated when I was 14. The two argued that I should just become a US Citizen because a) I don't exactly know where I want to live in the future, so why not the US; b) It'll facilitate paperwork with the government. I guess they don't realize that naturalization process is long and there are so many little holes that can trip you up on the way. Last year, in government class, we were told to take a sample of the naturalization test. No one in my class passed it. And they STILL expect that becoming a citizen is "easy as *snap fingers*?" Are they just being inconsiderate? Or am I just being too proud of my nationality?

While I was thinking this all over in my head, I realized something weird about myself. I used to get kind of mad when someone would just call me "Asian," and I would argue/tell the person I was Japanese. A few years later, I remember overhearing that Japanese people hate being called Chinese. (Huge stereotype, I know, but regarding that point) I realized that it was kind of true for me when I was younger. *I don't really care being called "Asian" but the whole "What kind of Asian are you" question still irks me...

When people ask "Where are you from?" It kind of puts me in an off mood. I try to throw off the question by answering "Do you mean where I was born?" When I answer "Canada," they get mad at me. Exactly what do they expect me to say? "I came from my mommy's tummy when daddy had fun one night?" I mean, wth?

They say the US is a "melting pot" and race doesn't really matter anymore after the Civil War. (haha, BS.) How do they expect me to feel when I'm sitting next to people who say "Go back to where you came from." or "This is America, speak English/American." I always just end up sitting/standing there, quiet, feeling awkward. Sure, I'll joke around time to time, but only regarding myself and no others.

Am I just thinking this way because I ended up living in the US? Because I was always so different and the only Asian in my elementary/pre-k classes? Is race really just what society labels others?

I'm sure there's a few people who may read this and think "wtf, you're too sensitive, just deal with it. You're over reacting." But am I? Would you still feel the same in my shoes?
-x-

Just a rant..
When I say get off the f****** flute/stand, get off the f****** flute/stand and get away from the area/my wrath. Her flute was already crushed by a fat mother slipping and falling on her flute, and you think I want the flutes to be crushed by a falling, stupid freshman? When I'm screaming at you to GET OFF, it means GET OFF. I don't show my anger often (At least to people I don't know that well...) so please respect my screaming and GET OFF. Alright, now that I'm a little calm, let's be logical here. You're standing on one foot, trying not to touch the person next to you and you have another foot on the flute. Are you touching the flute? Yes. Is there a chance that you could step out to try to catch your balance when you fall? Yes. Get away from the f****** flutes.


Paragraph 1. You don't really need to feel awkward about it. I'd say that's pretty normal, considering some people speak differently after watching a movie with a different accent/slang/other differences in speech. Plus, they're probably trying to fit in/stay fit in, or they just don't really notice it and it's become second nature to them.
Paragraph 2. I'd say it's mostly them not knowing how much trouble it really is. It's also partly because you're their friend/good(?) acquaintance and think it'd be good to finalize your citizenship "in case the FBI suddenly comes and takes you away for being an illegal immigrant so they can deport you back to the desolate town you once lived in or something else like that used in shows, movies, blah blah blah whatever else".
Paragraph 3+4. It's kind of common for someone to ask something like that, unfortunately. I'd probably ask something like where you lived before coming to the US when/if I had learned you weren't originally from here (I didn't know it before now, but I do now so it might save some trouble, I guess?). Wanting to know someone's race is also pretty common with people, especially if they find out that someone is from outside the country. When they ask where you're from, just tell them where you lived before. Don't worry about asking where you were born. They'll get angry whether or not you ask that and reply the answer if they really think it's that important. Don't worry about them and move on.
Paragraph 5. People who do that are just jerks. They're not worth your time.
Paragraph 6. 1. It's possible it has something to do with it. 2. Same answer for the first sentence. 3. Yes and no. It's gonna be used for separating different kinds of people in some way, at least. Whether it's to put a person in the perceived ____ race group or a thought of them liking some kind of food, it's gonna have at least some labeling effect. How much it does for each person is different, though.
Paragraph 7. I think you are overreacting a little bit, at least. However, it's quite possible I or another person would feel just the same way.
Rant. Next time they do it, punch them in the face. Or just keep the flute off the floor or out of the way (like under a chair or something)?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 4:25 am


Mickey2146
I'm not sure if this belongs in the SD, but I couldn't think of a thread to really put this in. Smaller font for less scrolling..

Why am I so sensitive about race? It shouldn't matter what anyone looks like or their nationality or race or what ever you want to call it. Yet still, I feel uncomfortable when others feel comfortable talking about it. For example, 2 of my friends were talking (friend 1=American, white, girl; friend 2=Italian, derp, male.) and he was telling Friend 1 about how Girl A talks differently when talking to different people. How Girl A talks "normally" when talking to white people but talks "black" when talking to "black people." Then he goes on to mimic her talking to different people. Friend 1 just laughs. Is it bad for me to feel awkward (just standing there not in the conversation)?

Then the past week, Friend 2 and Acquaintance A kept telling me that I should just become an American citizen. (I have a duel citizenship atm.) *Because I was complaining that I can't get my driver's license due to my picture on my Greencard not being updated when I was 14. The two argued that I should just become a US Citizen because a) I don't exactly know where I want to live in the future, so why not the US; b) It'll facilitate paperwork with the government. I guess they don't realize that naturalization process is long and there are so many little holes that can trip you up on the way. Last year, in government class, we were told to take a sample of the naturalization test. No one in my class passed it. And they STILL expect that becoming a citizen is "easy as *snap fingers*?" Are they just being inconsiderate? Or am I just being too proud of my nationality?

While I was thinking this all over in my head, I realized something weird about myself. I used to get kind of mad when someone would just call me "Asian," and I would argue/tell the person I was Japanese. A few years later, I remember overhearing that Japanese people hate being called Chinese. (Huge stereotype, I know, but regarding that point) I realized that it was kind of true for me when I was younger. *I don't really care being called "Asian" but the whole "What kind of Asian are you" question still irks me...

When people ask "Where are you from?" It kind of puts me in an off mood. I try to throw off the question by answering "Do you mean where I was born?" When I answer "Canada," they get mad at me. Exactly what do they expect me to say? "I came from my mommy's tummy when daddy had fun one night?" I mean, wth?

They say the US is a "melting pot" and race doesn't really matter anymore after the Civil War. (haha, BS.) How do they expect me to feel when I'm sitting next to people who say "Go back to where you came from." or "This is America, speak English/American." I always just end up sitting/standing there, quiet, feeling awkward. Sure, I'll joke around time to time, but only regarding myself and no others.

Am I just thinking this way because I ended up living in the US? Because I was always so different and the only Asian in my elementary/pre-k classes? Is race really just what society labels others?

I'm sure there's a few people who may read this and think "wtf, you're too sensitive, just deal with it. You're over reacting." But am I? Would you still feel the same in my shoes?
-x-

Just a rant..
When I say get off the f****** flute/stand, get off the f****** flute/stand and get away from the area/my wrath. Her flute was already crushed by a fat mother slipping and falling on her flute, and you think I want the flutes to be crushed by a falling, stupid freshman? When I'm screaming at you to GET OFF, it means GET OFF. I don't show my anger often (At least to people I don't know that well...) so please respect my screaming and GET OFF. Alright, now that I'm a little calm, let's be logical here. You're standing on one foot, trying not to touch the person next to you and you have another foot on the flute. Are you touching the flute? Yes. Is there a chance that you could step out to try to catch your balance when you fall? Yes. Get away from the f****** flutes.



It probably because people bugged you loads about it maybe?thta could be why your sensitive


As for becoming a citizen, its pretty difficult no matter where you go, some places may have loop holes or easy options but it usually takes alot of time as for living thingy... do/go somewhere that makes/you think you ll be happy

heh Your similar to me and my lil bro, he hates it when people call him asian and I dislike it when people call me french just because I can speak it, I think not everyone that asks means it in a bad way sometimes theres just one or two silly curious people that are innocent

As the Canada thingy, people shouldnt get mad and just accept it, since where you come from or where your born has not much to do with how you look.They need to stop being silly


I dont know, if people made it seem that way and kind of pointed it out and stuff then I can see why kind of =/
sorry Im not much help on this thingy I usually talk to you on skype heh


why wouldnt she just go away?=S o.o
PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 4:38 am


Pay no Attention to the below(You dont want to read this)

Ok ohsnap! I woke up 4 am on the floor infront of my bedroom door o.o
I clearly remember going to sleep in my bed o.o
Anyway I got up and as soon as I stood up and tried to move I went boom again -__-
I m soo angry at myself
I m angry at my body
why the hell is it failing me?
I feel like a failure I guess, Im just sooo...
grrrr heh Kam doesnt have time to be failing now
to much to do, to many people depending on Kam
Kam wants to make people happy Kam cant do that if he cant control inside juju

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 6:12 am


Allow me to truncate your post into tinier ones to answer more effectively.

Mickey2146


Why am I so sensitive about race? It shouldn't matter what anyone looks like or their nationality or race or what ever you want to call it. Yet still, I feel uncomfortable when others feel comfortable talking about it. For example, 2 of my friends were talking (friend 1=American, white, girl; friend 2=Italian, derp, male.) and he was telling Friend 1 about how Girl A talks differently when talking to different people. How Girl A talks "normally" when talking to white people but talks "black" when talking to "black people." Then he goes on to mimic her talking to different people. Friend 1 just laughs. Is it bad for me to feel awkward (just standing there not in the conversation)?


That can be awkward for those more sensitive to the ethnicity and they probably weren't aware that you were. I find such conversations very routine, though. It's no different from someone mimicking a girl speaking with her friends and then to her parents.

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Then the past week, Friend 2 and Acquaintance A kept telling me that I should just become an American citizen. (I have a duel citizenship atm.) *Because I was complaining that I can't get my driver's license due to my picture on my Greencard not being updated when I was 14. The two argued that I should just become a US Citizen because a) I don't exactly know where I want to live in the future, so why not the US; b) It'll facilitate paperwork with the government. I guess they don't realize that naturalization process is long and there are so many little holes that can trip you up on the way. Last year, in government class, we were told to take a sample of the naturalization test. No one in my class passed it. And they STILL expect that becoming a citizen is "easy as *snap fingers*?" Are they just being inconsiderate? Or am I just being too proud of my nationality?


I think it's great that you're a dual citizen. I'd kill to be. But yeah, most Americans have no idea how hard the naturalization process is at all. I happen to be able to pass that exam (not that I need to ever) but that's just because I'm good with American history and law. Most people aren't and those that pass the process promptly forget it. I think the way they do it is a bit dumb, but immigration is an issue right now.

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While I was thinking this all over in my head, I realized something weird about myself. I used to get kind of mad when someone would just call me "Asian," and I would argue/tell the person I was Japanese. A few years later, I remember overhearing that Japanese people hate being called Chinese. (Huge stereotype, I know, but regarding that point) I realized that it was kind of true for me when I was younger. *I don't really care being called "Asian" but the whole "What kind of Asian are you" question still irks me...


The mixed blessing of being a pure Chinese is that they immediately assume I'm Chinese because I'm Asian. The other part about it is that I always get asked if I'm from another country because apparently, non-mixed folk in the States is rare? I don't understand it myself, but that irks me far more than "What kind of Asian are you?"

That being said, I get mistaken for Vietnamese, Singaporean, Malaysian all the time (especially here. What? o.O)

Anyway, it's normal to get used to such questions or assumptions when you grow more used to it. It's just a way of life and people can't help it if they get mistaken for another ethnicity or nationality.

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When people ask "Where are you from?" It kind of puts me in an off mood. I try to throw off the question by answering "Do you mean where I was born?" When I answer "Canada," they get mad at me. Exactly what do they expect me to say? "I came from my mommy's tummy when daddy had fun one night?" I mean, wth?


OK, I don't get people offended when I answer the truth, so I don't know what the problem of those people are. More likely than not, they're just ignorant and want you to fit into their ideas about nationality and ethnicity.

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They say the US is a "melting pot" and race doesn't really matter anymore after the Civil War. (haha, BS.) How do they expect me to feel when I'm sitting next to people who say "Go back to where you came from." or "This is America, speak English/American." I always just end up sitting/standing there, quiet, feeling awkward. Sure, I'll joke around time to time, but only regarding myself and no others.


Pfft, some other nations also claim the same thing. In the end, differences in appearance will always make things awkward for people. Especially if there is a labeled, universally accepted term for the said difference. Race matters. It didn't really hit me until I was clearly discriminated against during University admissions here. I also get extremely uncomfortable when not with Asians in the States. The reason being I get stared at as if I'm the foreigner, so I understand how you feel about the whole melting pot business. I get less discrimination in Europe.

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Am I just thinking this way because I ended up living in the US? Because I was always so different and the only Asian in my elementary/pre-k classes? Is race really just what society labels others?


Alright, real pet peeve of mine is when people decide to say 'race' instead of 'ethnicity'. We are all part of the human race, thank you very much. You are thinking this way partly because you live in the US now. It's a misfortune that you ended up the token Asian kid in your class when you were young, but yes, your environment does shape the way you grow up. Had you gone to school with a mostly Japanese class, things would be different. Same for an evenly-mixed class.

You're a lot less sensitive about the issue than some people I know, I assure you.
PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:41 am


She's a b***h, the biggest b***h, the biggest b***h in the whole wide world. She's a b***h, the biggest b***h, the biggest b***h, boys and girls!
God, so today was our homecoming parade and I wad there for theatre. Well my friend's (the one I'm currently not talking to because he's a jerk) ex-girlfriend was there. I was with my other friend (the one who is now dating him -.-) and she was like "Amela is just standing there, that's awkward.."
Well apparently this chick though we were laughing at her and CALLED HER MOM TO b***h OUT MY FRIEND.
Seriously? You can't even call us out yourself? You have to have your mom to do it for you? And her mom threatened my friend saying that if she laughed at her again she would get in trouble with the school!
What the hell.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 11:43 am


Calling Shenanigans
She's a b***h, the biggest b***h, the biggest b***h in the whole wide world. She's a b***h, the biggest b***h, the biggest b***h, boys and girls!
God, so today was our homecoming parade and I wad there for theatre. Well my friend's (the one I'm currently not talking to because he's a jerk) ex-girlfriend was there. I was with my other friend (the one who is now dating him -.-) and she was like "Amela is just standing there, that's awkward.."
Well apparently this chick though we were laughing at her and CALLED HER MOM TO b***h OUT MY FRIEND.
Seriously? You can't even call us out yourself? You have to have your mom to do it for you? And her mom threatened my friend saying that if she laughed at her again she would get in trouble with the school!
What the hell.
shes just really immature, if she has a problem with something she should ve come out with it/*hugs* cause that really doesnt sound like a good situation for you to be in =/
PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:51 pm


Kamilio
Calling Shenanigans
She's a b***h, the biggest b***h, the biggest b***h in the whole wide world. She's a b***h, the biggest b***h, the biggest b***h, boys and girls!
God, so today was our homecoming parade and I wad there for theatre. Well my friend's (the one I'm currently not talking to because he's a jerk) ex-girlfriend was there. I was with my other friend (the one who is now dating him -.-) and she was like "Amela is just standing there, that's awkward.."
Well apparently this chick though we were laughing at her and CALLED HER MOM TO b***h OUT MY FRIEND.
Seriously? You can't even call us out yourself? You have to have your mom to do it for you? And her mom threatened my friend saying that if she laughed at her again she would get in trouble with the school!
What the hell.
shes just really immature, if she has a problem with something she should ve come out with it/*hugs* cause that really doesnt sound like a good situation for you to be in =/

At least I wasn't the one that got yelled at. neutral But like, her mom threatened my friend. That's not cool. Are we allowed to complain about harassment? And I want to call this chick out at school, but I don't want to fight my friends battles (although this girl, and probably her mom, hate me too..).

Calling Shenanigans


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:51 pm


Calling Shenanigans
Kamilio
Calling Shenanigans
She's a b***h, the biggest b***h, the biggest b***h in the whole wide world. She's a b***h, the biggest b***h, the biggest b***h, boys and girls!
God, so today was our homecoming parade and I wad there for theatre. Well my friend's (the one I'm currently not talking to because he's a jerk) ex-girlfriend was there. I was with my other friend (the one who is now dating him -.-) and she was like "Amela is just standing there, that's awkward.."
Well apparently this chick though we were laughing at her and CALLED HER MOM TO b***h OUT MY FRIEND.
Seriously? You can't even call us out yourself? You have to have your mom to do it for you? And her mom threatened my friend saying that if she laughed at her again she would get in trouble with the school!
What the hell.
shes just really immature, if she has a problem with something she should ve come out with it/*hugs* cause that really doesnt sound like a good situation for you to be in =/

At least I wasn't the one that got yelled at. neutral But like, her mom threatened my friend. That's not cool. Are we allowed to complain about harassment? And I want to call this chick out at school, but I don't want to fight my friends battles (although this girl, and probably her mom, hate me too..).

Your friend could go to the school and explain the situation. Tell them what she said and that she seriously meant no harm by it. Then they deal with that girl overreacting and her mom.

My parents went to the school when I told them I seriously almost hit a girl when she said something extremely rude to me, she hasn't bothered me since.
PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:55 pm


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:24 pm


Shiori Miko
Calling Shenanigans
Kamilio
Calling Shenanigans
She's a b***h, the biggest b***h, the biggest b***h in the whole wide world. She's a b***h, the biggest b***h, the biggest b***h, boys and girls!
God, so today was our homecoming parade and I wad there for theatre. Well my friend's (the one I'm currently not talking to because he's a jerk) ex-girlfriend was there. I was with my other friend (the one who is now dating him -.-) and she was like "Amela is just standing there, that's awkward.."
Well apparently this chick though we were laughing at her and CALLED HER MOM TO b***h OUT MY FRIEND.
Seriously? You can't even call us out yourself? You have to have your mom to do it for you? And her mom threatened my friend saying that if she laughed at her again she would get in trouble with the school!
What the hell.
shes just really immature, if she has a problem with something she should ve come out with it/*hugs* cause that really doesnt sound like a good situation for you to be in =/

At least I wasn't the one that got yelled at. neutral But like, her mom threatened my friend. That's not cool. Are we allowed to complain about harassment? And I want to call this chick out at school, but I don't want to fight my friends battles (although this girl, and probably her mom, hate me too..).

Your friend could go to the school and explain the situation. Tell them what she said and that she seriously meant no harm by it. Then they deal with that girl overreacting and her mom.

My parents went to the school when I told them I seriously almost hit a girl when she said something extremely rude to me, she hasn't bothered me since.

I think for now she's going to let it go. If it happens again she'll take action. She's more bothered by the fact that she was victimized... by a parent.
PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:33 pm


Calling Shenanigans
Shiori Miko
Calling Shenanigans
Kamilio
Calling Shenanigans
She's a b***h, the biggest b***h, the biggest b***h in the whole wide world. She's a b***h, the biggest b***h, the biggest b***h, boys and girls!
God, so today was our homecoming parade and I wad there for theatre. Well my friend's (the one I'm currently not talking to because he's a jerk) ex-girlfriend was there. I was with my other friend (the one who is now dating him -.-) and she was like "Amela is just standing there, that's awkward.."
Well apparently this chick though we were laughing at her and CALLED HER MOM TO b***h OUT MY FRIEND.
Seriously? You can't even call us out yourself? You have to have your mom to do it for you? And her mom threatened my friend saying that if she laughed at her again she would get in trouble with the school!
What the hell.
shes just really immature, if she has a problem with something she should ve come out with it/*hugs* cause that really doesnt sound like a good situation for you to be in =/

At least I wasn't the one that got yelled at. neutral But like, her mom threatened my friend. That's not cool. Are we allowed to complain about harassment? And I want to call this chick out at school, but I don't want to fight my friends battles (although this girl, and probably her mom, hate me too..).

Your friend could go to the school and explain the situation. Tell them what she said and that she seriously meant no harm by it. Then they deal with that girl overreacting and her mom.

My parents went to the school when I told them I seriously almost hit a girl when she said something extremely rude to me, she hasn't bothered me since.

I think for now she's going to let it go. If it happens again she'll take action. She's more bothered by the fact that she was victimized... by a parent.


Didn't your friend try telling the b***h-mom that she wasn't laughing at her b***h-daughter?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:36 pm


Foam-Dome
Calling Shenanigans
Shiori Miko
Calling Shenanigans
Kamilio
Calling Shenanigans
She's a b***h, the biggest b***h, the biggest b***h in the whole wide world. She's a b***h, the biggest b***h, the biggest b***h, boys and girls!
God, so today was our homecoming parade and I wad there for theatre. Well my friend's (the one I'm currently not talking to because he's a jerk) ex-girlfriend was there. I was with my other friend (the one who is now dating him -.-) and she was like "Amela is just standing there, that's awkward.."
Well apparently this chick though we were laughing at her and CALLED HER MOM TO b***h OUT MY FRIEND.
Seriously? You can't even call us out yourself? You have to have your mom to do it for you? And her mom threatened my friend saying that if she laughed at her again she would get in trouble with the school!
What the hell.
shes just really immature, if she has a problem with something she should ve come out with it/*hugs* cause that really doesnt sound like a good situation for you to be in =/

At least I wasn't the one that got yelled at. neutral But like, her mom threatened my friend. That's not cool. Are we allowed to complain about harassment? And I want to call this chick out at school, but I don't want to fight my friends battles (although this girl, and probably her mom, hate me too..).

Your friend could go to the school and explain the situation. Tell them what she said and that she seriously meant no harm by it. Then they deal with that girl overreacting and her mom.

My parents went to the school when I told them I seriously almost hit a girl when she said something extremely rude to me, she hasn't bothered me since.

I think for now she's going to let it go. If it happens again she'll take action. She's more bothered by the fact that she was victimized... by a parent.


Didn't your friend try telling the b***h-mom that she wasn't laughing at her b***h-daughter?

I think she wanted to but a mixture of shock and the fact that the mom just drove off as soon as she was done yelling stopped her.
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