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Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 8:39 pm
Spooky Mittens Wanted to touch base with you about your positioning in your last post. I seems like you're under the assumption that Tirkas' sword is not in the way? And your advancing step, is this a short step or a lunge, or something in between? - Yep! She was striking at his arm, he caught her blade on his guard and then broke the bind to hit back at her jaw. Her target (his arm) was well in front of Tirkas's center of mass, whereas Akako's jaw is more or less aligned with her body and thus (relatively) further out of reach. Obviously Tirkas did reach it, but doing so after breaking the bind means that the guard/quillons of his sword would need to move past the blade of hers. Her edge was already past his guard, and her subsequent advance would pre-empt any move to draw the wooden sword back from its current extension. - Something in between. A full-on lunge could send her barreling right into him, so range-wise she's maintaining the spacing she needs to execute a strike while getting close enough to land a good hit on his head and/or shoulders (as well as close enough to make using his longer sword awkward). Momentum-wise, however, she's putting a decent amount of strength into it, so that if he tries to zoom backwards on his longer legs she can build on her momentum to keep him from gaining distance. Hope that all makes sense.
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 4:02 am
Drifting Pollen - Yep! She was striking at his arm, he caught her blade on his guard and then broke the bind to hit back at her jaw. Her target (his arm) was well in front of Tirkas's center of mass, whereas Akako's jaw is more or less aligned with her body and thus (relatively) further out of reach. Obviously Tirkas did reach it, Right. So his sword is against her neck since she turned her head. How is that out of the way? Quote: but doing so after breaking the bind means that the guard/quillons of his sword would need to move past the blade of hers. Her edge was already past his guard, I see, my question probably wasn't detailed enough. His sword, and therefore by logical extrapolation, his arm, is currently in your way. Quote: and her subsequent advance would pre-empt any move to draw the wooden sword back from its current extension. I don't need to draw it back. How is Akako going to create a path to Tirkas' head? You have to deal with his arm being in your path, you have no opening yet. Any attempt to raise arms above the shoulder will meet resistance at Tirkas' arm since they will have to come in contact. The move you've dictated is "like the first one" (paraphrasing) so I take that to mean a cut for the head in a straight line. You haven't got the positioning to do so either from chudan or jodan. You'd have to c**k your arms way off to the side and angle over the arm, or choose a more accessible target like his midsection or his legs, or better yet actually fence him and try to take control of his sword/arm position before striking - Like I just spent the last couple posts doing to you. The only way I see the move working as-written is if you believed Tirkas' sword to be following through like a baseball swing or something - but he can't actually do that. His tip should be somewhere below Akako's right ear. Quote: - Something in between. A full-on lunge could send her barreling right into him, so range-wise she's maintaining the spacing she needs to execute a strike while getting close enough to land a good hit on his head and/or shoulders (as well as close enough to make using his longer sword awkward). She's already close enough. There's only 4 feet of space between them at the point where Tirkas' hits her jaw. So the step is somewhere in between. How far? One foot? Six inches? Really she doesn't need any more space to reach any part of his body except maybe his toes. (Obstacles not withstanding) Quote: Momentum-wise, however, she's putting a decent amount of strength into it, so that if he tries to zoom backwards on his longer legs she can build on her momentum to keep him from gaining distance. Why would I want to give up all my hard work to trap you by stepping back? emotion_eyebrow Quote: Hope that all makes sense. Not really, no. It'd be one thing if you said "I believe Tirkas' arm to have struck past Akako's head and therefore the sword and his arm are on his right side now.". Is that the argument then? It's not really what I dictated in my post but at least it makes more sense to me if you believed that to be the case when you wrote your counter.
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 8:49 am
Clash Badman Lithfangel When's the tournament? I'm revving my engine. If certain people don’t show to their fights, I’ll see about working you in. blaugh Woohoo! I'm also trying to get my buddy Magnus in. I hear he's going to play a jelly monster or something. But not me. With my trusty jetpack and salvo, let's say I got an itchy trigger finger.
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 8:17 pm
Spooky Mittens His tip should be somewhere below Akako's right ear. See, I think this is really what it all comes down to. The good old left/right problem. I had his tip around ear-level as well, but to her left. If his tip is to her right, then you're entirely correct about his weapon and/or arm being in the way of her sword. Skimming back, the most likely basis of the misunderstanding seems to be: Quote: then he broke the bind and cut clean across to try strike her on the jaw A misconception as to which direction this attack was coming from in the first place. Although the fact that you didn't specify and I didn't ask for clarification probably means that it seemed obvious to both of us, which speaks to smaller discrepancies stretching back who knows how long. How about this: if you agree, I can go back and edit my most recent post, and change Akako's actions to reflect a situation wherein the tip of Tirkas's sword is just below her right ear (as you envision). That said, I'm not sure about there only being four feet of space between them (is his arm only eighteen inches long?) so it would help to have your logic behind that, as well as any other specifics you'd like to get worked out beforehand.
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 9:04 pm
Drifting Pollen Spooky Mittens His tip should be somewhere below Akako's right ear. See, I think this is really what it all comes down to. The good old left/right problem. I had his tip around ear-level as well, but to her left. If his tip is to her right, then you're entirely correct about his weapon and/or arm being in the way of her sword. Skimming back, the most likely basis of the misunderstanding seems to be: Quote: then he broke the bind and cut clean across to try strike her on the jaw A misconception as to which direction this attack was coming from in the first place. Although the fact that you didn't specify and I didn't ask for clarification probably means that it seemed obvious to both of us, which speaks to smaller discrepancies stretching back who knows how long. How about this: if you agree, I can go back and edit my most recent post, and change Akako's actions to reflect a situation wherein the tip of Tirkas's sword is just below her right ear (as you envision). That said, I'm not sure about there only being four feet of space between them (is his arm only eighteen inches long?) so it would help to have your logic behind that, as well as any other specifics you'd like to get worked out beforehand. That's fine by me. I'll do better with specifying positions of all limbs in the future. Tirkas is left handed. His outside line will always be his left. His sword is in his left hand. I'll reference these in the future. The four foot spacing is roughly correct if you accept the hit as written. His sword is 39" in total length. So we have -6 from the tip for what's reaching behind Akako's chin. That leaves us with 33" of sword. 7 of those inches are hilt, so we subtract those too, leaving 26" of "blade". His arm is about 23/24ish with the fist closed, add a slight bend to the elbow and we take.off.between and inch and an inch-and-a-half. Sum it all together and.from.shoulder to chin, it's about 48"
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Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 9:35 pm
Edit done! Hopefully it all lines up better this time, but if there are any lingering issues then let me know.
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 6:26 am
That was a very satisfying play.
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 5:10 pm
Lithfangel Woohoo! I'm also trying to get my buddy Magnus in. I hear he's going to play a jelly monster or something. But not me. With my trusty jetpack and salvo, let's say I got an itchy trigger finger. Well get him in here and on the ball! If Magnus doesn't show, I think I will pair you with Noire, although he might not be very active either, which means we might see some byes next round. For the sake of what I was originally going to do, which was run one fight at a time, I think I will grant some extensions for those who aren't posting yet, such as Chuzuka and Maria and Ranzou's opponent. Does anybody know where the heck they went?
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 5:56 pm
Head empty, no thoughts. I'm having difficulty visualizing your last play, what exactly is the angle/direction of the cut?
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 9:04 pm
Spooky Mittens Head empty, no thoughts. I'm having difficulty visualizing your last play, what exactly is the angle/direction of the cut? The angle is close to vertical. Direction-wise, the tip is coming from the space below/behind her right shoulder and slashing in a semicircular arc. So it comes up, reaches its highest point midway between Akako and Tirkas, and then continues down onto the latter all without stopping. If it helps, I can break the play down from the start: - Raises her arms, maintaining the bind while angling her blade so that the point starts to fall to the right. Essentially, she pushes their crosses swords upwards, while moving her own towards the horizontal to prevent a cut downwards onto her head or a thrust into her face. While this happens, she brings her left foot forwards to initiate a step to the left. - When her left foot touches the ground, she lets the point of her blade drop below the horizontal, while shifting her grip to bring that point closer to her body. At this stage, Akako's sword is pointed downwards and to the right at an angle. By shifting her grip, she swings it back so that it's pointing downwards/backwards with the tip now behind and below her right shoulder. Her sword is now pointed away from Tirkas, and primed for a swing. - Her right foot slides backwards, completing her step to the left. At this stage, her left foot is leading, and she is fully leftward of her previous position, but has not closed the distance. Continuing with the motion of her sword, she now cuts up, over, and forwards, striking to the inside of Tirkas's guard. Long story short, she moves the bind upwards and then drops her point to try and slip her sword beneath Tirkas's, from the outside of his guard to the inside. As soon as her point passes beneath his blade, she cuts up and past it towards his head.
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 10:03 pm
Drifting Pollen The angle is close to vertical. Direction-wise, the tip is coming from the space below/behind her right shoulder and slashing in a semicircular arc. So it comes up, reaches its highest point midway between Akako and Tirkas, and then continues down onto the latter all without stopping. If it helps, I can break the play down -. Just needed to know the angle really, it was very much not clear otherwise. You'd have been better off with a horizontal cut since you're using all of the correct biomechanics for one and you could come in from Tirkas' left where he isn't guarding. The vertical cut won't work.
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 3:00 am
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 2:30 pm
Lithfangel Clash Badman Lithfangel When's the tournament? I'm revving my engine. If certain people don’t show to their fights, I’ll see about working you in. blaugh Woohoo! I'm also trying to get my buddy Magnus in. I hear he's going to play a jelly monster or something. But not me. With my trusty jetpack and salvo, let's say I got an itchy trigger finger. You’re going to be battling Chuzuka now because Maria Ravenwood dropped out. Do you have the time for that?
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 4:54 pm
Clash Badman You’re going to be battling Chuzuka now because Maria Ravenwood dropped out. Do you have the time for that? Chuzuka? I've always wanted to fight Chuzuka. Deep in the darkest depths of my heart. Time and ample.
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