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 Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:37 am
Ever notice how Kozi changes his appearance with every release? Ever feel as though his looks tend to match the concepts behind his releases? Well, this is the thread to discuss just those subjects! Even if you do not think there is any relation you could post here and give your opinion as to why the two (his image and musical concepts) are not related. So long as the discussion stays on how (or how not) his image relates to the concepts or feel in Kozi's music then it wil be on topic.
NOTE: Images ARE allowed to be put in posts within this thread if they serve the purpose of helping your discussion and clarifying your point.
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:27 pm
 This one struck me the most. Kami-sama, the butterfly of Malice Mizer. The album cover definately shows that Kozi had a close connection with Kami, expressing his feelings with butterflies. Not only the butterflies- but looking down shows that he is feeling sorrow. I've been wondering about the shadow behind him though- that could have a connection that I've missed over, perhaps?
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cAsTraTeD pUmPkIn Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:47 pm
Okay, I don't know that much about Memento or Kami--But my thought is maybe it has something to with the idea of Kami's soul splitting from his body? The shadow could possibly represent that, looking as a shadow normally would yet at the same time pulling away from the body. If you think about it the shadow is sort of like the essence of you in a way. It's not really apart of you--yet it is. I personally always thought the shadow was a sort of representative of the soul itself.
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:51 am
I think Pumpkin is really onto something with her views on what the shadow could represent. Within the context of what it is that the album is for I think her thoughts on what the shadow could be make complete sense.
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:12 am
Ah, yes. That brings enlightenment, thank you. ^^;
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:23 pm
I'm actually now more impressed with this album's packaging than Khaos/Kinema. I hadn't really noticed that the shadow might also be part of the symbolism before this conversation.
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 2:32 pm
Kozi is a creative man. Though, I'm still impressed with Khaos/Kinema a bit more.
Another thought I had was about the coloring--The yellow and the shadow combined can kind of create the effect of "into the light". You know how people always say when they die (or almost die--there have been accounts of this) they think they see a sort of light. So I thought also maybe the yellow could represent the "light" and the casting of the shadow could also play a roll in that. To me everything sees to all be sort of connected.
3nodding
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 2:34 pm
The shadow looks like the the costume Kozi wears from Au Revoir.
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 2:35 pm
And in the picture the "Kami" seems to be facing the light which might add to the idea of "into the light".
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 2:35 pm
cAsTraTeD pUmPkIn And in the picture the "Kami" seems to be facing the light which might add to the idea of "into the light".
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cAsTraTeD pUmPkIn Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 2:44 pm
cAsTraTeD pUmPkIn Kozi is a creative man. Though, I'm still impressed with Khaos/Kinema a bit more.
Another thought I had was about the coloring--The yellow and the shadow combined can kind of create the effect of "into the light". You know how people always say when they die (or almost die--there have been accounts of this) they think they see a sort of light. So I thought also maybe the yellow could represent the "light" and the casting of the shadow could also play a roll in that. To me everything sees to all be sort of connected. 3nodding That would also connect well with your "shadow = soul seperating from the body" theory since it is the shadow falling back from the body who is standing toward the light source.
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 2:54 pm
...And some day in the future we send an e-mail to Kozi about this and find out he has no idea what we're saying.
Us: "So the shadow represents the soul splitting away from the body and the butteflies are Kami?"
Kozi: "hkxzhnhlhvjhvjWTF are you talking about? I just thought the butterflies were pretty and the shadow made it look cool. Get out of here you stupid fans."
gonk heart
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cAsTraTeD pUmPkIn Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 3:04 pm
That would be crushing...though at least he made music that made us think so much I guess. gonk heart
But really...crushing.
edit: Though it would be nice to find out that WE were the brilliant ones all along instead of him. ninja
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 3:15 pm
LOL
Well if anything, I think he would be at least a little impressed that we would put so much thought into it.
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cAsTraTeD pUmPkIn Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 6:02 pm
ShinobiRedScarf edit: Though it would be nice to find out that WE were the brilliant ones all along instead of him. ninja
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