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 Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:15 am
ANNOUNCEMENT ARCHIVE THREADHere is where all announcements will be kept. Any questions or changes that happened immediately after the announcement will be answered and added to the bottom of the announcement in red.
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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 2:00 am
ANNOUNCEMENTOctober 24, 2013
Hm, where do I start... first off I would like to start off that I apologize that Evan and I have not been part of this role-play for the past few days. We had a lot going on. With that being said, I would also like to state that I will NOT ever do this big of update... like... ever. It took me FOREVER. Granted near the end, I did have a few of you helping me out so I thank you Evan, Cori, Sharai and Iajato. Nonetheless there may still be small changes but nothing like what just took place. I hope all in all that you all actually do enjoy these changes and updates... or if anything learn to like them. I done all this because I believed I would be benefiting everyone by bringing in more people and just making things more organized. I know there is more links but there is reasons by behind all this madness.
Ahem, I guess I can start with the IC and tell you what is all new there.
~ Well, you haven't already figured it out... yes, there is a guild. There are many things to experience in here. But I will go into detail in that later. (NOTE: We are NOT turning into a guild. The guild is ONLY for organizational purposes.)
~ There is now a live tiny chat made that any of you can get on at any moment so we can to one another on real time. I know several of you have already experienced it but if you have't then by all means check it out.
RULES... there has been several of them added. I suggest everyone check them out. However, I will go over a few with you that should be explained.
Once she accepts you she tell you where to place your profile. The reason why we place all profiles the guild thread is very simple. Here you will be allowed to change your profile as time passes. When it comes to changing your profile you MUST run it past Delirious first. If you are caught changing up BIG details in your profile without permission then you will be kicked. Any small details you make to the profile, you are allowed to do so without permission, but make sure to post it on the "Changed Details" post in the corresponding skeleton sub-forum.
So yes, I did switch all the profiles over to guild BECAUSE as time passes I'm almost positive we are going to want to change up our characters profile, am I right? In time we will grow, get new theme songs, pictures... etc. So instead of bothering anyone with fixing it or changing it you can go ahead and change it yourself. ...however, as the rules say, it has to do with your powers, biography, and anything that is big and means a lot RUN IT BY ME FIRST. As far as simple things like small changes, songs, blah blah... then you don't have to run it past me. However, you should totally post it on the "Changed Details" post in the corresponding skeleton sub-forum.
When it comes to fights, may it be a tournament in the combat area or a spontaneous fight, to make it a fair you can go to our Event Generator, read the rules and role the dice, or talk it among yourselves to agree upon which team or character will win.
This is actually a pretty cool deal that is all explained here. :3
You are only allowed to have two main characters at the most, but you are allowed to have side characters.
Yes, as of well.. now. We only want you all to have at most two main characters so it will give others the chance to join as well. Nonetheless, you can still have side characters even with having two main...just as long as they don't play a big role. (This is also subject to change later on... maybe. *shrugs*)
About different races and powers; as of October 22, 2013 we decided that we are only going to allow one instance for each power and two of each race in this role-play. (NOTE: This does not include the ones that have already joined before this date.) Any power you see on this list is no longer available. However, anything else is so go ahead and throw it at me. As long as it's not overpowering, I'll probably let you have it!
So yeah as the rules say, we are only going to allow one instance of power and two of each race from this point on. Here is a list of already taken powers and if there is two of you that is the same race then you all should get together and come up with agreements on how things are between your race so we can post it there as well. Like.. I believe there are two werewolves. smile I am going to need you to come to agreements with your species and fill out the profile and then PM with it so I can post it. ^_^
For any supernatural creatures and humans, you can only have two of any other add-on powers you may want. One as a primary and the other as an optional secondary. The powers you are given by race is not affected by this rule.
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Other than that... as far as the IC goes I changed up the electives and sports to organize it better. ^_^
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OKAY... so this actually pretty cool in my opinion but we now have some new things in the code of conduct called graduation and combat arena! They are all self-explanatory so just check them out when you can!
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Hmm, I also added some new photos to the MISC PHOTOS.
...they be so purdy! biggrin
Let's see.. I added... library, classroom, auditorium and ballroom!
ENJOY!
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I believe that is all that is really new with the IC thread. Now, I will talk to you about what is new within the guild!
Staff Profiles and Student Profiles are all placed there! Make sure you copy your profile to your characters thread. Here is the link to the old profiles for staff and students.
We have a forum for all the clubs and sports where you can go there to talk about it or whatever floats your boat. Here is the link... club and sports.
If you are going to be gone for long periods of time... please let everyone know by posting here.
Relationships know have their own thread here. If you want anything added contact me, Evan, or one of the other crew members.
Has something funny happened that you don't want to forget or just want to bring it to everyone's attention? If so, then post it here.
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Well, I do believe I covered up all the big stuff. There is a few other threads in the guild that you can always check them out whenever you would like. ^_^
REMEMBER to post your new profiles!!!!
... and I'm sorry I have not been able to post again. Evan and I will be reading all the new replies and hopefully we will be replying tomorrow and have the time skip to happen. ^_^
Any questions, concerns, comments?
Please quote me here, send me a PM, or just ask it here.
You guys have a nice night/day!
~ Delirious
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:02 am
ANNOUNCEMENTOctober 24, 2013
So we have a couple new things going on that I want to do a quick overview with you.
First, the powers...
So, I seemed to have confused everyone with the wording of how the powers were supposed to be. I changed all that up. It now reads:
About different races and powers; as of October 22, 2013 we decided that we are only going to allow the OPTION of ONE power to each race. The powers you are given by your race is not affected by this rule... unless your race itself is powerful then there is no need for the extra power. (All supernatural races will vary.) However, as a human you are allowed the option of TWO powers. One being your major ability and then a optional minor ability that MUST relate to the major one. (NOTE: This does not include the ones that have already joined before this date. Unless of course you want to change it to be fair.) Any power you see on this list is no longer available. However, anything else is so go ahead and throw it at me. As long as it's not overpowering, I'll probably let you have it!
I hope that all of you on this same level. I'm pretty sure you are. However, if you are not then you don't have to but I would really like for you to please contact me and change it accordingly.
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The NPC's are now posted HERE. Feel free to check them out.
ALSO... if you have already made a NPC... I need everyone of you to go back and make a reserve. I decided that I should post it on the front page. The layout for a reserve is HERE.
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I changed up the electives and sports just a bit.
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We added a Combat Arena! It's going to be a big and awesome thing! I hope you guys will enjoy this. The information on it is in the Misc. Photos on the first page. Make sure you read the spoiler.
We also changed up the map just a bit. We added the beach, ballroom building and combat area. So feel free to check that out.
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Last thing I have for you all is the new Banner thread in the guild! HERE is a link to it! Feel free to make your own or post on of them into your signature to hopes that we will grow!
You guys have a nice night!
~ Delirious
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:33 pm
ANNOUNCEMENTOctober 28, 2013
Remember how I said something about NPC reserves? Yeah, forget about it. Instead, I just posted the link to all of them in the Staff post.
If you haven't already, please post your character's skeleton in the corresponding thread in the guild here for staff and here for student.
Also, we added another part to the profile skeleton: weakness. We want you to add that in there. The profile skeleton on the first page has been edited accordingly to the new addition. here. It is right below the "However, these can stay far away;" part in the skeleton.
We now have crew members! So please, met them and allow me to introduce their job.
Kurisumasu. She can help with any coding errors you'll have in your profiles. If she is busy then you can message me or Delirious.
Sharai_the_Demonic_one. You have a relationship change? She will add, remove, or alter it accordingly here. So message her if you have a relationship you need to be added, removed, or altered.
Corianna Lynn. She arranges clubs and sports accordingly. here.
One last thing, please join the role-play guild. It will be more sufficient to send announcements that way.
Thank you,
~ Delirious
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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:46 pm
ANNOUNCEMENTNovember 7, 2013
Hello deary role-players. I am glad to have you all. Some of you guys have been with us for a long time even with how slow pace it has been lately (as in it staying the same day), and I thank you all for your patients and kindness.
As of now, I would like to mention this is the new way we will send the announcements, but we will copy these announcements after said and done and place them here for your own viewing later.
As you may have noticed, the role-play layout has been changed again. We didn't like the "non-school" feeling it gave. Hope you all enjoy the rather simple layout instead.
We will also mention all the new students/teachers and all the left/killed students/teachers here too in the new announcements, and now I've mentioned it: SteveTheMime as Koritaro Shizusuke and Bloody Angelic Devil as Idraeli Charles Hoken has both left the role-play.
On another note, if you haven't I would like you all to fix your profiles in the "Worst of all" part that I have added to the profiles who didn't have it which include: Rumi Seville, Kevin Michaels, Lillinette Ackman, Nix Maudire, Mirari Christopher, Laris Ionos, Valadoria Amara, Arabella Meister, and Alice Ekman.
If you haven't posted your profiles in the guild, please do so. (Sebastian Voros, Deja Bealorus, Aldra Gough, and Ethika Hellgate.)
Thank you for your time and have a nice day.
~ Evan
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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:50 pm
ANNOUNCEMENTNovember 12, 2013
First off, I'll just like to start by saying-- use your imagination.
...and there is such things as stupid questions. Please do us a favor and don't bother us with them.
Now that's outta the way, Welcome Dirge Clades, Impermissus Saggitus, and Aleksandr Valentine to the Lubchenko Academy!!
The following students and teachers still need to add their profile or weaknesses to their corresponding name thread on the role-play: Impermissus Saggitus, Dirge Clades, Sebastian Voros, Deja Bealorus, Rumi Seville, Kevin Micheals, Lillinette Ackman, Nix Maudire, Mirari Christopher, Laris Ionos, Arabella Meister
We edited the code of conduct (uniforms) - You don't have to wear your coats if you don't want to (everyone also got their uniforms outside their dorm room [rp] today). Check it out for more detail. Teacher/Staff combat was also changed.
Combat and classroom pictures are added and the indoor pool was changed. The blood bank is in the school building now. We added rock climbing, arcade and paintball field to activity center. A bus now goes by every hour or so to take people to and from town.
Remember!! We have an absence, shipped, and remember when thread! You are free to post there whenever you want. Also don't forget to tell Sharai or me about your relationship changes.
The announcements with added links and info is posted here for your own use. Use it.
Thank you. ~Evan
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MORE INFO:
Any large plot twists you have that's going to effect the whole school, run it by us first before you even began.
At this moment, we're not taking in any more Juniors.
I edited the story in the nutshell (still not completed to the most recent though)
Any extra info will be placed under a line from the announcement from now on.
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Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:52 pm
ANNOUNCEMENTNovember 19, 2013
Okay, so since I haven't really had the time I have not brought any attention to the little or big things that I have been doing until now. So without any further ado... here is what is new:
I have edited the combat arena a LOT. So please READ IT ALL so you understand how it works. I put a lot of thought into it.
The time is now to get your votes in for the clubs/sports will be tallied up and announced in a week from now - 11/26/13. Sharai has made ballots under the respected sport. Copy and past it in a PM with the sport as the title and send it to (Sharai_the_Demonic_one)! Sharai has also made ballots under the respected club and they are also up for votes. However, you can make these votes within the thread itself. So don't wait and HURRY AND GET YOUR VOTES IN NOW. mrgreen
On another note, we had added a new club which is Technology Club. We also added a elective which is wood-shop.
I have also posted a club and sport schedule. IF anyone has any better ideas for the club schedules then I am all ears.. er... eyes. I personally would like for their to be more time for things like music club... but not sure how to do it. Soo... if you figure something out or have a idea then make it up for me and send it to me in a PM, please.
We are not doing NPC students. However, if (talked with your other sport mates) and you all want a NPC captain we can easily add a name and link a photo in the description.
Also, another note with NPC staff... if you see a spot that is taken by a NPC and would like to actually take their spot for your character then you can. The NPC's are just fillers for the time being anyways.
Estelle profile has been changed. Check it out if you would like. Evan has made her more fit to her role. :3
THIS IS STRICTLY FOR FUN.
You DO NOT have to do this.
This is for those of us would have always wanted to dig really deep into their character but never had the chance. Well guess what? Now you have that chance! For those of you who hate the idea that is completely fine.... just don't do it. It's as simple as that. However, for those that would like to do this then copy and paste the extra profile and post it under the mandatory profile and enjoy filling it out! The profile can be found on the main page under the reserve and profile!
Nonetheless, there is a relationship part at the end of the new profile! If you would like you may just make a new post under your profile in their thread so you can add and take away relationships as you please. Just a idea... again... you DO NOT have to do that.
Also, I'm not sure if you all noticed or not but the blood bank has been moved to in the school... a room near the nurses office, actually. We also added a couple new things that the activity center has like the rock climbing, arcade, and a field beside the activity center that is locked up unless the center is open that is made for paint-balling. (If anyone has anything that would like to add then PM me about it and I will consider it.)
We now have two fan art pages in the guild! Check those out and feel free to post whatever! :3 They are here and here!
Corianna has been MIA for a little while and has a lot going on so we don't want to cause her any stress. So now the crew members jobs has been switched up a bit to:
Kurisumasu
She can help with any coding errors you'll have in your profiles and will change up relationships.
Sharai_the_Demonic_one
She arranges clubs and sports accordingly. She also takes control of all the voting and things like that. :3
We have a skype!
...and we don't ever get on Tiny Chat anymore. So yeah, if you would like to be added just send Delirious or Evan a little pm with your Skype name. mrgreen
Another note, if you see something wrong with the role-play and would like to address with it, that's fine! We are open to suggestions... however, do us a favor and just send us a PM with it and don't broadcast it. XD We will take it all into consideration! :3
I also would like to welcome the new people!
Aphotic Wonderland as Akihito Miketsukami
and I would like to welcome back Bloody_Angelic_Devil as his new character Malazhar Mortem!
Also, I believe we said this several times but you guys MUST add a weakness to your profile. These people are the ones that have NOT done this yet:
Rumi Seville
Mirari Christopher
Lillinette Ackman
I believe that covers it all!
You guys have a nice day and thank you for your time!
~ Delirious
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Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:32 pm
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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:46 am
ANNOUNCEMENTDecember 12, 2013
Do NOT scan over these announcements. Read them! Like the rules, we don't say these things for our own health. Thank you.
So here is the thing... We know that forcing the students to sit for so long in a room, only being able to interact with each other for however long the class decides to run, it can get tiresome quickly. I also know that we agreed with a time laps for each school day. However, due to it being around the seasonal time sometimes they get busy with not being to reply due to real life situations. We also understand the fact that we need to focus more on events and just having everyone interact with each other because there is many students that are just being left out. For example... there is a LOT of things the campus has to offer its students and its staff... yet nothing has been messed with.
Here what's going down: (Classes can come about once in a while, because it is a school, it has to focus on it at least one time or another. However, we shouldn't be playing out every class of every day. A class here and a class there is a great idea, because it keeps the RP true to its roots, while allowing us to focus on other things, too.)
Therefore, we won't be having all the classes all the time and leave more interaction time for other things. Events, clubs, sports, town, activity center, etc. So, with that being said, am all ears on your opinions.
This is the last week to get your voting in for the clubs and sports. So if you haven't already VOTE VOTE VOTE! Sharai has made ballots under the respected sport. Copy and past it in a PM with the sport as the title and send it to (Sharai_the_Demonic_one)! If no one gets picked in the classes then me and Delirious will randomly decide on who gets the president and so on. Note: You have to have that club, sport, or elective in order to vote. Please don't try to cheat the system.
We plan on making a time-skip by either tonight or tomorrow. Twenty-two (22) Days will pass. In case you can't do the math, or don't want to, that means it's going to be October 31st and you know what that means, right? Halloween, yes! And you know what's going to happen on this Halloween night? A dancing party! How exciting, right? But before that, we'll be giving the role-play a quite a few hours before the party. With that being said, we'll be time skipping to mid-day. And since so many days are going to time-skipped relationships had to occur, right? Of course they did! So talk among yourselves and when all it settled out, pm me the new relationship statues your character now owns with the other characters.
We have a skype! If you'd like to join our group please message me or Delirious Illusion with your skype name and we will add you to our very active OOC group.
Do note if you are planning on making another student character any time, we're no longer accepting Juniors or males. With that being said, we are also increasing the max characters by three, but in order to have a third character you have to have been here a long time, very active, and loyal to the role-play. Please run it by us first before making your third character. Thank you.
I'd like to welcome Kieran Law by Bebop Rocksteady and Tethysay’anento by BonnieWeeLassie to the Lubchenko Academy!
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Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:42 am
ANNOUNCEMENTJanuary 10, 2014
Hello, I too would like to wish you guys a Happy Holidays and a Happy New Years even though it's super late! I know the role-play itself has been kinda slow because of the holidays and everyone traveling and being busy but we figured now would be a good time as ever to get things fired back up and ready again. We know there is a lot of interaction going on between characters right now so not everyone wants to skip to the party just yet. With this being said we are going to give it about a week in real life until we start the party. This will give us plenty of time of getting back in the groove of things!
If you haven't already, please reply back to Evan to the relationships. We want to know all the character developments after the time skip!
I should also mention (since there has been several people that has said say something about this)... whenever you quote someone in a spoiler, they don't get the notification.
Another note, please check the guild for the clubs and if their is any changes that need to be made please contact: (Sharai_the_Demonic_one).
Alas, one last note... if some of you have ever thought this to yourself;
"Why is this role-play so quiet?"
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"No one ever talks in the OOC."
or
"I think everyone might be dead here."
I can assure you none of this is true. In fact, we are a VERY talkative group. However, we don't post in the actually thread OOC often. Quite the number of us is actually on Skype were we like to chat real time. If any of you would like to join us then by all means send me your account name via PM or quote me in the OOC and I will give you a little add! biggrin We would love for you all to join the family!
I believe that covers it all!
As always, you guys have a nice day and thank you for your time!
~ Delirious
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Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:20 pm
ANNOUNCEMENTFebruary 5, 2014
Hello my ladies and gents!
It’s Delirious here to give you all a few friendly reminders.
First, we are a family role-play! We want everyone to get along to the best they can that’s why we like to say to keep the drama to a minimum out of character. Seriously, the people around you in this role-play are your friends. We are all here to enjoy the same thing – the Lubchenko Academy and we want us all to get along! So please IF you do have a problem with anyone else – well, the key to any relationship is communication. Take it to PM and talk to them and work things out. If the issue is not settled by doing so then by all means bring it to Evan’s or my attention and we will do our best to diffuse the situation. On the other hand, feel free to be as much dramatized as you please in character. Don't be afraid to challenge other characters! If someone’s character says something against or injures your characters, don’t take it personally. It's all in good fun!
With that being said, if you haven’t noticed we time skipped to the Halloween dance that is located in the ballroom! Be ready for some dancing and a costume contest held by the headmistress and were everyone is the judge! (Estelle’s post or another announcement will be made with how this will work later on.) The winner will be announced at midnight – and at that moment, a surprising event will happen! Please come and join us now! Let’s keep things active!
I hope to see you all soon in the role-play!
~ Delirious
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Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:28 pm
ANNOUNCEMENTFebruary 27, 2014
First of all, I'd like to apologize for the lack of announcements. I, Evanescent Shadow, has been too busy with school, work, and the roomate who just recently moved in-- not to mention all the other small (but magnificent) problems and issues that has occurred between it all.
Now on to the role-play details~!
We would like to welcome Maren Ethine and Jonathon Jack Faust by street riot, Winters Farraday by corianna lynn, Aquarius Rayn by ava_457, Grizchev Novokoff by Homer Pilkin, and Raven Wilde by Bebop Rocksteady.
We would also like to mention Bloody_Angelic_Devil as Malazhar Mortem and iajato as Evangeline Newsom have left the role-play along with other characters who never posted to the role-playing including, but not limited too, Teeth, Akihito, and Shinji.
ATTENTION: We are putting the role-play on a temporary hiatus starting Monday (March 3rd, 2014) and currently there is no set time as when we will make the role-play active again, however the skype is still open. We can talk as friends about this role-play, other role-plays, or whatever you wish. We hope you will stay or come back when the role-play opens again. We dearly and genuinely care about you all and this role-play.
If you have any idea on how we can start back on the role-play or anything you would like changed when it comes out of hiatus, please post it HERE.
Until monday comes we will be sending out annoucements daily, around 11 P.M. CST time, about changes made, people leaving or going, and anything else of the sort that we feel is important to mention. This was something I had originally had planned on doing but I never had time to do this so I never got around to doing it. I apologize once again. We appreciate your patients and your understanding.
Remember, if there is any issues you are having with another person please work it out on a one-on-one basis. If it's still not solved, bring it to our, Evanescent Shadow or Delirious Illusion, attention and we will solve the problem.
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:54 am
ANNOUNCEMENTMarch 3, 2014
I will like to apologize for telling you all we were going on an hiatus. The role-play is back on and we're still accepting. However I, Evanescent Shadow, is taking a break from a few of my characters in the role-play just until I catch up on my classes. Do not be alarmed, the role-play is still going on and I will still be active.
Also, I have no idea why I said I would send out announcements everyday. Not everyday there is something exciting to talk about for the role-play... so I'll be sending announcements every day something important comes up-- not every day. Sorry for telling you all such a lie.
I would like to welcome Amir Sirhan by Bebop Rocksteady to the role-play.
There will be a halloween contest taking place still even though Estelle is going to go on a "vacation" away from the school campus. Whenever your character votes in character, Post here too.
Since Estelle will be gone for an undetermined amount of time, Illasun Sable will be the assistant headmistress until she returns. Meaning if speeches need to be said or anything of the sort, she will do it. An unknown N.P.C. who will be known as the secretary will take over headmaster work that is not talked about in character. If that is at all confusing, just ignore I said anything and focus on Illasun being the temporary headmistress. However, I am still the owner of the role-play and therefore still in charge.
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:36 pm
ANNOUNCEMENTApril 8, 2014
Hey guys and a chickiedees! Guess what today is! The April the eighth, and you know what that means, right? Yup, that means clean-up day. Good thing for me and the active peeps, and maybe not so good for the inactive peeps... unless they planned on quitting anyways. Yes, I am hinting around at kicking people. As you all may have already known, I sent out a PM to all the inactive people. If you received a PM, then you know who you are. The people who have replied back to me, rather they've posted before this date or not, and have said they want to stay I will not be deleting. For everyone else who has received the PM, looked at it or not, and didn't reply I will be kicking. I'm afraid to say the left list today will be rather large... or larger then the normal. Well, let's get to it then, I guess.
Here's the list of characters/users who have left and/or quit: Trever Valens, Mikaela Valens, Laris Ionos, Nix Maruelle, Sebastian Voros, Alice Ekman, Lucifer Caliber, Valadoria Amara, Willow Heart, Ethika Hellgate, and Kevin Michales
Here are a few people who will currently be MIA: Estelle, Nichole, Finn, Impermissus, and Dirge
The winners for for Halloween Contest is Renee as the first winner and Jack and Nix tying as second and third.
Well that's all for this thread, now something a bit more spark to it. We're having a timeskip to Thanksgiving very soon to an hour before a big thanksgiving dinner. There will be no class on this day. But wait! That's not all, we're also going to be having a new thread just to make it look fresh for new comers. You can find the new thread at this link: http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/university-school-roleplay/lubchenko-academy-home-of-the-supernatural-accepting/t.91419241/ However, you must wait for Kurisumasu to post first as she is the new temporary headmistress until Estelle returns.
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:01 am
ANNOUNCEMENTApril 26, 2014
Hello Ladies and Gents, I would just like to apologize for the slow thread we are currently having. I have been trying to stay busy with a class I have online and I understand it's getting closer to the end of the school year and that means a lot of tests and big things are happening for everyone. I understand if you will be MIA for a while, as for I will be too. However, this role-play is still active, as far as I am aware, and will continue to be active even with my absence (even if it's slow). So without farther ado, allow me to welcome some people to the role-play:
JonesyNeko as Ethika Hellgate and Yang Long, LegitimateRisk as Issac Rockford, Norse Princess as Neria, Fading like a D R E A M as Roquelle Thorpe, and Kurisumasu as Hal Maverek.
We also have a in character chat room in our guild. That can be found HERE.
Do not fear that just because the role-play is slow now that it will stay slow forever. I'm most positive as soon school and work slows down for everyone, including myself, the role-play will pick back up once more and be just as busy, if not busier, then ever before!
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