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 Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:27 pm
I'm creating a thread for anyone here to vent and let out frustrations. One of the common misconceptions about Christianity I've been hearing recently is that "being a Christian means you can't feel *such and such* emotion". We are human beings with a wide range of emotions and it's okay to feel. While it's not always in our best interest to act on them in certain ways we can at least express them and figure out ways to act on them in healthy ways.
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:57 pm
I've been feeling very sad lately. It seems silly but I have some financial debt hanging over my head and I can't pay it off or at least right now. I am doing everything that I can but yet I don't feel like I'm doing everything that I can. The only thing more that I could do would be to find a way to work 16 hours a day or give up my weekends but then my fiancee would be alone and she wouldn't feel comfortable with me doing that. This is a problem because well I feel like I have no right to feel happy because there's this part of me that keeps on telling me "I'm not doing all that I can". I know this part is lying but it won't go away. It keeps making me feel guilty about enjoying anything or spending on anything other than bills. The only thing that's been keeping it at bay has been my writing but lately I haven't had time to write. I don't know I find myself wanting to just curl up in bed and hide away where no one can see me.
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 5:30 pm
rmcdra I'm creating a thread for anyone here to vent and let out frustrations. One of the common misconceptions about Christianity I've been hearing recently is that "being a Christian means you can't feel *such and such* emotion". We are human beings with a wide range of emotions and it's okay to feel. While it's not always in our best interest to act on them in certain ways we can at least express them and figure out ways to act on them in healthy ways. Is that the misconception you've been seeing? I've been seeing "all are young-earth creationists who don't agree with homosexuality or abortion and thinks that they are perfect little angels who can't do wrong and can pass judgment on everybody else."
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 5:46 pm
rmcdra I've been feeling very sad lately. It seems silly but I have some financial debt hanging over my head and I can't pay it off or at least right now. I am doing everything that I can but yet I don't feel like I'm doing everything that I can. The only thing more that I could do would be to find a way to work 16 hours a day or give up my weekends but then my fiancee would be alone and she wouldn't feel comfortable with me doing that. This is a problem because well I feel like I have no right to feel happy because there's this part of me that keeps on telling me "I'm not doing all that I can". I know this part is lying but it won't go away. It keeps making me feel guilty about enjoying anything or spending on anything other than bills. The only thing that's been keeping it at bay has been my writing but lately I haven't had time to write. I don't know I find myself wanting to just curl up in bed and hide away where no one can see me. This aint gonna cheer you up, but a lot of Americans are at this point. Lots of debt, and doubt that they are actually doing enough. Then there are the mother ******** who keep putting more on the shoulders and less responsibility on theirs. Not to mention the worthless ******** who continue to take advantage of systems that they probably shouldnt be in, and not even vote or read the paper to know that these same advantages that they enjoy could be fleeting. but heven help anyone who tells them that they should stop their facebook games for ten minutes and actually pay attention to the news. I do hope yer life gets less depressing, cause frankly, you are one of the few people i tolerate. wink
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 5:50 pm
rmcdra I'm creating a thread for anyone here to vent and let out frustrations. One of the common misconceptions about Christianity I've been hearing recently is that "being a Christian means you can't feel *such and such* emotion". We are human beings with a wide range of emotions and it's okay to feel. While it's not always in our best interest to act on them in certain ways we can at least express them and figure out ways to act on them in healthy ways. Hey, Ive been doing my part so much so that I am the king of all you little people. I dont know how much more logical I can make arguments against the little fallacy makers. I suppose i could try an approach ive never done before, but there has to be something in it for me. if nothing else, laugh that some of these people actually think that they beat me at something when their mental masturbation makes it seem like the body snatchers movie. "OMG, let me suck Dawkins like the Messiah we know him to be." Its one thing to be an areligious atheist, but to be an anti-religious, anti-theist angstheist is just so ******** sad. Well reasoned logic does not compute. Logic like using an invention of a Catholic priests to prove that science has disproven all deities let alone a creation deity to be stupid doesnt seem to make a dent.
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:07 pm
The New Wineskin rmcdra I'm creating a thread for anyone here to vent and let out frustrations. One of the common misconceptions about Christianity I've been hearing recently is that "being a Christian means you can't feel *such and such* emotion". We are human beings with a wide range of emotions and it's okay to feel. While it's not always in our best interest to act on them in certain ways we can at least express them and figure out ways to act on them in healthy ways. Is that the misconception you've been seeing? I've been seeing "all are young-earth creationists who don't agree with homosexuality or abortion and thinks that they are perfect little angels who can't do wrong and can pass judgment on everybody else." The one I'm mentioning I've been seeing in pagan circles lately.
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:11 pm
deadmanjay rmcdra I've been feeling very sad lately. It seems silly but I have some financial debt hanging over my head and I can't pay it off or at least right now. I am doing everything that I can but yet I don't feel like I'm doing everything that I can. The only thing more that I could do would be to find a way to work 16 hours a day or give up my weekends but then my fiancee would be alone and she wouldn't feel comfortable with me doing that. This is a problem because well I feel like I have no right to feel happy because there's this part of me that keeps on telling me "I'm not doing all that I can". I know this part is lying but it won't go away. It keeps making me feel guilty about enjoying anything or spending on anything other than bills. The only thing that's been keeping it at bay has been my writing but lately I haven't had time to write. I don't know I find myself wanting to just curl up in bed and hide away where no one can see me. This aint gonna cheer you up, but a lot of Americans are at this point. Lots of debt, and doubt that they are actually doing enough. Then there are the mother ******** who keep putting more on the shoulders and less responsibility on theirs. Not to mention the worthless ******** who continue to take advantage of systems that they probably shouldnt be in, and not even vote or read the paper to know that these same advantages that they enjoy could be fleeting. but heven help anyone who tells them that they should stop their facebook games for ten minutes and actually pay attention to the news. I do hope yer life gets less depressing, cause frankly, you are one of the few people i tolerate. wink Thanks. I have been feeling better lately. I really just need to chill and stop worrying over things that are out of my control. Wario Ware has been helping lately 3nodding
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:15 pm
deadmanjay rmcdra I'm creating a thread for anyone here to vent and let out frustrations. One of the common misconceptions about Christianity I've been hearing recently is that "being a Christian means you can't feel *such and such* emotion". We are human beings with a wide range of emotions and it's okay to feel. While it's not always in our best interest to act on them in certain ways we can at least express them and figure out ways to act on them in healthy ways. Hey, Ive been doing my part so much so that I am the king of all you little people. I dont know how much more logical I can make arguments against the little fallacy makers. I suppose i could try an approach ive never done before, but there has to be something in it for me. if nothing else, laugh that some of these people actually think that they beat me at something when their mental masturbation makes it seem like the body snatchers movie. "OMG, let me suck Dawkins like the Messiah we know him to be." Its one thing to be an areligious atheist, but to be an anti-religious, anti-theist angstheist is just so ******** sad. Well reasoned logic does not compute. Logic like using an invention of a Catholic priests to prove that science has disproven all deities let alone a creation deity to be stupid doesnt seem to make a dent. Hey I'm not blaming anyone here. This has been a thread I've thinking of starting for a while since Confessional is part of Christian tradition and there is therapeutic benefits for doing it. Outside factors actually pushed me to go ahead and to it instead of worrying that people (myself included) would be too embarrassed to post in such a thread.
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:12 pm
rmcdra deadmanjay rmcdra I'm creating a thread for anyone here to vent and let out frustrations. One of the common misconceptions about Christianity I've been hearing recently is that "being a Christian means you can't feel *such and such* emotion". We are human beings with a wide range of emotions and it's okay to feel. While it's not always in our best interest to act on them in certain ways we can at least express them and figure out ways to act on them in healthy ways. Hey, Ive been doing my part so much so that I am the king of all you little people. I dont know how much more logical I can make arguments against the little fallacy makers. I suppose i could try an approach ive never done before, but there has to be something in it for me. if nothing else, laugh that some of these people actually think that they beat me at something when their mental masturbation makes it seem like the body snatchers movie. "OMG, let me suck Dawkins like the Messiah we know him to be." Its one thing to be an areligious atheist, but to be an anti-religious, anti-theist angstheist is just so ******** sad. Well reasoned logic does not compute. Logic like using an invention of a Catholic priests to prove that science has disproven all deities let alone a creation deity to be stupid doesnt seem to make a dent. Hey I'm not blaming anyone here. This has been a thread I've thinking of starting for a while since Confessional is part of Christian tradition and there is therapeutic benefits for doing it. Outside factors actually pushed me to go ahead and to it instead of worrying that people (myself included) would be too embarrassed to post in such a thread. You should never let what others think of your musings to not post them. Unless your musings are full of shite and should be buried under the biggest boulder on the ******** planet. 3nodding
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:53 pm
deadmanjay You should never let what others think of your musings to not post them. Unless your musings are full of shite and should be buried under the biggest boulder on the ******** planet. 3nodding It's a public guild so it's open for anyone to see and comment. For some people that makes posting about personal stuff uncomfortable. I wish there was a way to make a thread private exclusively for active guild members here. While I'm on it. The thing I've been hearing recently, "Well I'm a pagan because Christianity is all about sweetness and niceness and funshine and rainbows. That stuff is not for me." What a crock of s**t. The whole mythos is centered around a guy who gets unjustly executed in a humiliating fashion. Where's the "funshine" in that? "Christians don't ever go into dark territory." Bullshit on that. Part of the process of salvation is diving into those dark areas and exposing them and then figuring out what to do with what is hidden. You think all that light dark duality is just about good and evil? Partially it is but it's mostly about truth/reason vs ignorance/hiding.
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:40 pm
rmcdra deadmanjay You should never let what others think of your musings to not post them. Unless your musings are full of shite and should be buried under the biggest boulder on the ******** planet. 3nodding It's a public guild so it's open for anyone to see and comment. For some people that makes posting about personal stuff uncomfortable. I wish there was a way to make a thread private exclusively for active guild members here. While I'm on it. The thing I've been hearing recently, "Well I'm a pagan because Christianity is all about sweetness and niceness and funshine and rainbows. That stuff is not for me." What a crock of s**t. The whole mythos is centered around a guy who gets unjustly executed in a humiliating fashion. Where's the "funshine" in that? "Christians don't ever go into dark territory." Bullshit on that. Part of the process of salvation is diving into those dark areas and exposing them and then figuring out what to do with what is hidden. You think all that light dark duality is just about good and evil? Partially it is but it's mostly about truth/reason vs ignorance/hiding. What the ******** type of pagans are they? Just about every religion has some sort of peace thing to it. Even LeVayan promotes peace and quiet by promoting an end to the ignorance of the self and those around them. What? Are they big proponents of the burning tymes?
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:02 am
deadmanjay What the ******** type of pagans are they? Just about every religion has some sort of peace thing to it. Even LeVayan promotes peace and quiet by promoting an end to the ignorance of the self and those around them. What? Are they big proponents of the burning tymes? The overall topic was sharing your practice with Christians. This was the response that set me off: Quote: It's well and nice to show others what you do - there are many beautiful things in Pagan religions - but my path is sometimes about not-nice things. It is strewn with blood and bone and sacrifice. There are dark spaces, as well as light, and I'm not going to favour one over the other. I think they are equally as important, and beautiful in their own ways. I'm well aware that makes some other religions nervous, unhappy, and disapproving. So be it. Just because their religions have internalized the good/evil - dark/light-order/chaos dichotomy introduced to the world via Zoroastrianism, doesn't mean mine has. They don't have to walk my path. I shouldn't have to make what I do seem innocent, harmless, love and light, just to mollify those who in the end have no authority to ask me to change. There was another one but I can't find it now. But seriously it's like they think Christians have to be mindless little robots that can't feel or explore deeper within themselves. Or at least that's the picture I've been seeing painted lately.
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:55 am
rmcdra deadmanjay What the ******** type of pagans are they? Just about every religion has some sort of peace thing to it. Even LeVayan promotes peace and quiet by promoting an end to the ignorance of the self and those around them. What? Are they big proponents of the burning tymes? The overall topic was sharing your practice with Christians. This was the response that set me off: Quote: It's well and nice to show others what you do - there are many beautiful things in Pagan religions - but my path is sometimes about not-nice things. It is strewn with blood and bone and sacrifice. There are dark spaces, as well as light, and I'm not going to favour one over the other. I think they are equally as important, and beautiful in their own ways. I'm well aware that makes some other religions nervous, unhappy, and disapproving. So be it. Just because their religions have internalized the good/evil - dark/light-order/chaos dichotomy introduced to the world via Zoroastrianism, doesn't mean mine has. They don't have to walk my path. I shouldn't have to make what I do seem innocent, harmless, love and light, just to mollify those who in the end have no authority to ask me to change. There was another one but I can't find it now. But seriously it's like they think Christians have to be mindless little robots that can't feel or explore deeper within themselves. Or at least that's the picture I've been seeing painted lately. Just putting my two cents in there, but if I were a betting man, I would say that the user above is rebelling against their Christian upbringing. Heck, if parents didn't force children to go to church at Christmas, we probably wouldn't have as many angstheists running around. Of course, there are a few self styled pagan and atheist users who think that by them claiming to be homosexual and non-Christian, it makes it logical for them to use Leviticus and other Old Testament things to try to belittle the Christians. One user that comes to mind that I have had many dealings with over the years is a hypocrite in her hatred of Christianity.
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 4:39 am
im getting sick and tired of being given crap by some christians because of my sexual orientation and im sick of people in the glbt community giving me crap because im christian. i dont know why on earth is such a big deal for me to like women and have faith in god at the same time.
@rmcdra
how old was the person? that sounds like the kind of response i hear from teenagers trying to sound deep and mysterious. also hating christianity is the cool thing to do it seems rolleyes
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 6:11 am
Shanna66 im getting sick and tired of being given crap by some christians because of my sexual orientation and im sick of people in the glbt community giving me crap because im christian. i dont know why on earth is such a big deal for me to like women and have faith in god at the same time. I'm sick of it too. You'd think that since the Episcopals, Lutherans, and (I'm starting to hear now) the Presbyterians are accepting gay/lesbian marriage and gay/lesbian clergy, that it would have been settled by now. There are some of the things I've noticed. Caring about you while having misunderstandings are the big ones especially, if these people are close to you. One side doesn't want to see you "sin" or "go to hell" while the other side might not want to see you "waste your time", "go through hardships", "support a 'hate group', etc. The other one is being unable to reconcile and recognize that there is no conflict and using this alleged conflict to define themselves and defend their bigotry. Quote: @rmcdra how old was the person? that sounds like the kind of response i hear from teenagers trying to sound deep and mysterious. Somewhere in their late 20s, early 30s. Quote: also hating christianity is the cool thing to do it seems rolleyes I try to keep apple and oranges in mind. What they are calling Christianity, is not what I practice though what I do is called by the same name. They left Christianity, so they gave up the right to tell me "I'm doin' it wrong". Why should I quit my religion over something that someone else was unable to reconcile? It's hard to do especially when I get into a depressive state, but it's what keeps me sane.
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