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I really expected Kerry to contest it. After all the Bush-hating hysteria, I thought Kerry's backers would be forcing him to contest...even contesting the 51% stare . I respect Kerry, didn't used to but now I do...but I always thought the lawyers would make this election a shamble.

But now Bush is in and my dreams are fulfilled ^_^ hopefully those who promised to move to Canada will now follow through

Our president's victory total exceeds the populations of both France and Great Britain. xd

P.S. Though Kerry is up to 55 million stare

- Stay hidden, go public, or go private?

Stay hidden. Shem makes it necessary.

- Stay hidden, go public, or go private?

Stay hidden (Too many outsiders and figures of authority who want to take us down).

because hes not important enough


i mean seriosuly who gives a s**t about a whiney aussie who thinks he can tell americans whats wrong with their country, when australia has its own problems, like its water flushing backwords, thats just weird they need to fix it

[In protests] a conservative crowd will typically stay fairly calm and civilized. A liberal crowd tends to get rowdier with time, and sometimes falls into less than legal activities....

I love watching Liberals get there[sic] a** kicked after getting to violent at a protest.

To quote Ann Coulter when asked if the War in Iraq is right:

Q: Is it right, the Iraqi conflict?

A: No, it's wrong. The rabid savages who are fighting American troops should give up immediately.

Your post sounds logical and I adore Ann Coulter. War is nessessary but it should only be considered when trying to mediate the situation has been unsuccessful. if it has then War has to be. Continually blaming Amerca for all the evils in the world only serves to further hatred and strife and also gets us nowhere. People are allowed to disagree with american policies and the government however if all it is is criticism and whining it then crosses the line over to Anti-Americanism.
The truth is they cant suggest something that wont whore America out or cause other countries to view America as weaker than they see it now.
Homeland security is a joke, and we arent supposed to defend ourselves when other countries hurt us? thats sick disturbed thinking.

Yes, lets put all the liberal whiners on the front lines as "human shield" please! They'd wet themselves shortly after.

Yup thats the Ketchup b***h

FUN FACTS ABOUT DEMOCRATS

* Democrats chose the donkey as their symbol because the Democrat base smells as bad as one and has the same verbal skills. In the donkey's defense, it's smart enough to understand a butterfly ballot.

* Democrats are big into class warfare. They also are for gun control which has caused the deadliest firearms to be too expensive except for the rich to buy. So, if class warfare ever goes to blows, it won't last long.

* Though there are more registered Democrats, they don't vote as much as Republicans percentage-wise because of their tendency to be distracted by shiny things.

* Democrats have lost most of the men's vote because they're a bunch of girlie men. Don't tell them that, though, because they'll cry.

* Democrats are always trying to get into your wallet to spend money on their wacky ideas. If you see a Democrat near your wallet, hit him on the head with a rolled up newspaper. You have to catch him in the act or he'll never learn.

* While the Democratic leadership is currently devoid of any real leadership or substance, they may try and make up for that with important-looking hair.

* Some Democrats may have served in Vietnam. You can find out which ones by seeing who tells you that fact over and over and over.

* And over and over and over.

* Many Democrats intensely hate Bush because it's easier than confronting the irrelevancy of their ideas. It�s funny to dump a bucket of cold water on them and hear them blame Haliburton.

* If your plagued by Democrats, they can be scared away with snakes, guns, or concepts of individual responsibility.

* Bill Clinton, who cost the Democrats their majorities in the House, Senate, and Governorships while he was president, is still venerated by Democrats because... uh... I guess they're just frick'n retards.

* Democrats will often visit maternity wards and shake their fists angrily at all those who escaped the wrath of choice.

* Democrats are secretly trying to destroy capitalism. If you see a Democrat near capitalism and looking suspicious, immediately report him to the police.

* In a fight between Democrats and Aquaman, Aquaman would be slurred by an NAACP ad that links him to lynching.

* The Democrats have built a giant statue in tribute to Michael Moore which eyes glow red, shoots fire out of its a**, and constantly demands tributes of ham.

* Or maybe that is just Michael Moore wearing a gray sweat suit. Whatever it is, don't let it fall on you because it's heavy.

* The foreign policy ideals of the Democrats involved waiting for the might France to approve anything they plan on doing. This should allow them to snap into action about the time half the earth is destroyed by radical Islamists.

* Every time someone votes for a Democrat, baby Jesus cries.

The conclusion is inescapable: that Kerry lied by reporting to the Navy that he had been wounded by shrapnel in his backside from an enemy mine when in reality he negligently wounded himself and then lied about the wound in order to secure a third Purple Heart and a quick trip home.

Most of the voters in California (read: urban liberals, who make up a large portion of the voters) are completely out of touch with reality. Another large chunk are hispanics who don't give a rat's arse about security.

i'm not even going to bother watching. I already know what there saying..."Bush sucks", "Were better"...you know all that bullS***....i'm justing going to wait till Fox News talks about it after wards.

I watched the DNC last night and I thought it was funny, now Al Gore is calm. I was watching fox of course and it was pretty interesting how Hilary and Bill were making their own version of the last twelve years up. Anyway did anyone see the NY heart Hilary signs? It was a all black crowd. (not being racist)

Mods can see the guild. Danjel will surley delete it and the links and everything. He does a hell of a job covering his tracks and the other mods scratch his a**.

Am I the only person who happened to notice that Danjel locked and cut loose the old election sticky where at the end Bush was recieving favorable posts, and replaced it with Shem's newer post in which naturally things weren't going nearly so well for Bush?

My husband and I were discussing John Kerry's so-called military record and got on the subject of the treatment of Vietnam vets upon returning home. My husband was a first-hand witness to the vile treatment those men got. They would come in at Travis AFB and then go into San Francisco to catch bus or train on home. Protestors would line the route armed with rotten fruit or feces, but the men and the police were told to do nothing. These men were treated worse than the most heinous felon.

Now, here's the real sickening part of the discussion. The whole reason for this inhumane treatment was the testimony before Congress of one John Kerry, describing atrocities (that later were found to be untrue), and claiming our soldiers to be monsters.

Yeah, my husband remembers John Kerry for the traitor he truly is, not the war hero he has remade himself into...of course, the left will not even face up to the fact that he was only in Vietnam for four months--went on his medal collecting spree, and went home.

Let's also not forget the POWs who were beaten senseless because of Kerry's testimony that they were war criminals.

Yes, the POWs were also part of the discussion. Between Kerry and Jane Fonda, we are fortunate those boys made it home, and even then no longer completely sane! The people responsible, namely Kerry and Fonda, should be begging those men for forgiveness, although some cannot bestow forgiveness since they are no longer with us. crying

And I can see him seriously putting the Navy Cross on his site. After all, the masses are blind enough to believe his lies, no matter how blatant.

Kerry's whole trip to Vietnam was a propaganda tour from day one. He was filming re-enactments of his escapades and collecting medals for scratches that he put in for, not his commanding officer. He spent four months setting himself up to be a hero later. What scum!! stressed

As far as I can tell, considering that I can't stand to listen to the man [John Kerry] and his whining voice, he has some serious deep-seated issues. I think he is delusional, and that he figures he's got it in the bag. He is building his campaign on a pack of lies, and I'm just waiting for his house of cards to come down!

Isn't it interesting that there are certain people on Gaia which will shrilly demand proof but when a right-leaning person demands accountabilty and proof they get slammed down for being "unfriendly"?

There is no rule "of" TOS on Gaia. Only rule "by" TOS.

GBW got banned by Danjel today for posting she would take Hitler over the UN any day. Figures.

1. Kerry will continue the effective strategy started by LBJ in which he sends thousand more troops to a war while saying how the war is wrong and we will not be able to win the war.
2. We need a man like Kerry as president for the war on terror. He will fight the terrorists with the skill and drive that only a self claimed war criminal could possess.

God forbid we actually regain control, eh?

I guess the left is really worried that they won't be able to realise their socialist hallucinations...

I've lurked a few times in EDP, but the liberal stink was the forum equivalent of urine. sad Baked in the sun...

That's not bipartisanship. That's crumbling. Civil Unions are merely a way to devalue marriage and legitimatize mental illness.

That limbodog guy, that ******** *****, he's getting on my nerves. =/

I don't know if he's actually a *****, but he is 31, so one can assume, right?

limbo's an idiot. Sometimes I think he's stalking me... sweatdrop

Right, because you're mentally stable. Go play in traffic.

I can tell you from personal experience that I would rather clean my entire house (2500 sq. ft.) with my tongue than have that person keep stalking me.

Hey, I PMd Lanzer and Arwen personally with big proofs of danjel's evilness, but they did NOTHING. Sere has also been up to stuff, but I don't know if anything's come of that either.

That little boy just wants to stay home and smoke his dope, and never have to be responsible for anything. It's rather depressing to think that my own son would gladly jump into the fray to do what he believes is right, while that pathetic little wimp would hide at home. Guess that's why us conservatives are so highly outnumbered...lost too many of our boys in Vietnam because they did their duty without question. I found his blathering insulting....

I'm even now giving danjel a chance to warn me. I'm fighting in the Louisiana gay marriage thread and doing sorta well. Which means that, since I'm fighting on my own, I'm eligible for a danjel alert lol

President Bush finally called Kerry by what he is...the most liberal member of the United States Congress! I'm so excited! *dances with random emoticon*

I saw a terrorist swing, heard the liberty bell ring,
I saw a zombie senator lie.
But I think I will have seen everything
When I see my elephant fly.

Go Bush ^_^

This tactic isn't anything new for the left-leaning hordes...they usually decide to leave right after they've been dealt a blow...if winning debates earned the two sides points...we'd have more even with our limited numbers. They are the Iraqi Army-more troops...we are the Americans-swifter movements, better equipment, and better training. I think it is a rare thing to find a topic when sabers have met and the Right has not been right.

Ran across something very interesting...

In one thread about the morale situation in Iraq, Shem claims to be in [redacted]:



Then he starts a thread about his ballot:

http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4105630

Made me stop and think...wonder which is correct...hmm...

Considering what he said in the ballot thread, he is here. No mistaking it...you want to verify it?

I'm convinced at this point...

Interesting...and how long will he be allowed to do that?

And that would back the theory that Danjel and Shem are one and the same...

It would matter because if they are, in fact, one and the same, we are still subject to the predations of Shem through Danjel. As I understand it, the guild is not hidden from moderators. Shem has proven his lack of scruples already...

And it would also mean that Danjel has a flamebait-mule who he can use without tarnishing the "reputation" he seems to think his main account has. Shem has already proven that he is basically immune to moderation. This latest piece in the puzzle simply makes too much sense to rule it out as a simple "conspiracy theory" as the naive tend to do.

This does make a great deal of sense...I wouldn't call it a slam dunk....but it is possible that Shem and danjel are the same person.

if we discover the truth about Angsty Jel...trouble would follow for the ruling class...(well probably just danjel). BTW as an oldbie I do find it interesting that danjel doesn't have a halo...it would have been -extremely- cheap for him to pick one up, but he didn't. This isn't conclusive proof...but it adds to the amount of evidence.

Rumors are abound that Democrats are going to cry conspiracy theory on the computer votes.

The audacity!

Yeah the minorites are leaving the Democrats plantations...Democrats treat minorities like idiots (except when running for re-election) and expect them to support them. I read somewhere that the Dems had whites hold up a sign that said "Blacks for Kerry"...or something like that...to simulate African Americans I guess. Anyway as far as amnesty goes...Bush mentioned that and a Mexican cacus said "Dude...we don't want that"...so maybe the libs are a dying breed...if they are...I say the world has enough slugs...leave liberals off the endangered species list.

Yee-haw! I bet the liberals will be crying to their therapists with this news!

That was one sick liberal. Some people take politics way to seriously.

[It was later discovered in the man's journal that he killed himself over a love triangle between himself, his fiancee, and another person. That it came to climax during the election season was coincidental.]

Hi guys, I have funny news. I felt conciliatory today and tried to suggest how the Democrats should change, because if they remain on their current path of liberal obstinance, they'll sink their own ship. I use a link the Democratic Leadership Council, where they discussed how to be more appealing to voters. The first post I get is kaophyre saying that centrism isn't the way to go...the path to victory is through becoming more liberal! I found that to be utterly looney. At least the old Clinton crowd is telling the DNC to change...if it was any other group, I'd have been lampooned for inciting. blaugh

Scary when the Clinton crowd is pushing for the DNC to move towards the center...at least they understood that the average American would not be impressed by true socialistic liberalism.

The fact that they are overlooking is that the pendulum of morals and values has swung further to the right, and they are not keeping up with the times. Even CA has become more conservative...I live in a pocket of conservativism just a few hours from Looney Central, i.e. San Flamingfrancisco, and the People's Republic of Berkeley, and there was quite a bit of support for the Prez...hardly any for Kerry.

I do believe quite strongly that the pendulum is swinging even further right because the people who are now new home owners, new parents, and the more politically active crowd are the tail end of the generation of children of the hippy generation--the "generation X" crowd. Many of those children, seeing the wreckage of their parents' lives, have decided to do things their own way and not follow their folks. The hedonistic lifestyle of their parents is not to their liking, and they are generally far more conservative as a result.

Im having a ton of fun this holiday season, Ive been turning all the radio dials to 770 in the mall and the nearby cosco as well as reorganzing all the books to make Coulter and O'reilly more visible.

Very interesting indeed! We need to kick Kofi Anan and his fat buddies out! After all, they might start being reasonable if they didn't have our money filling their coffers....

I think we should keep the United Nations around a little longer, even if it is only to humiliate them.

Of course, that's just the Patton who wants to see the U.N. completely stripped of all pretenses of legitimacy.

Meh, I changed my sig again... I shall now focus my sig efforts at attacking the United Nations. Anyone like?

signed

I frankly can't blame anyone for being disgusted with ED Politics. I frequently become disgusted about the way that subforum is handled.

I find myself more and more spending time in General Discussion because I find it less inhabited with outright liars such as danjel and kiironobara (the two on my s**t list right now, although danjel is pretty much a permenent member of said list).

I know exactly how you feel. I keep doing the same thing...I go in and start reading, get sick to my stomach, and leave. I'm usually here or in another guild that I mod for now...very rarely say anything in EDP.

And Kazuma is very right, no pun intended! This is our safe haven...which is why Shem's little furative activity a while back steamed me so badly...this is a place where we can find reasonable discussion with like-minded folks. When you are sick of EDP, you can always come back here...I don't think there's a one of us that minds...

You know, it occurs to me how utterly intolerant Danjel/Shem/Xialoi/Shaloi are. They dont seem to be able to stand anyone different than them. If you have different beliefs they argue and throw flames and insults. Its funny how Democrats (the ones in Gaia at least) are so against intolerance of minorities/gays/abortions/ yet when all is said and done. they cant tolerate us disagreeing with them.

But getting back to the point, during lunch break a few of my friends and I held an impromptu inaugural celebration. It's the first dixie cup of cheap wine I've ever had in my life. Why dixie cups? Why cheap wine? Because it doesn't matter how much glitz you have at a party...it's the feeling behind it that counts (am I correct or not?). And might I say, our little group had a jam!

It was the least we could do to say "Thank You" to President Bush and "Forget You" to the extreme left.

Well, that explains it...and here I was, hoping beyond hope that maybe one of our senators might have actually grown a brain and a conscience...but, alas, it is not to be.... xp

I read that Jimmy carter knew about the "Oil for food" if this is true how far back does this go??

The capacity. There is still strong evidence that the WMDs were transported out through Syria before the war, too.

If one could remember...

You know, way back to the beginning of this round of fighting, while we were still groveling in front of the United Nothing, we saw in video and in print, columns of trucks heading across the Syrian border.
Oh! But they were Russian trucks... so we could ignore those! And it was dropped. Nope! No WMD's there!
Hmmm... we know Sadam had them since there were tons of them inventoried in previous UN inspections... no record of thier destruction...hmmm... can't find them now... hmmm...the obvious conclusion... the logical conclusion... Sadam doesn't have any! No wait, lets project... he NEVER had them! Or so says the logic of the "lefties".

What's sad is, there are still going to be people insisting that the Iraqis are not interested in fighting the terrorists (or "insurgents" as the left likes to call them).

Liberals whine a lot at me.
Or try to insult me.
Me being Republican and all.
And they pout over the war.
And they pout over the election.
They just keep pouting.
They call everyone else in America stupid for not having the same views as them.

Weird, eh? Sounds like the liberals don't want a democracy. They just want a ruling party. Which is what they're complaining about since us Republicans sorta have that right now.

lol

DISCUSSION
DISCUSSION>Do you give two ******** about politics?

Some (many) liberals these days are so whipped up in a frenzy that they go over the top and act far less than intelligent. In these cases they are clearly wrong and need to be corrected. In those cases I have little qualms about being insulting in the process as long as I back it up with facts.

Actually, As the Star Trek franchise progressed, the storylines progressively became more steeped in realism. The liberal idealism of the United Federation of Panets found itself more and more having to deal with military conflict and challanges to its liberal idealism. Take DS9, one of my favorite ST worlds. The United Federation of Planets compromised its pacifist idealist solve-all-the-universes-problems-with-science-and-Liberal Institutionalism nature when forced to build purpose-built warships, such as the USS Defiant. The Defiant even compromised the legal principles of the Federation by being equiped with a cloaking device which was illegal for the Federation to operate...

Even the liberal idealist Star Trek was eventually forced to deal with the conservative realist world in the end. Even they couldn't hide from reality forever.

Gaia has taught me that Socialists, Communists, EUphiles, and those people who call themselves "liberal" but in actuality are just a warmed over versions of the previously mentioned, have a fear of The Economist magazine.

Therefore, if you meet one of these people in your travels through life, keep a copy of The Economist handy so you can roll it up and hit them soundly with it. wink

Felt like taking the initiative and post this as paper target for y'all to pounce on.

RED FORCE (oppostition) ARGUMENTS:
By invading and occupying Iraq, the coalition forces is effectively breaking down what delicate balance of power exists for that regions. The phrase "No man is an island" applies also to global politics in today's increasing interdependent world arena.

By invading Iraq, the coalition is in effect destroying two power balance that had allowed the world to stay in relative peace over the last few decades.

First point, the removal of saddam is a great upset of balance in the middle east region. Like it or not, the mostly secular Saddam is a permanent check on his more fundamentally minded neighbors. When he was removed from power, one can see an increased presence and surge in power for the islamic fundamentalists residing in Iraq. Shi'ite leader such as Muqtada Al Sadr forming a political/religious bond. Not to mention the relaxed border during the conflict allowed for fundamentalists from Iraq's neighboring countries to flood in amid the chaos. If the goal of the GWOT is truly on reducing the power and influence of terrorists.fundamentalist, haven't we in actuality created yet another battle ground for these who wish america ill? And the removal of the secular Saddam regime from power literally elimiates one of the theoratical fronts his fundamentalist neighbors envisioned facing?

Basing on the point mentioned above about islamic fundamentalists flooding and flourishing in Iraq, I would also like to point out that we have also created infinite oppurtunities for these men to do Americans harm. Namely, the american servicemembers who are in Iraq. Before the occupation, the US and it's people have a natural protection from these terrorists: Distance. Now we are literally delivering thousands of our citizens onto their doorstep where they needn't travel but a few miles to find an American to kill for their great jihad!

Point two, what the US did to invade Iraq drastically weakened it's international prestige, and threw a monkey wrench in the global balance of power. In the post cold war era, the balance of power between US and USSR has been replaced with US being the remaining superpower and a power vacumn of opposition that had no need to be filled. By taking such a drastic stance against it's traditional allies, US may have infact triggered a global demand for opposition against US policy. Now that US has flexed it's muscle as the sole superpower, I wouldn't doubt that many other nations are left with a distaste in their mouth. Now instead of working with the US, they may actively seek to shave US' power just to avoid a future incident like the Iraq war. This may give China a role as a viable alternative to US as both an economic and strategic partner for these countries.
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Ok, I need to stop there before I start vomitting on my keyboard. FIRE AWAY!

What you did was recreate exactly the kind of crackpot that most of us are too smart for. You know, the kind that is pointless to try to reason with, so we can't be bothered to d**k with them. [No one in the 'practice' thread has actually attempted to refute even the Red Force copy-paste, instead just wallowing in generic liberal-bashing.]

And another jewel from Mark Steyn.

So do we know who leaked quotes to be misconstrued out of our guild?

It makes me sad. I don't feel like I should go back to ED-POL.

Wouldnt it be funny if we never did? They would get bored so quickly, without anyone to yell at.

Don't know specifically outside of some former disgruntled members and lurking mules.

I don't think you should let this intimidate you or any one else from participating in EDP. Why let them have the satisfaction of chasing people off? Don't let these twits define the paradigm. We are ascendent in power politically, why should we back down from them on an anime discussion forum?

I know I'm pretty new here and my opinion probably don't mean squat...

But the way I'm taught, I'm told that when someone throw a punch at you, pay them back ten-fold.

I think I'll spend more time in the politic subforum from now on.

trsut me

we would do that, but this is an internet forum, we would just get banned, so unless you know how to hack (i think gaia may use linux, most servers do, i still got some source i stole from the orignal gaia if anyone is interested, but even thats a dumb idea)

to be brutaly honest, i would just ignore them, i made my case and most of the people on there are bigots themselves, i just dont see the point about getting all hyped up over nothing, thats hwy i choose to ignor the loser, let them puff and pout and hwine, just remember

we won the elctions, same in britain to

so why bother messing with these clowns?

Besides, you have to admit that some liberals bash Conservatives like that.. and others just call themselves 'liberals' when they're just "OMFG BuSH SUX!!!111"..

I saw your list and I dismayed at your efforts. Trying to form a list of the hateful and inane comments by conservatives on this forum without mentioning duowolf or Prettz? I am saddened.