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As an Inerrantist, I have often been told that I am teetering on the brink of apostate heresy because I refuse to accept a literalist interpretation of the scriptures. However, I wish people to understand that not only are the inerrantist and literalist positions not irrevocably tied together, but that they are in fact utterly contradictory to one another.

The first thing one must understand is that it possible for the story of Adam and Eve to be a metaphor. In fact, not only is it possibly metaphorical, but in point of fact it is necessarily metaphorical - else God is a liar, the Bible is false and Christianity as a whole becomes little more than a broken structure built on an errant foundation.

To begin with, let us take the verse most often used by Christians to argue for a literal interpretation of Genesis:

Romans 5:12-14 (NASB)
Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned - for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the likeness of the offense of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come.


Creationists often use verse 12 to argue that Genesis must be a literal accounting of God's creation of the universe, because otherwise Christ's death on the cross was in vain. They argue that if there was death in the world prior to the Fall of Man, then Romans 5:12 is a lie and the basis for man's essential need for regeneration through Christ's sacrifice is unecessary.

The problem with that is that a literal reading of Genesis requires us to take God's words to Adam literally:

Genesis 2:16-17 (NASB)
The LORD God commanded the man, saying, "From any tree of the garden you may eat freely; but from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat from it you will surely die."


And yet Adam and Eve did not die in the day they ate of the fruit. At least, not physically. And therein lies the key - a literal reading of the scriptures requires God to either be a liar in Romans, or a liar in Genesis.
On the other hand, approaching Genesis as metaphor allows us to see that the death of man that God speaks of in both Romans and Genesis is not a physical death, but a spiritual one. That when a man disobeys God, he sins. And when he sins, he dies spiritually.

After all, didn't Jesus Christ himself use rebirth as an analogy for regenerative faith? (John 3:1-7) And Paul claims in Romans 6 that we are dead to sin and reborn through Christ. Neither Paul nor Jesus was speaking of literal life and death here - they are speaking in metaphors.

To attempt to force a literal interpretation of the Genesis creation story onto scripture is to ignore the historical use of metaphorical structure throughout the Judeo-Christian scriptures as well as forcing God into a box devised by human minds.
Such small-minded thinking does not do God or the Scriptures the justice they deserve.
I see your points, I myself have similar points to you regarding literally interpreting it - I am not a Christian and view the Bible literally. The question that bugs me, is that if it is a literal account, then why would God want to prevent knowledge of good and evil - truely free agents require to be able to make their choices as informed as possible - actually to know if they are going against something. Also the fact that if God is all knowing (omniscient) then he would already of known that Adam would have falling 'for it' and thus punishing Adam for something he couldn't know - also he would have had not idea of good and evil. It rather suggests that either: a) The Christian God does not exist b) it is metaphorical with all its contradictions c) it has been invented. If it is b) then this rather begs the question, well which parts of the Bible are you meant to take seriously? Simply because they could all be metaphorical, or all literal etc. The writer(s) oF Genesis can also have different motives - this is where I really wish I was there at the time! I could go into more detail, but time is not on my side.
The story of Genesis is actually a myth that is explaining realities in life. There isn't literally an Adam and Eve, but there is a first man and woman. We cannot say that there is only a couple that gave birth to different kinds of nationalities, but a couple for each. (However, the ecolution theory may be applied to explain that one couple can satisfy the event of how differently we look today).
[quote="Rubiakatonbo"]The question that bugs me, is that if it is a literal account, then why would God want to prevent knowledge of good and evil - truely free agents require to be able to make their choices as informed as possible - actually to know if they are going against something. Also the fact that if God is all knowing (omniscient) then he would already of known that Adam would have falling 'for it' and thus punishing Adam for something he couldn't know - also he would have had not idea of good and evil.[/quote] True if God is all knowing then he "COULD" have seen what Adam would have done. However, we're free moral agents - we have free will. Would that be true if God chose to look into our personal future and then act upon what he saw? No, then we'd be nothing more then robots. Does a person with a great voice have no choice but to sing all the time, or does a body builder go around lifting everything in sight? No, because they have control over their power and attributes. God has control over his ability to see into the future, and chooses not to see what we will do - therefore actually giving us free will. Our existance would be meaningless if God's foresight meant we all had destiny. We'd be nothing but a mathmatical equation that's already been solved.

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God should read Spiderman comics, with great power comes great responsibility and all.

On topic, I don't think it should all be taken literally. I don't really have much, if any, grounding to say though.
I still am taking it literally, Gendou.
Dude, spiritual death is a literal death in God's eyes. If one dies spiritually or is dead spiritually, they are dead in God's eyes. That's why Jesus died on the cross: so creation could be ressurrected.

Also, the introduction of sin in the world introduced the "life has stopped" death. Nothing would have died until sin came into the world. After they ate from the tree, they died spiritually, and were sentenced to eventually die physically.
I see it as a methpor. It doent ecatly go but what sciencist say happened. But its kinda cool that dead guys figured it out to a point.
Gendou
To attempt to force a literal interpretation of the Genesis creation story onto scripture is to ignore the historical use of metaphorical structure throughout the Judeo-Christian scriptures as well as forcing God into a box devised by human minds.
Such small-minded thinking does not do God or the Scriptures the justice they deserve.


Well, it wouldn't be the first time.

In fact, it's such common practice that I don't see how you can use it as an argument against anything without ripping away the basis for your own argument.
It's not really about "dead guys figuring it out". "All scriptures are inspired" as the bible says. The Biblical writers were "inspired" throught God to write what they wrote.
Fallen_Leaf
It's not really about "dead guys figuring it out". "All scriptures are inspired" as the bible says. The Biblical writers were "inspired" throught God to write what they wrote.


Psst. Don't make claims you can't objectively back up.

You can't counter the claim "some dead guys figured it out" (which isn't all that smart anyways) with "OMG NO THE BIBLE SAYS NOT!!!".
[quote="Sinner"][quote="Gendou"]To attempt to force a literal interpretation of the Genesis creation story onto scripture is to ignore the historical use of metaphorical structure throughout the Judeo-Christian scriptures as well as forcing God into a box devised by human minds. Such small-minded thinking does not do God or the Scriptures the justice they deserve.[/quote] Well, it wouldn't be the first time. In fact, it's such common practice that I don't see how you can use it as an argument against anything without ripping away the basis for your own argument.[/quote] lol good point.
Fallen_Leaf
lol good point.


You know, if you actually understood the implications that my point had, then I doubt you'd agree with it so readily.
Another possibility as to what is meant by "death" is that their cells began to degenerate and die. Not only would this lead to their eventual death, but a new difficulty in keeping themselves fed. What was once seen as a lush garden quickly becomes the wasteland described in Genesis 3:17-19 when you suddenly have to feed on organic matter to keep your decaying form moving around and thinking.
Rutz
The story of Genesis is actually a myth that is explaining realities in life. There isn't literally an Adam and Eve, but there is a first man and woman. We cannot say that there is only a couple that gave birth to different kinds of nationalities, but a couple for each. (However, the ecolution theory may be applied to explain that one couple can satisfy the event of how differently we look today).
haveing grown up in church, i have to dissagreee. i believe that therre was an adam and an eve. but ur entiteled to ur opinion

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