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Inflators in Anti-Inflation Guilds
((Had to move it off the GD. People can't read.))

Let me place it first in some context. I allowed an inflator go in to an Anti-Inflation Guild named AIR. I am disturbed at the lack of cognizance and ability to read through the surface of most. Especially the ones who are loudest in their complaints who do not do anything to begin with.

First, I rather call them out and see exactly what they are doing to help things to begin with. Next, I have to establish my reasons for allowing someone like that in.
Citing my post here, I must state first and foremost that within anti-inflation guilds there will always be spy inflators. I've acknowledged that fact and in a sense am using it instead.

I rather have an inflator step in to that guild and contribute to the discussion. In doing so it allows me and the others to see what they think and adjust our programs and projects accordingly. It allows us to be more dynamic. Hence we have a few projects in the wings already planned out, while also doing an information campaign. One of which would be this one. Check the second post.

In the end, am I a true anti-inflationist? I doubt it, I can establish the fact that inflation can be a good thing. What I do not like is that I can not trust that the one I sell to when I attach conditions to my sale would not screw me over and would not be grateful about it. I am a sucker for lost causes and it is unfortunately tilted in one direction. The odds are stacked against anti-inflationists. So, I help out.. Besides, gaia is supposed to be fun. Everything I do has to be for ME. My Enjoyment, else gaia loses its interest and I leave, taking away from the market and sales the items I have stored.

My deal has always been more in making people work for the sale price I am giving them. I mean, I tried to sell a December 03 for 40K in December in the exchange, my method of pricing is that the harder my conditions are the greater the reward. That is where I take my fun from.

I got out of topic, my apologies. In regards to DS(name shortened), who is a self-professed inflator. Yes, I let him in to AIR. Why? My reasons are simple. He came in without pretensions of being an anti-inflator, he contributes to the discussion rather than staying in the background. In that sense, he has contributed more to the cause of anti-inflation than whiny idiots around that b***h about prices and do nothing about it. Do I condone what he does? Of course not, it is absolutely hypocritical to the values he purportedly has. But will I attack him for it? Not worth it, I rather see where he goes off next and make plans accordingly.

So tell me, what have you done(those that whine and b***h about inflation without action)? I have projects that I am willing to fund but do not have time to do or to maintain. I already have too many projects I am involved in at the moment to begin with, one of which is a link I placed here earlier. The others have my mark but will not bear my name in it. I like being in the side-lines, but this, this is insulting. How people could not think beyond the surface and see the merits of keeping close an enemy/problem that is named. It is insulting when people imagine I might not have realised who he is.

Yes, I want a discussion. That is how ideas can be refined and projects can be implemented. Good day.

((Note: My gripe is not about the anti-inflation/inflation war. My gripe is that people can not seem to digest the thought that it is best to be able to talk to an opposing view.))

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Projects?

I think it's downright sad that the pixelated items that made Gaia so much fun is now a war-zone.

I'm a college kid. My projects consist of going to class, doing my crazy homework, writing papers and planning my future. I also have friends, a boyfriend, a mother with whom I'm all close to and with whom I try to spend time.

I feel that I SHOULDN'T have to battle against inflationists and would actually like the admins to tell me exactly why they've allowed it to continue without a ban.

In fact, if this continues and Gaia ends up being something I have to work on EVERYDAY just to keep up with the inflation (as the past Easter Event has shown), I won't be ABLE to stay on Gaia and my pretty little donation items from mid-04 are going down with me.

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Wow... just... a long read..

I sometimes feel like gaia isnt as "a game" as much as it used to be. Like Princess neko said, its like a war-zone now. People shouldnt have to put up to this and battle each other like it's halo or something. It's a community, not a war.

but, yea, I think you are a true anti-inflationist Zeezee, and I'm sure a lot of people support what you and others are doing to help battle inflation.
Very much agreed. That is pretty much also one of the reasons it is best to have a true discussion even with inflators. I have nothing really to work for around gaia.

My goal has always been to slow people down so they talk rather than have to always work for items. Which is reflected upon my sales.

I have a problem with those who do not think beyond the surface for the reasons why someone such as I would allow someone like an inflator to go in to an anti-inflation guild.

It is quite sad, which is why I have a problem with those that whine and b***h about things without really contributing much to a discussion. To refine an idea is key.
PrincessNeko
In fact, if this continues and Gaia ends up being something I have to work on EVERYDAY just to keep up with the inflation (as the past Easter Event has shown), I won't be ABLE to stay on Gaia and my pretty little donation items from mid-04 are going down with me.
I could not agree more.

Thank you for your input.

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Most people don't realize Gaia is a hobby, much like a game. The 'war-zone' as you call it, keeps its inteesting in some sense. Its comes with every community/forum. You have people you have issues, they discuss those issues, and in the end very few are solved. It is the nature of all things.

People whine and complain. As they always do. Whether it be in real life or online. The only difference is, you can't see them here unless you have a web cam and the items just happen to be pixels. Same basic premise, different place, different things.
Agreed.
My gripe however was not the anti-inflation/inflation war. My gripe is that people can not seem to digest the thought that it is best to be able to talk to an opposing view.

Dapper Genius

I understand, I was only replying to the other posts.

I don't really have a gripe about the inflation. Things will always inflate when they are something ALOT of people want.

Basically Put: You have millions of Gaians. You have so many people who purchase donation items online. That equals inflation then said items happen to be popular and not enough donators purchase items. The best way to solve the problem is make the items worthless. how do you do that? but getting a large number of people to spend a large number of money on donation letters and flood the market with them. This will force prices down and kill the inflators. However, organizing that is difficult.

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People going to war on Gaia ia no newer to Gaia than inflation itself. Inflation is merely a readjustment of prices to compensate for an increasing supply of gold.

I do not consider myself an inflationist despite causing the BBT to spike to 10 million once. I am a questor and an exchanger, and I feel I can be that without being dubbed an 'inflator'.
i dont wanna make acomment on it but that was a
BLOODY GOOD READ!

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Veled
People going to war on Gaia ia no newer to Gaia than inflation itself. Inflation is merely a readjustment of prices to compensate for an increasing supply of gold.

I do not consider myself an inflationist despite causing the BBT to spike to 10 million once. I am a questor and an exchanger, and I feel I can be that without being dubbed an 'inflator'.


Agreed! I am also an Exchanger! I simply do not want to be dubbed an inflator. I ride the waves, I do not cause them. I onlt take advantage of working the market.

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And xyzse, if I had the free time, I WOULD much like to help, but as the case is...

Ms. Kaioh, sure, Gaia is a hobby for many. If a war-zone is necessary to keep people interested for whatever reason. That's fine. But keep it to themselves. That's what RPs are for. Hell, if it's that bad, there's World of Warcraft. If they want to take it to economy warfare, play rollercoaster tycoon or some other similar game.

Gaia is many other things. Inflation affects everyone. Meddling with that forces all of Gaia to change.

Besides, Gaia technically isn't a game. It's mainly a forum. The games are separated from the forum.
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Veled - Point taken. I do not consider myself an anti-inflator either. I derive fun from gaia. Which is why when I do make sales I attach conditions to them.

Haruka - That would be fun as well. However that is not quite true, there will always be a demand on that base product. What will bring down prices for something like a "Sealed" letter would be if the item of that month was a piece of cr.p... Something in the lines of how hideous those Monkey and Bear PJs were back then. Sealed letters have always been a risk. Once can get sizeable gains from that as an investment or lose quite a bit.

Me, I am just around for fun.
PrincessNeko
And xyzse, if I had the free time, I WOULD much like to help, but as the case is...

Ms. Kaioh, sure, Gaia is a hobby for many. If a war-zone is necessary to keep people interested for whatever reason. That's fine. But keep it to themselves. That's what RPs are for. Hell, if it's that bad, there's World of Warcraft. If they want to take it to economy warfare, play rollercoaster tycoon or some other similar game.

Gaia is many other things. Inflation affects everyone. Meddling with that forces all of Gaia to change.

Besides, Gaia technically isn't a game. It's mainly a forum. The games are separated from the forum.
Not a problem. There are many that b***h and whine but cause the problems themselves.

In the end my primary concern for myself is the fact that I can't trust the person I am selling to, to keep to the terms of the conditions I sell for. My goal is really to have people slow down and have fun, rather than trying to screw each other out of some digital item.
Yeah, I really don't think it's fair for someone to have to constantly run after that Nitemare Scarf or Demon Horns they want really badly, because of the ruthless marketplace hounds pushing the price up every few days. But I don't think it's fair for that someone to have to listen to others whine and b***h rather than try to do something about it. The only people who can solve this conflict are the admins, except they're just ignoring the situation. The conflict of the marketplace will probably go on until the end of time.

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And xyzse, if I had the free time, I WOULD much like to help, but as the case is...

Ms. Kaioh, sure, Gaia is a hobby for many. If a war-zone is necessary to keep people interested for whatever reason. That's fine. But keep it to themselves. That's what RPs are for. Hell, if it's that bad, there's World of Warcraft. If they want to take it to economy warfare, play rollercoaster tycoon or some other similar game.

Gaia is many other things. Inflation affects everyone. Meddling with that forces all of Gaia to change.

Besides, Gaia technically isn't a game. It's mainly a forum. The games are separated from the forum.


Miss Neko,

I was merely comparing it to a game without really saying as much. I'm sorry to be confusuing in that sense.

I was just saying alot of forums are alike in that you always have people who start something. I prefer to stay out of the war, to be honest, but I commend those who fight inflation. To me a gold is a gold. Whether it be 5 gold or 100. Its all the same. I don't care about having the gold, it fake really, to me, I simply wish to be able to work the market and gain from it. It is however sad that it has to inflate so much for people to be able to afford other items.

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