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A rant geared for a different audience.

There are a number of people that are outspoken against 4kid's Entertainment's detractors, many of which are also supporters of people that don't like anime stating their opinion. They parade around chanting, "people are entitled to their own opinion," but when presented with people that dislike 4kids, some of them act like whiny 10 year old girls, especially when it is intelligent people that dislike 4kids. So why is one group of people more entitled to their opinion than another?

"If you don't the dub for Tokyo Mew Mew/Naruto/One Piece, go buy the DVDs!" The DVDs aren't out yet. Duh. Many people are upset over how slow the DVDs for Shaman King and YuGiOh are being released, and they don't even have subtitles, just a Japanese language track and close captioning.

"What's wrong with Naruto's dub voice, it's just as whiny as his Japanese voice." Two voices may share similar qualities, but it's impossible for them to be exactly the same, especially when they are speaking completely different languages. Some people may be hearing different qualities in the voice than you; I'm sure you've all been in a situation when you thought a person resembled another person, but someone else disagreed with you.

"Removing _____, _______ and ________ doesn't change the story." There are more elements than plot to any work of fiction. Any time any edit, no matter how small is added, it changes the way the work of fiction is perceived. That's not to say some edits aren't necessary to be geared for the same audience they were originally intended for, but it will undoubtedly, change people's impression of it.
Also, it's amusing when 4kid's supporters who say this are faced with examples of major story changes they did make.

"What happened to just being glad anime was on television at all?" There have always been people that have been upset over major changes made to anime, it's just the numbers are different.

"You're not a kid so it doesn't matter what you think!" You can't stop people from having opinions. People form them every time they come in contact with them, and you can't stop them from expressing them.

There are plenty of n00bs that spam the forum with their flames against 4kids, that doesn't been all people that dislike 4kids are unwashed n00bs. There are plenty of Inuyasha fans that are spammers and n00bs, but I've never heard someone be insulted by this group just because they like it.

Please note that Naruto is not dubbed by 4kids (it's Shopro people, Shopro,) but it was included because it's dubs detractors are often countered by the same group of people that support 4kids.

If you post s**t like "kill 4kids," I will report you for spamming.

I know that we could by dvds, and i think it is idotic when people accuse Nruto being dubbed by 4kids, but i just think even though we can buy the DVDs that it is the principle tha they ussually dub and make it look bad. I myself dont mind when they dub out the blood and stuff but when they editit the storyline they gone to far!

Mmm. I like this thread. It gives me a nice, warm, tolerant feeling.

Like it? Great!

Don't like it? Do something else. Or wait for a DVD. Or start a petition. Or sign an existing petition. Or bake a pie. Or whatever works for you.

Here it is plain and simple...
The reason something gets editied or dubbed is for this reason alone...
Target Audience.
What does this have to do with Anime? Nothing, it has everything to do with Anime Merchadising and Commercial advertising. It is the job of a TV/Cable station to make money... Period. To do that they market the Shows and Sell space during those shows for advertisments.
Editing Blood, Gore, Language makes for a larger target audience therefore more advertising...
If a show makes enough money then the Cable/TV Network buy more of that type of show. This makes it more likely for an anime series to be released here in the states.

i dont mind the Narut dub at all they did a good job.

I know what he wrote was hard to read, but he said that he didn't mind being blood being edited, as long as they don't make changes to the story.

i remember when i had to call a special number just to order a subtitled, Ghost in the Shell,Akira,Black Magic 666, and Apple Seed. when anime became mainstream and sold in any video store it was a godsend. kids today are just spoiled and they dont appreciate anything. i mean who complains about something seen on basic cable and broadcast television? its not like you are paying for it.